01-07-2002 20:07									#1
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europ...t.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europ...ping/index.html

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	01-07-2002 20:14									#2
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Our allies need us more than we need our allies, especially the Netherlands.

	01-07-2002 20:16									#3
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Our allies need us more than we need our allies.

We might end up getting a nasty surprise with this kind of thinking, because it ain't all that true.

	01-07-2002 20:17									#4
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you can't fight your war on drugs and your war on terror alone.

besides, in the future you may need more help from others. And they will have remembered this. Don't be so short sighted.

	01-07-2002 20:18									#5
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Our allies need us more than we need our allies, especially the Netherlands.

Apart from the NL troll - this so called "alliance" is a net negative for the EU. Absent some dramatic change it will be liquidated in maybe 10 years.

	01-07-2002 20:18									#6
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quote: especially the Netherlands

we don't need you. Nobody is targetting Holland. Recent investigations have also shown that terrorists, including and specifically Al Qaida, aren't going to target Holland.

	01-07-2002 20:19									#7
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"you can't fight your war on drugs and your war on terror alone."

I agree. But think about the global security guarantee that the US offers to countries such as the Netherlands.

	01-07-2002 20:19									#8
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quote: Apart from the NL troll - this so called "alliance" is a net negative for the EU. Absent some dramatic change it will be liquidated in maybe 10 years.

With the US acting like this: about Goddamn time.

	01-07-2002 20:20									#9
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quote: But think about the global security guarantee that the US offers to countries such as the Netherlands.

we have no enemies

guess why even Gadaffi wanted the Lockerby court on Dutch soil. Nobody has a quarrel with us.

	01-07-2002 20:21									#10
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"Absent some dramatic change it will be liquidated in maybe 10 years."

On what do you base this opinion?

	01-07-2002 20:21									#11
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on the way the US is acting nowadays. and this recent event is the worst since a long time.

	01-07-2002 20:22									#12
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"we have no enemies "

Again, I agree. But countries with which you do business most definitely have enemies and potential enemies.

	01-07-2002 20:22									#13
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quote: Originally posted by DanS But think about the global security guarantee that the US offers to countries such as the Netherlands.

You mean the global insecurity guarantee that the US provided to "those who are not with us" ?

	01-07-2002 20:23									#14
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Yes, such as North Korea, Iran and Iraq. Plus Syria and Libya, when we're in a bad mood. That whole Axis of Evil thingy.

	01-07-2002 20:24									#15
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quote: Originally posted by DanS On what do you base this opinion?

Name me one advantage for the EU from this so-called "alliance".

	01-07-2002 20:24									#16
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quote: But countries with which you do business most definitely have enemies and potential enemies.

And you'll protect us from possible enemies that may want to attack Holland sometime in the future?

Like you helped us in 1940 huh?

	01-07-2002 20:25									#17
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Serbia/Yugoslavia. Bosnia.

	01-07-2002 20:25									#18
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quote: Yes, such as North Korea, Iran and Iraq. Plus Syria and Libya, when we're in a bad mood. That whole Axis of Evil thingy.

Don't forget terrorist Cuba.

	01-07-2002 20:25									#19
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heh, i think staying allied to the US can be more dangerous than not staying allied, there is no big aggressor out there waiting to invade europe, but only terrorists, whose main target is the US. Staying allied with the US could eventually lead the terrorist to Europe.

	01-07-2002 20:25									#20
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We've forgotten them. Trashbin of discarded lies stuff.

	01-07-2002 20:25									#21
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quote: Serbia/Yugoslavia. Bosnia.

Seems you're backing out of that as well now.

	01-07-2002 20:26									#22
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Lemmy: They've already found you.

	01-07-2002 20:27									#23
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that's what Bush wants us to believe

	01-07-2002 20:28									#24
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SM: Perhaps we should just stop all peacekeeping. Let Europe do it all.

	01-07-2002 20:28									#25
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Still waiting....

	01-07-2002 20:29									#26
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that's what I said. you'll run out of allies quickly with that attitude.

	01-07-2002 20:30									#27
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I've given you my answer, Roland. And it's a good one.

	01-07-2002 20:31									#28
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You have? when?

	01-07-2002 20:31									#29
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"I've given you my answer, Roland."

Where ?

"And it's a good one."

Empty promises...

	01-07-2002 20:33									#30
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"Where ?"

European inability to act. The U.S. acted in both Bosnia and Kosovo.