04-07-2002 21:07									#31
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HAhAHAHAHHAHA.

I don't miss the nutcase days at all. oh yeah JK Rowling is indoctrinating children into her demonic religion and will have the children she contols through her evil ways demand that she is named empress of the world.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You must be kidding. Even SKILORD thinks this is ridiculous. They had letters about this in the Luthran newsletter thing and i must say that those letters are almost as ridiculous as this is.

It's like Salem all over again.

	04-07-2002 21:27									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Jaakko I wonder what Cloud thinks about RPGs. He wouldn't know about the really cool stuff like Unknown Armies or Delta Green (nudge nudge wink wink), but surely he's heard about Dungeons & Dragons. So how 'bout it dude?

You beat me to it.

Not to mention all those Magic: the Gathering cards, Star Trek (with it's quite obvert bias towards atheism), a whole bunch of kiddie stories such as Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland, the whole works.

	04-07-2002 21:27									#33
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Wow SKILORD. You took the words right out of my mouth. Even you think this is ridiculous...

Something very odd is going on. Apolyton had been united against a common enemy...

	04-07-2002 21:30									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger You beat me to it. Not to mention all those Magic: the Gathering cards, Star Trek (with it's quite obvert bias towards atheism), a whole bunch of kiddie stories such as Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Alice in Wonderland, the whole works.

About Star Trek. That's not entirely true. Especially in DS9. And especially this one episode of Voyager having to do with spirituality. This was back when Kes was still there.

But yes, for the most part, the Federation is atheistic.

But at least they don't practice that dern magic...

	04-07-2002 21:33									#35
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Hey Urban, do you have any Unholy Strengths with the pentagram background? I've been looking for a set to put in my Suicide Black, but no one wants to trade.

	04-07-2002 21:40									#36
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Yeah, got a few.

	04-07-2002 21:48									#37
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Ah, but the important question is…











When is the fifth book coming out????

The writer's bibliography is laughable, her logic is loose: as William Burroughs would say "it's full of holes, it's full of holes." Also, her information is incredibly incorrect. I personally doubt she's read any of the books. She claims that the order to kill Cedric comes from "an unkown source" when it comes from Voldemort. It's errors like that that absolutely riddle their article with inadequacies.

	04-07-2002 21:50									#38
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UR, gimmegimmegimme!

	04-07-2002 21:59									#39
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Jaakko,

PM me

	04-07-2002 22:04									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Wow SKILORD. You took the words right out of my mouth. Even you think this is ridiculous... Something very odd is going on. Apolyton had been united against a common enemy...

wow Your right. This date should be marked somewhere It must be a sign. A big one that claims that harry Potter isn't satanic.

have you read any of the books Cloud9? has anyone who rabidly stands against Harry Potter ever read any of the books? I sincerely doubt it.

	04-07-2002 22:32									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Felch X All we want is for "Christians" to get their heads out of some ancient middle-astern superstition. Magic doesn't exist. Hence it isn't a threat and can't be bad.

Oh, but is not appropriate to do it with insults.

quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Cloud9, with all due respect and seriousness, would you kindly get a life?

quote: Originally posted by Sava

quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Apolyton had been united against a common enemy...

You all have insulted over and over and over again. I'm sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I refuse to be decieved by immoralists. Try a more conservative approach.

	04-07-2002 22:43									#42
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Me immoral or you fanatic?

	04-07-2002 22:47									#43
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while I agree what we take into our bodies and minds influence us

(which is why kids can't get into rated R movies)

I don't see how Harry Potter is worst than most anything else (I have not read the books, only watched the movie)

probably, if I was a parent now I would want my children to have a little maturity before reading the books (I have heard some of the later ones are fairly serious), like say be in say the 2nd or 3rd grade

BTW, some, like Lorizael, made good responses without the insults

Jon Miller
(avid fantasy reader)

	04-07-2002 22:49									#44
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Cloud9:

How about replying to my question about RPGs for starters? And do read that link I posted on page 1.

	04-07-2002 22:49									#45
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Turning the "white magic is as bad as black magic" argument by 90°:
Usually kids know by an age of three or four that there isn't any magic in the world (Unless God plans to do so, but he wisely refrains from doing it). They know there are no dragons. But they have still fun in listening to fairy tales. The most important influence which could make them believe otherwise are adult persons who tells otherwise. Be it Occultists or Christian fundamentalists which are therefore likewise evil.

Why is the faith of those fundamentalists so weak that they fear fantasy books?

P.S. I'm non-fundamentalist Christian. Catholic and adherent to the Marian Minimism.

	04-07-2002 22:55									#46
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Wait if Harry is immoral then what about star wars!

We can't have kids running around spouting nonsense about the 'force' and trying to (heaven forbid) fight with those demon toy lightsabres, Idolizing Darth Maul and Vader!

	04-07-2002 22:55									#47
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I am also curious on how Cloud9 feels about Narnia. And Brave New World, one of my favourite books.

P.S. I can't WAIT until Cloud9 of a Christian Fundie gets a hold of the 'his dark materials' trilogy! The humans have a war with heaven, and the Church is an evil dictatorship that still kills and now abducts children for Nazi-style experiments! Cloud9, PLEASE read them (the first one is called the northern lights or the golden compass), I would very much enjoy hearing your viewpoint on these, another three of my favourites.

	04-07-2002 23:04									#48
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Cloud9, isn't this just distracting you from your serious, in-depth investigation into that rock formation you claim is Noah's Ark being on Mt. Ararat?

Dude, you've just shattered any credibility you might have had with anyone here...

	04-07-2002 23:05									#49
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Go away Civnation

	04-07-2002 23:07									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan I am also curious on how Cloud9 feels about Narnia. And Brave New World, one of my favourite books. P.S. I can't WAIT until Cloud9 of a Christian Fundie gets a hold of the 'his dark materials' trilogy! The humans have a war with heaven, and the Church is an evil dictatorship that still kills and now abducts children for Nazi-style experiments! Cloud9, PLEASE read them (the first one is called the northern lights or the golden compass), I would very much enjoy hearing your viewpoint on these, another three of my favourites.

the first one is golden compass

while fair books, they are marketed as kids books but I do not consider them appropriate for most elementry school students

Jon Miller
(it has been a while since I read them so I don't remember the specifics)

	04-07-2002 23:07									#51
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(I haven't read the last of them, just the first one or two)

Jon Miller

	04-07-2002 23:08									#52
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Cloud9:

Threads like this only insult our intelligence and make you look like a fool, not some enlightened human being who claims to have found God and walks His path.

Gatekeeper

	04-07-2002 23:10									#53
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I mentioned both names, as it was marketed in the UK as the Northern Lights. It's more of a young adult/adult type book, and here, it was aimed much more at people in second year and above of Secondary Education (about 13 year olds, and then, only really the ones interested in reading would pick it up).

	04-07-2002 23:13									#54
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yeah

13 and up sounds a lot better age for it then I remember it being marketed for

Jon Miller

	04-07-2002 23:47									#55
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I know the books of which he speaks.

They aren't bad at all.

How do you feel about secular music Cloud9?

Somewhere i made a post about playing God by "transmitting his will." is this a case of that? Do you have some personal grudge against Mr. Potter and wish to make us beleive that God doesn't like him either in order to carry out your own vendetta?

	05-07-2002 00:07									#56
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harry potter?I think he is stupid IMHO.Boring stupid book.And yes i wanna burn all poeple who write such books.I need a campfire...

	05-07-2002 00:10									#57
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ahhh philippe has come to share his enlightened opinions with us!

nifty.

Cloud9 is hiding methinks.

	05-07-2002 00:13									#58
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or had other things to do

Jon Miller

	05-07-2002 00:16									#59
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Like burning books? Or witches?

	05-07-2002 00:19									#60
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no I don't think so (I could be wrong, but Cloud9 does not seem like a raving loony to me)

Jon Miller