23-06-2002 02:47									#1
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Anybody think Natural disasters like in simcity would be cool? Just to spice things up a little!

	23-06-2002 02:57									#2
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In Civ 1 there was occasional "Floods strike Rome! Houses washed away. Citizens demand city walls.","Fire sweeps through Rome! temple destroyed. citizens demand aqueduct." or "Volcano erupts near Rome! Citizens flee in terror. Citizens demand temple."
What happened to those? Only thing left is disease.
Citizens demand random events!

	23-06-2002 03:35									#3
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I wouldn't mind having natural disasters as an option in the game. It's something that I do miss from Civ I.

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	23-06-2002 03:37									#4
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lol, in simcity if i ever got bored, i'd save my game, sound the alarm (if i felt nice) then set off loads of disasters!

	23-06-2002 03:51									#5
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agreed.

	23-06-2002 05:45									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Ignorance In Civ 1 there was occasional "Floods strike Rome! Houses washed away. Citizens demand city walls.","Fire sweeps through Rome! temple destroyed. citizens demand aqueduct." or "Volcano erupts near Rome! Citizens flee in terror. Citizens demand temple." What happened to those? Only thing left is disease. Citizens demand random events!

hi ,

yes the could have brought that in the game , with more details , example , a nearby mountain would go off every 1000 years , and go back to sleep after a couple of turns , afer destroying all the improvements in a 9 tile radius , ....

or a tidal wave could come from the sea, same thing , ...

it would make the game more intresting , ...

a fire could rage true the city , the only way to prevent it would be to build a fire-station or so , ...

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	23-06-2002 06:04									#7
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I wouldn't mind having the option for disasters, but I'd certainly turn it off at all times. I don't think there's room for it in Civ3. But that's just me.

	23-06-2002 07:08									#8
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quote: Originally posted by panag yes the could have brought that in the game , with more details , example , a nearby mountain would go off every 1000 years , and go back to sleep after a couple of turns , afer destroying all the improvements in a 9 tile radius , ....

Good idea! I like the fact that it is recurring, so you can prepare. Maybe it should have a resource associated with it.

	23-06-2002 17:16									#9
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What would be the point of volcano erupting if you'd know when it's going to happen?
The danger from volcanoes in real life comes mostly from their unpredictability.

	23-06-2002 17:30									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Ignorance What would be the point of volcano erupting if you'd know when it's going to happen? The danger from volcanoes in real life comes mostly from their unpredictability.

You wouldn't know when it was going to erupt -- maybe just once every few hundred years. And like real life, there are strong incentives to use the land around the volcano in the meantime.

	23-06-2002 18:15									#11
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he said nothing about every 1000years on the dot! and how can you prepare, cept for moving a worker out of the way or some other unit!
You could have a geoligist unit who can work out when its gunna happen and in the future, stop it! (stop it could mearly make longer intivals in the middle, but of an unknown amount of time!).

	24-06-2002 00:10									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Ignorance What would be the point of volcano erupting if you'd know when it's going to happen? The danger from volcanoes in real life comes mostly from their unpredictability.

hi ,

of course this would be ine the old days , by the year X , and tech Y we should have an advance , ....

and get a warning , ...

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	24-06-2002 00:21									#13
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If you'd like to 'test drive' natural disarsters, you should try playing SMAC with random events on.

I imagine after being meteored, flooded by global warming and volcanoed a few times, you'll enjoy coming back to Civ3 which has none of that.

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quote: Originally posted by Qilue If you'd like to 'test drive' natural disarsters, you should try playing SMAC with random events on. I imagine after being meteored, flooded by global warming and volcanoed a few times, you'll enjoy coming back to Civ3 which has none of that.

hi ,

no SMAC , it has to improved , ......the whole way , ....

it is not ment to spoil the fun , just to add more , ....

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	24-06-2002 01:15									#15
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Ya, it makes it more interesting when you are killing all the other civs and your main city gets obliterated by a meteor and the world economy goes to crap.

Really adds a lot, i think.

	24-06-2002 01:18									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Reptilicus Ya, it makes it more interesting when you are killing all the other civs and your main city gets obliterated by a meteor and the world economy goes to crap. Really adds a lot, i think.

hi ,

with in limits is the goal of course , ......

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	24-06-2002 19:12									#17
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this is something i really expected to see in civ3. after all, it was in smac, and it seemed to work there, atleast for me. of course it would be an option, for all those wimps out there who couldnt deal with it

	24-06-2002 21:13									#18
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when it hits the water it could cause a tidal wave!

	24-06-2002 21:28									#19
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quote: Originally posted by HazieDaVampire when it hits the water it could cause a tidal wave!

hi ,

yes , and when it hits land it should move inland , one or two squares , and destroy a mix of roads and other improvements , .....

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	24-06-2002 21:42									#20
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There could also be forest fires that would have to be contained by workers, otherwise they would destroy improvements and even threaten cities. Then there are of course hurricanes and tornados, but if those disasters would be implemented they would have to keep them in their natural habitats. That is to say near the equatore ( donīt know how it is written). Of course in order to implement these thing they would have to make the game a whole lot more complex, a weather system.

	24-06-2002 21:57									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Papa Chubby There could also be forest fires that would have to be contained by workers, otherwise they would destroy improvements and even threaten cities. Then there are of course hurricanes and tornados, but if those disasters would be implemented they would have to keep them in their natural habitats. That is to say near the equatore ( donīt know how it is written). Of course in order to implement these thing they would have to make the game a whole lot more complex, a weather system.

hi ,

they could put a whole range of natural disasters in the game , ......

now the real question is , will they do so , ....

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	25-06-2002 03:38									#22
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natural disasters would be a great addition. imagine stomping on all your opponents only to find your best cities flooded so that now your opponents have a chance to catch up.

	25-06-2002 03:51									#23
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quote: Originally posted by ALPHA WOLF 64 natural disasters would be a great addition. imagine stomping on all your opponents only to find your best cities flooded so that now your opponents have a chance to catch up.

hi ,

well , what about a nuke , going of , in front of the coast line , creating a tidal-wave , .....

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	25-06-2002 04:16									#24
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I rather destroy the city, not the improvements.

Every option adds to the game, even if I'd keep this one off.

	25-06-2002 20:29									#25
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Craters created by mountains and hills would be pritty cool! Coral reafs could be wiped out (neaby sea squares change to ocean squares). Any other nice things to destroy?

	25-06-2002 23:39									#26
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Some fun disasters (not fun in real life)

I think all the destructive ones should kill one or two pop points and have a chance of destroying one random improvement.

Hurricaines (coastal cities)
Tornados (open spaces cities)
Forest Fires (forest tiles)
Earthquakes (along fault lines which can be put into the map)
Drought (each tile making 2 or more food makes one less for 3 or 4 turns... any tile)
Floods (rivers)
Volcanoes (mountains... but especially along fault lines)
Avalanches (snow capped mountains)
City Fires (any city)
Windstorm (desert)
Rock Slides (hills or mountains)

Size 1 or 2 size towns could be wiped out and anything bigger is safe from total destruction.

Maybe a 1-5% chance that any disaster could be an "Ultimate Disaster" that could destroy 2 or 3 times as much.

There could be a tech like "Modern Architecture" which would reduce the likleyhood that these disasters destroy buildings. The population should always have the same risk though (no technology will save you if you're caught out in a hurricaine without shelter). Added improvements like a firehouse would be welcome and would halve the chance of destruction from a city fire.

Frequency could be selected at the start of the game... Happy Planet, Content Planet, Restless Planet, Angry Planet.

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	26-06-2002 00:35									#27
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I live on a happy planet!

Sorry, can't say that with a straight face.

	26-06-2002 01:36									#28
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quote: Originally posted by dunk999 Some fun disasters (not fun in real life) I think all the destructive ones should kill one or two pop points and have a chance of destroying one random improvement. Hurricaines (coastal cities) Tornados (open spaces cities) Forest Fires (forest tiles) Earthquakes (along fault lines which can be put into the map) Drought (each tile making 2 or more food makes one less for 3 or 4 turns... any tile) Floods (rivers) Volcanoes (mountains... but especially along fault lines) Avalanches (snow capped mountains) City Fires (any city) Windstorm (desert) Rock Slides (hills or mountains) Size 1 or 2 size towns could be wiped out and anything bigger is safe from total destruction. Maybe a 1-5% chance that any disaster could be an "Ultimate Disaster" that could destroy 2 or 3 times as much. There could be a tech like "Modern Architecture" which would reduce the likleyhood that these disasters destroy buildings. The population should always have the same risk though (no technology will save you if you're caught out in a hurricaine without shelter). Added improvements like a firehouse would be welcome and would halve the chance of destruction from a city fire. Frequency could be selected at the start of the game... Happy Planet, Content Planet, Restless Planet, Angry Planet.

hi ,

, very good , and the idea of building certain buildings would be great to , they would serve just for the disaster's , or to protect against a bombing run , like the firestation , the damage would be a bit less , or against a spy , putting a fire in a city , ...

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	26-06-2002 02:00									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Christantine The Great I live on a happy planet! Sorry, can't say that with a straight face.

Touchet!

It is pretty funny.

	26-06-2002 02:04									#30
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , , very good , and the idea of building certain buildings would be great to , they would serve just for the disaster's , or to protect against a bombing run , like the firestation , the damage would be a bit less , or against a spy , putting a fire in a city , ... have a nice day

Good idea about the spy. Makes me think of a Far Side cartoon. There's two cows sitting in a stable outside Chicago circa "Great Chicago Fire" time. The city is ablaze and one of the cows says, "Looks like agent 02843 accomplished her mission."



And you have a nice day as well.