28-06-2002 12:45									#1
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Budweiser's ( Labatt's) Commercial consists of women continuously slapping
their boyfriend/husbands axcross the face violently because he look at a
passing woman. Complaint to Labatt's Bob Chant, Director, Public Affairs

Tel. 416-235-2208
bob.chant@labatt.com


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Grant Wilson
2325 Hurontario St., Suite 281,
Mississauga, Ontario
L5A 4K4
416-526-1305

sent by fax to (416)361-5200

Labatt Brewing Company
The President
207 Queen's Quay West
Suite 299
P.O.Box 133
Toronto, Ontario M5J 1A7

Dear sir/madam,

RE: Domestic Violence - Budweiser Beer Ad
- City TV 12:40 am June 27, 2002

I was shocked to see an ad for Budweiser beer on CITY TV which consisted of
about 8 women slapping their boyfriend's/husband's face because he looked at
another woman on the street. The ad ended with the man using sunglasses.

I am sure that you would not allow an ad with 8 men slapping their
girlfriends/wives across the face.

I am a male victim of domestic violence and this ad trivializes domestic
violence against men and encourages it.

Please acknowledge immediately your action to terminate this ad or I will
proceed with legal action against you.

I have attached my letter to City TV.

Yours truly,


Grant Wilson


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Grant Wilson
2325 Hurontario St., Suite 281,
Mississauga, Ontario
L5A 4K4
416-526-1305
sent by fax to: 416-593-6397

June 27, 2002

Moses Znaimer
City TV
299 Queen St. W,
Toronto, ON M5V 2Z5

Dear Mr. Znaimer,

RE: Domestic Violence - Budweiser Beer Ad
- City TV 12:40 am June 27, 2002

	28-06-2002 12:52									#2
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Well ...

	28-06-2002 12:54									#3
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Oh my God, people are being slapped on TV, I think I'm gonna cry...

	28-06-2002 13:03									#4
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Heh tipical TV brainwashed kids. Not to long ago including today as the article obviously states. Take ten men slapping a woman on TV and what do you have.

Are you all just stupid or what? So in your mindless opinion it is ok to promote violence against men>?

It sure tells in further detail life in the food chain....

	28-06-2002 13:05									#5
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Likewise I want all movies involving any kind of hitting or other forms of violence banned.

	28-06-2002 13:30									#6
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blackice , I agree. There would be a huge outrage, if it would be other way around, and this is wrong.

Asher : love you sig.

	28-06-2002 13:59									#7
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Dalgetti too true yet we see it and become desensesitized about the male counter part, dog eat dog and all that. Personally I do not want my child male or female learning this tripe. You too obviously, Asher do you want you son growing understanding it is ok to be slapped by women?

	28-06-2002 14:03									#8
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blackice, are you also of the people who want violent video games and movies banned?

If women seriously go around and start slapping men because THEY DID IT IN THE BEER COMMERCIAL they've got serious problems, and people should use that as a guide to know who to get help.

	28-06-2002 14:07									#9
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I would agree that it's just as bad as the reverse (men slapping women) , and that they could perhaps voluntarely stop it, since they might be causing distress in abused men. But it shouldn't be banned.

	28-06-2002 14:55									#10
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The world is messed up.

It's a similar case in the UK where it's ok for there to be a music station especially for black music, whereas if a white music station was to be set up then it would be racist.

	28-06-2002 15:37									#11
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'Black music' stations will play 'black music' made by white people.

	28-06-2002 15:40									#12
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Likewise at Monash we have "Queer Week" at least once a semester but if we had "Hetero Week" everyone would be up in arms about "discrimination".

	29-06-2002 21:21									#13
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quote: blackice, are you also of the people who want violent video games and movies banned?

No but you missed the point entirely It is unacceptable in society to make a commercial where a man slaps a woman. Why is it acceptable to make one in reverse? It is not...As for the rest of what you say think before you type.

	29-06-2002 21:30									#14
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Take that advert away, and we'll have a society of males leering at every female the passes them, thanks to other adverts, where the slap is not enforced.

But no, it is wrong. Men should be allowed to hit women in commercials too.

	29-06-2002 21:35									#15
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quote: Originally posted by blackice No but you missed the point entirely It is unacceptable in society to make a commercial where a man slaps a woman.

That's not true.

It would be unnacceptable to depict spousal abuse towards women, but it would be unnaceptable to do the same towards men. A slap on the cheek, however, is not spousal abuse. I have not personally seen the commerical, but I am willing to bet that it was done jokingly and that it is, obviously, little more then a slap on the cheek.

	29-06-2002 21:39									#16
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As far as I'm conserned, women have the right to slap or generaly be mean to their spouse/boyfriend, it's compinsation for women having to go threw pregnancy & child birth. Men can't slap women because we have no good reasons.

Last edited by Darkworld Ark on 29-06-2002 at 21:50

	29-06-2002 22:22									#17
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Actually, I'm with blackice on this one.

	29-06-2002 22:26									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Darkworld Ark Men can't slap women because we have no good reasons.

If women follow your advice, they will have reason to.

	29-06-2002 22:28									#19
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Did anyone notice the Pot Noodle advert over here, that has women slapping men

	29-06-2002 23:09									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President Likewise at Monash we have "Queer Week" at least once a semester but if we had "Hetero Week" everyone would be up in arms about "discrimination".

That's because it's legal to have descrimination upon the basis of inclusion, but illegal to have descrimination upon the basis of exclusion.

	29-06-2002 23:10									#21
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I personally would like to see more ads featuring women slapping women.

	29-06-2002 23:11									#22
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WHy don't we ban all foul language as well....

	29-06-2002 23:14									#23
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Why don't we just be done with it and ban violence in commercials, TV, and movies altogether?

	29-06-2002 23:16									#24
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Yeah, and every morning, we should force people to recite the pledge of allegiance and make people say the Lord's prayer. In fact, let's force people to go to church on Sundays.

	29-06-2002 23:17									#25
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We should also ban obese people from being on TV and in movies, because that sends the message it's okay to be obese.

	29-06-2002 23:20									#26
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Yeah, and we should outlaw salt because uhmmm I don't know, because its bad?

And sugar too, sugar rots your teeth.

And TV in general, it rots your brains...

	29-06-2002 23:22									#27
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The obvious solution is to ban television programming in general and replace it with a continuous string of public service announcements.

	29-06-2002 23:27									#28
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Yeah. We should force people to watch TV for 8 hours a day, all advertisements, and then sell the time to the highest bidder. It's the only capitalist and christian thing to do.

	29-06-2002 23:45									#29
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This thread is very interesting. It illustrates an inherent tension between free speech and PC, and the obvious source of most PC - the feminist movement.

However, even the feminists are becoming more "sensitive" to men's issues and feelings - see some of the posts in the "college" thread.

I think blackice is right on this one. But PC has gone too far lately in censoring conservative free speech. But that is a different thread altogether.

	29-06-2002 23:49									#30
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I got slapped across the face last night.

When I asked her why, she said she didn't know and apologised - proof of subliminal messages corrupting the women of our society?