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France can bomb us back.

Hey Isareal, get rid of your nukes, then no one else in the regions will need them.

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They just want to have a bigger stick. Talk about destabilizing the region is a bunch of hogwash.

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Will this change Europe's views on NMD?

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France can bomb us back.


France will surrender before the first bomb falls.

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This is not new,the argentinean government sold a nuclear reactor to egypt 3 years ago, but for peaceful purposes.
Now the is a big debate here because we have sold one to Australia, but we will have to keep the nuclear residuals for 2 years or something like that.

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Will this change Europe's views on NMD?


What will change Europe's tune is a nice, big boom in Rome.

Actually, I kinda hope the Islamofascists will nuke Marseille first. I like Marseille, so it ain't that, but the French are about as considerate and thoughtful chaps as the Taliban when la gloire de la République is at stake. And they have both the bombs and the delivery capabilities to prove it too.

But if the Moslem fanatics have half a brain cell left after contemplating all those virgins their getting in paradise if the kill enough infidels, they'll go for the US exclusively. Can't think of a better way to drive in an transatlantic wedge.

Europe, unfortunately, has always been a lot more about realpolitik than the US.

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France will surrender before the first bomb falls.


Quite possibly. But it will certainly not surrender after.

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Will this change Europe's views on NMD?


Why would it?

NMD is applicable only against long-range ballistic missile. You don't need to send a missile 90 miles up to hit Europe from Egypt.

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you dont even need a missile, you can throw it to south italy or greece by catapult


but Siro, you said Sudan is 70% done with the nukes? Sudan!? Are we talking about starved country south of Egypt? link? this is first news to me that they are working on nuclear weapons

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Like i said before, the whole region will have chem and nuclear weapons in the next 20 years.. If isreal doens't learn how to make peace it will be wiped out, its just a matter of time.

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I can just see the end of the nuclear holocaust now. The two surviving people pull themselves out of the rubble:

1: You know, letting that last country develop nukes, really wasn't a good idea.

2: Yeah. Hey, now that I'm the last man alive. . .

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hi ,

if they are going to keep building tunnels , then it shall be osirak number two , real fast , ....

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Why would it?

NMD is applicable only against long-range ballistic missile. You don't need to send a missile 90 miles up to hit Europe from Egypt.


KH, Then the Euro's would be wise to develop something that would deal with missiles from Egypt.

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KH, Then the Euro's would be wise to develop something that would deal with missiles from Egypt.


hi ,

, they should by "made in Israel" , .....

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you dont even need a missile, you can throw it to south italy or greece by catapult

ROFL

You're already in Iran's range IIRC

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but Siro, you said Sudan is 70% done with the nukes? Sudan!? Are we talking about starved country south of Egypt? link? this is first news to me that they are working on nuclear weapons

Perhaps I'm confusing it with another state. It's possible.

But don't be fooled. A nuclear project could very well be the reason the people are starving.

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ROFL

You're already in Iran's range IIRC

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but Siro, you said Sudan is 70% done with the nukes? Sudan!? Are we talking about starved country south of Egypt? link? this is first news to me that they are working on nuclear weapons

Perhaps I'm confusing it with another state. It's possible.

But don't be fooled. A nuclear project could very well be the reason the people are starving.


hi ,

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KH, Then the Euro's would be wise to develop something that would deal with missiles from Egypt.


I'm sure Israel will agree to sell them the Hetz, for an inflated price.

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I'm sure it doesn't matter, because if Europe or NA get nuked, it won't be via missile.

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U.S., Israeli sources discount reports of Cairo nuclear bid

By Aluf Benn

Recent reports about Egyptian intentions to develop nuclear weaponry do not match intelligence information in Jerusalem, according to a senior Israeli official.

Last week, the German daily Die Welt ran a story saying Egypt is interested in enriching uranium it mines in the Sinai, with the help of China.

The official said Monday that "we have no proof that Egypt is involved in a military nuclear program. It has a certain degree of capability and infrastructure, but as far as we know it made the decision not to go down that route."

An American official called the Die Welt report "disinformation," and in a private conversation over the weekend, said the United States does not see any problem with Egypt on the nuclear front.

But the Israeli source noted that intelligence cannot always know about everything going on, and that every country puts most of its effort into keeping nuclear developments secret. Israeli and Western intelligence agencies were surprised at the end of the Gulf War as to how far the Iraqi nuclear program had gone.

In the coming days, John Bolton, undersecretary of state for international security and arms control, is due in Israel for talks on halting regional nuclear proliferation, which Jerusalem regards as its top national security threat. The Arab world perceives Israel as a nuclear power, and any Arab or Iranian acquisition of a nuclear device could set off a regional arms race. Minister without Portfolio Dan Meridor, a veteran of Israeli nuclear policy, has warned that the arms race could be among Arab countries struggling for hegemony in the Arab world and in the Gulf region.

For Israel, the three most threatening countries are Iran, Iraq and Libya, which reportedly has also been making efforts to acquire technology for nuclear power. With Russian help, Iran is building a reactor, and the United States is applying pressure on Moscow to keep that project strictly civilian. Most recently, U.S. President George W. Bush raised the issue with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, when they met in May. The United States offered Russia compensation for ceasing nuclear cooperation with Iran, and, according to administration officials testifying to the Senate, warned that if the Russians continue to cooperate, Washington would reduce strategic cooperation in the pipeline for Moscow.

Russia recently beefed up its rules for exporting nuclear know-how, and has cracked down on some dangerous projects. But Russian companies continue to sell high technology, including weapons related technology, to what the Americans regard as worrying countries.

John Wolf, an assistant secretary of state in the bureau for non-proliferation, told Congress that "we made clear to the Russians they have to end that aid, and not only to Iran, or we will have to impose sanctions."

The United States did agree, however, that Russia could continue helping with Iran's Bushehr nuclear plant, but insisted on stepped-up security arrangements and monitoring. The main effort will be to ensure that the plutonium enriched rods created by the nuclear process are returned to Russia so the Iranians cannot develop nuclear material from them.

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No one cares to blame Israeli media for blowing this out of proportion?

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I would not worry about egypt having nuclear power no more so than I worry about the US having it.

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I would not worry about egypt having nuclear power no more so than I worry about the US having it.


hi ,

, until they start to use WMD , both against the US and smuggle a couple true the southwest in to Australia , ......

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Unfortunately Hydey, the US has proved it's responsible with nukes. I sure as hell don't want 20 some million Ahmeds(EDIT) running around with nukes.

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The correct term is "Ahmeds".

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okay... sorry Eli

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Unfortunately Hydey, the US has proved it's responsible with nukes. I sure as hell don't want 20 some million Ahmeds(EDIT) running around with nukes.


hi ,

, at least one smart guy , (who is not a member of ZOG (!) ) , ....

just imagine what they could do with a couple nukes , ...

and speaking of it , there is nothing to crazy for them , ...

the world is warned , but of course the Israeli's are allways wrong , ....

lets hope there does have to be a day in history first where a couple million people reach 10000 degrees in 0.1 seconds first , .....

and then to say that that info about egypt is outhere , not classified , fore anyone to read , ....

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no way sudan will build a nuke now or in 50 years.

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I would not worry about egypt having nuclear power no more so than I worry about the US having it.


Really? Probably only because you live in Australia.

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no way sudan will build a nuke now or in 50 years.


hi ,

dont bet on that , ....

and they can always build a dirty weapon , or steal one , ....

or let someone else build it , in return for the construction yard , the builder could give a weapon for free , ....

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I say we just take out the dam in Upper Egypt and let the flood take care of them .

 
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