29-06-2002 23:55									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Dalgetti blackice , I agree. There would be a huge outrage, if it would be other way around, and this is wrong.

this reminds me of the few times i watched BET (Black Entertainment Channel) with some friends.

Black (African American if you wish) Comedians get on stage and many of them just flat out make fun of white people.

God forbid we reverse the rolls, as civil rights activists and their kin would be down our throats in seconds.

	30-06-2002 00:00									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin I got slapped across the face last night.

Well it's really not acceptable whatsoever, and anyone who tried to do that to me like that would get one hell of a shouting at.

	30-06-2002 00:01									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin I got slapped across the face last night.

And you took that? Feh.

	30-06-2002 00:09									#34
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Ford recently pulled their advert for the Focus which featured a woman shoving a store attendant into the trunk of the vehicle as he unloaded her shopping cart for her....

I suspect (rightly or wrongly) we will not be seeing this beer ad much longer.

	30-06-2002 00:11									#35
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper And you took that? Feh.

It was extremely amusing actually.

	30-06-2002 00:30									#36
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Well, if you're into that kind of kink, be my guest!

The one time a drunk bimbo tried to slap me around in a bar she ended up regretting it.

	30-06-2002 00:53									#37
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Blackice has got this one right.

Violence has it's place in TV/movies, and it usually done in a context. It is even ok to portray domestic violence in certain circumstances, usually in which the abuser is demonized-- but domestic vioence is not portrayed in lighthearted beer commercials. It would not be acceptable to show in a similar commercial guys slapping their girlfriends, and so this commercial should also be unacceptable.

	30-06-2002 01:23									#38
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I'm for nerve stapling.

	30-06-2002 01:46									#39
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX this reminds me of the few times i watched BET (Black Entertainment Channel) with some friends. Black (African American if you wish) Comedians get on stage and many of them just flat out make fun of white people. God forbid we reverse the rolls, as civil rights activists and their kin would be down our throats in seconds.

I don't know what you watch, but I've seen comedians of all colours making racist jokes on TV.


As for the people who are saying this should be banned - why don't you feel the same way about all other violence in TV, Movies, and Video games? It's not ok to have a woman slap a man in a bear commercial, but it's ok to have people massacring each other in cartoons and video games?

I think you guys are just upset that this bear commercial doesn't have a bunch of scantily clad women like they usually do.

	30-06-2002 03:59									#40
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quote: Originally posted by moominparatrooper Well, if you're into that kind of kink, be my guest!

Nothing like a bit of slap and tickle.

	30-06-2002 04:13									#41
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quote: Please acknowledge immediately your action to terminate this ad or I will proceed with legal action against you.

*shakes head*
what has the world come to

	30-06-2002 04:19									#42
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Have to say, I find this commecial inappropriate, too.

My perspective is a wee bit different, but I have two friends, one male and one female, who both suffered domestic abuse. They're both gay, however. Knowing the trauma they suffered with getting smacked around by their lovers, I can't say I find the advertisement too endearing.

Making a joke out of men being hit by their lovers is kinda like making jokes out of prison rape. It's all too-common, but the situation its mocking is a really horrible, awful one that shouldn't invite such humor.

	30-06-2002 04:27									#43
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nothing's too bad to be made fun of, not even slapping.

you can't just go sue people who offend you or hurt your feelings, it's just not right

	30-06-2002 04:33									#44
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I have to say that I'm totally 100% behind you on this one, opposing this kind of message is a very noble thing for you to do. Thank you for taking the time to address this matter, I think that I will follow suit.

	30-06-2002 04:43									#45
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Alright, I just sent them an email of protest.

	30-06-2002 04:49									#46
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A slap on the cheek is not domestic abuse - I haven't seen the commercial but I doubt it implies or encourages domestic abuse at all. I really do not see what everyone is geting their panties in a twist about.

Besides, wouldn't your efforts be better spent protesting against things like GTA and Soldier of Fortune, or the latest action flick to come out of hollywood? Those all have a hell of alot more then cheek slaping, and all depict much larger things then domestic abuse.

	30-06-2002 05:51									#47
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Osweld: How dare you stomp on their social righteousness.

	30-06-2002 06:00									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Making a joke out of men being hit by their lovers is kinda like making jokes out of prison rape. It's all too-common, but the situation its mocking is a really horrible, awful one that shouldn't invite such humor.

Over-reaction of the week goes to...

	30-06-2002 08:20									#49
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by the way, i think in the name of social justice and what not, we should all go sign that petition to rename the upcoming Peter Jackson movie "The Two Towers" to something less offensive...

	30-06-2002 10:52									#50
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"I haven't seen the commercial but I doubt it implies or encourages domestic abuse at all."

And I take it you would be ok with a commerical with men slapping women? Striking your partner is domestic abuse. While there is worse violence that can be shown, domestic abuse whenever portrayed always portrays it as an evil act, not portrayed in a lighthearted manner.

Comeon Osweld, your fellow lefties monkspider and Che have got this one right..........

	30-06-2002 17:15									#51
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*snif* I'm ignored again. *slaps Shi*

Hey, I'm not his spouse so it's okay.

I've read an articke latelky about men being abused by their spouses. It happens more oftne then you think, and it REALLY ****s them up. I mean, it's not something you can call help for easily. "Hello police, my wife just threathened me with the kitchen knife and blacked my eye."

	30-06-2002 18:38									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi And I take it you would be ok with a commerical with men slapping women?

Of course I would, and I remember seeing a few commercials in the past that did that, too.

quote: Striking your partner is domestic abuse. While there is worse violence that can be shown, domestic abuse whenever portrayed always portrays it as an evil act, not portrayed in a lighthearted manner.

A simple slap on the cheek - no doubt done jokingly in the commercial - is not domestic abuse. Maybe if she said "Don't you ever look at another girl again you stupid little ****" and then proceded to beat him - that would be domestic abuse. But I have a hard time believing that there would be anything even remotely close to that in a bear commercial. The only person here that I know of who has actually seen the commercial and called it domestic abuse is BlackIce, and, well.... you know how he is.


And I'm still waiting for someone to explain why a measily slap on the cheek is cause for outrage, when there are cartoons a million times more violent.

	30-06-2002 19:04									#53
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Slaps are enough to be considered domestic abuse. My male friend who was a victim was slapped all the time by his bf. It wasn't so much the physical pain of being slapped, it was the emotional pain of being hit by someone he loved.

I don't think I'm overreacting either, Immortal Wombat. I wouldn't sue them. I am just registering my dislike of the commercial.

quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Comeon Osweld, your fellow lefties monkspider and Che have got this one right..........

Invisihomo strikes again!!!

	30-06-2002 21:12									#54
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yeah, ditto.

wait......

	30-06-2002 21:47									#55
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quote: you know how he is

No how is he Oswerd?

Seems you with others get into a real flap when someone stands up for male rights...You label, ignore and just generally make fools of yourselves with your blatant show of ignorance. Now I bet you have not even tried to find the commercial. You have simply posted to see your name. Bottom line is you can not have it both ways either it is wrong to abuse all or it is mute.

A slap is domestic violence BTB statistics conclude that men are domestically abused this way as a hugh majority. When you include all forms of domestic abuse males and females are equal.

Any promotion of violence on one sex or the other should not be tollerated what so ever.

http://www.childrennow.org/media/me...spring2000.html

Read that Oswerd a minor drop in the bucket...

Too true Rand Al'Tor and very little money or funding goes into this fact.

	30-06-2002 21:50									#56
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"Hey, I'm not his spouse

Right, and i don't think that'd happen either. Because:

1) I'm not gay
2) If I were you'd be below my standards

	30-06-2002 21:51									#57
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So what is your opinion on movie violence, since this obviously encourages everyone to kill everyone else.

Like in True Lies, when Arnold takes the Harrier and fires the missile with someone on it -- we should stop that kind of **** from happening because it promote Harrier theft and murder.

	30-06-2002 21:56									#58
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Commercials children see True Lies was R rated let's talk apples and apples here.

Games are rated.
Domestic violence is so far a womans issue maybe ask them what they think of true lies. Now it seems to me in true lies woman hits man, man hits man, woman hits woman. Maybe not such a good example...

	30-06-2002 21:56									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld quote: quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi And I take it you would be ok with a commerical with men slapping women? Of course I would, and I remember seeing a few commercials in the past that did that, too.

Of course you did. I bet you can provide us with the references as well.

	30-06-2002 21:59									#60
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Commercials children see True Lies was R rated let's talk apples and apples here. Games are rated. Domestic violence is so far a womans issue maybe ask them what they think of true lies. Now it seems to me in true lies woman hits man, man hits man, woman hits woman. Maybe not such a good example...

You seem to hate the double standard between men and women.

At the same time, you don't approve of women hitting men.

Therefore, you don't want any kind of violence at all. Why should man->man violence by any different, right?