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I say we just take out the dam in Upper Egypt and let the flood take care of them .


hi ,

dont worry , ......

that plans is most likely why they go nuclear , no-one dares to bomb that when finished , .....

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but an accident can always occur.

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but an accident can always occur.


hi ,

that shall happen sooner then later , .....
without anyone or any other country behind it , .....

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hi,

no, Sudan will not build a nuke now or in 50 years.

you have to have a strong central government, peace and at least some trace of decent GDP to do that. everyone is underestimating the difficulties involved in building a nuke.

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hi,

no, Sudan will not build a nuke now or in 50 years.

you have to have a strong central government, peace and at least some trace of decent GDP to do that. everyone is underestimating the difficulties involved in building a nuke.

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hi ,

read a bit up on the page , ....

that is possible , ...

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hi

no, it is not possible

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Just wondering...

Is there a certain chain of malfunctions and mistakes that will cause the Irani reactor to go boom, ala Chernobyl, before it becomes operational?

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no, it is not possible

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hi ,

yes its possible that they invite someone to build one and give them one for free in return , ....

yes its possible that they build a low yield dirty weapon , .....

yes they could steal one , .....

a lot of people talked before , "its not possible" , ....yet today more and more nations have the bomb , ....

and you dont even need a nuclear powerplant to build one , ...
it just goes faster and easier when you have one , ...

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Just wondering...

Is there a certain chain of malfunctions and mistakes that will cause the Irani reactor to go boom, ala Chernobyl, before it becomes operational?


hi ,

they allready had several severe accidents , ....so why not , ....

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Well, I hope the guys in the Institution do their best to increase the chances of such... accident.

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Well, I hope the guys in the Institution do their best to increase the chances of such... accident.


hi ,

off the record ; we , are working on the avoidance of such a dreadfull accident , .....

currently we are working on ways to "disincintivate" the production of WMD , ....

Eli , you spelled increase wrong , you meant DEcrease , ...

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disincintivate?

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I never said they couldnt steal or buy one

They can acquire one, but they cant build it. No way. It takes a bit more expertise then connection to the internet as CIA claims

Its not the same.

And do you really think someone will come to Sudan, build their nukes there and leave one free to Sudan in exchange?

come on get serious

it is more likely Vatican will build one then Sudan

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disincintivate?


hi ,

yes that is to be the correct word , nowadays , ......

there is an image to keep you know , .....

it was first used on the hill , ..... by a citizen from a friendly nation , now it sticks , ....

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I never said they couldnt steal or buy one

They can acquire one, but they cant build it. No way. It takes a bit more expertise then connection to the internet as CIA claims

Its not the same.

And do you really think someone will come to Sudan, build their nukes there and leave one free to Sudan in exchange?

come on get serious

it is more likely Vatican will build one then Sudan


hi ,

did you ever read the news , on page 25 , ....

allas , osama , bin , laden , was visiting the sudan , ....

true diplo mail they got 50 pounds of u-235 , ....

some guys from iraq , with some facial hair , found it needed to bring some parts there , ....

build it , well , in South-Africa there where only 4 people , ....and they build 8 of them , .... , in two years , ....

you ought to check the news on the back pages more often , .....

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They can acquire one, but they cant build it. No way. It takes a bit more expertise then connection to the internet as CIA claims


It doesn't take very much expertise.

Starting from scratch, what you need is access to a raw uranium source, a breeder reactor, and a bit of time (maybe a few months to process enough fissile material).

The actual construction of the bomb (once you've got the Pu or weapons-grade U) is pretty damn simple.

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They can acquire one, but they cant build it. No way. It takes a bit more expertise then connection to the internet as CIA claims


It doesn't take very much expertise.

Starting from scratch, what you need is access to a raw uranium source, a breeder reactor, and a bit of time (maybe a few months to process enough fissile material).

The actual construction of the bomb (once you've got the Pu or weapons-grade U) is pretty damn simple.


hi ,

and they have all the raw material allready , .....
more the 100 pounds of u-235 , more then 75 pounds of u-238 , ....and those reports are on the lowest site

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and to build a plane all you need is wings hull and engine

or to build a car you need wheels... etc etc

and for world peace you need only some good will!


you are both oversimplyifying


no, 4 people are not enough

no, its not a matter of get the parts and glue them with help of a 20 page booklet

if it was ... well, there are far more potent countries that want nukes and still dont have them. It takes huge expertise for such an enterprise

now you two check your facts for sudan: wolrds most poor or second poor, irrelevant, they have nothing to eat, they are engaged in bloody civil war and their scientific and tech level is matching that.

I repeat, no way will Sudan build a nuke, now or in 50 years

israelis are too paranoid about this issue

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and to build a plane all you need is wings hull and engine

or to build a car you need wheels... etc etc

and for world peace you need only some good will!


you are both oversimplyifying


no, 4 people are not enough

no, its not a matter of get the parts and glue them with help of a 20 page booklet

if it was ... well, there are far more potent countries that want nukes and still dont have them. It takes huge expertise for such an enterprise

now you two check your facts for sudan: wolrds most poor or second poor, irrelevant, they have nothing to eat, they are engaged in bloody civil war and their scientific and tech level is matching that.

I repeat, no way will Sudan build a nuke, now or in 50 years

israelis are too paranoid about this issue


hi ,

what you need to do is to read a bit more info about sudan , ....and the scud's the have , and the chemical plants , and the nuclear doctors they have , .....
and the amount of some stuff , you dont get u-235 and 238 to make chocolate , .....

huge expertise , yes , but anyone from certain schools can make a nuclear weapon , ....
Israeli's paranoid , no , just facts , just facts , .....
or are the boys on the hill in DC also "paranoid" , ....
and is that the raeson they sent some costly cruise missiles into sudan , ....

sudan has openly told the world that it has the ambition to do so , ...

they have allready scud's pointed at the aswan dam , .....sattelite photo's are a proof of that , ...

do you really thing that sadam gave some goodies to sudan , just to keep it in the fridge , ....

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and to build a plane all you need is wings hull and engine

or to build a car you need wheels... etc etc

and for world peace you need only some good will!


you are both oversimplyifying


no, 4 people are not enough

no, its not a matter of get the parts and glue them with help of a 20 page booklet

if it was ... well, there are far more potent countries that want nukes and still dont have them. It takes huge expertise for such an enterprise

now you two check your facts for sudan: wolrds most poor or second poor, irrelevant, they have nothing to eat, they are engaged in bloody civil war and their scientific and tech level is matching that.

I repeat, no way will Sudan build a nuke, now or in 50 years

israelis are too paranoid about this issue




It's a frigging country, not some guy in his backyard. They have at least a few machinists and engineers available, I'm sure.

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is it just me or does VetLegion sound like he's discussing Sudan as if it's a nation in a game of Civ?

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It's a frigging country, not some guy in his backyard. They have at least a few machinists and engineers available, I'm sure.


hi ,

how about more then 500 guys from saddam , ......

not to talk about the guy from sudan itself who where in other nations , like pakistan , ....

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