05-07-2002 00:22									#61
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I don't think anyone thinks of him like that......

nope no way

	05-07-2002 03:26									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Cloud9: Threads like this only insult our intelligence and make you look like a fool, not some enlightened human being who claims to have found God and walks His path. Gatekeeper

Well, if you wanna be like that then, same to you.

	05-07-2002 03:27									#63
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quote: Originally posted by SKILORD Cloud9 is hiding methinks.

Nope. Just celebrating the fourth of July. I will gone again in a few minutes.

	05-07-2002 03:47									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Cloud9 That is so extremist. I could tell you the same thing, but I'm not gonna. All you wanna do is persecute Christians. That is so sad.

So then I want to persecute...MYSELF?

I'm very Christian. The differance is I don't force my beliefs on others.

	05-07-2002 03:59									#65
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of course it is evil.

kids shouldn't be reading. They will get beaten up at school for being nerds.

Thus it is safe to conclude that Harry Potter is directly causing kids to be beaten up in school.

That is assault and battery. I suggest charging the auther with these crimes.

	05-07-2002 04:01									#66
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No persecution of christians here, just criticizing extremeists, the likes of which give the religion a bad name.

	05-07-2002 04:19									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan I am also curious on how Cloud9 feels about Narnia. And Brave New World, one of my favourite books. P.S. I can't WAIT until Cloud9 of a Christian Fundie gets a hold of the 'his dark materials' trilogy! The humans have a war with heaven, and the Church is an evil dictatorship that still kills and now abducts children for Nazi-style experiments! Cloud9, PLEASE read them (the first one is called the northern lights or the golden compass), I would very much enjoy hearing your viewpoint on these, another three of my favourites.

I covered these in my post above. As I pointed out the authors of "Narnia", "Brave New World", and "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy were influential Christian apologists at Oxford.

	05-07-2002 04:24									#68
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That's why I was saying I was also curious. I more or less reposted your question because Cloud9 hadn't answered. Come on Cloudy!

	05-07-2002 04:31									#69
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I am a Christian, but I don't have a problem with people reading Harry Potter. I don't know of any real evidence that shows that Harry Potter turns people away from Christianity.

	05-07-2002 04:35									#70
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You're mad Cloud9, completely and utterly barking.

It's a book! A kids fantasy book! And a film as well now! That is it, a bit of fun!

Sheesh *shakes head*

	05-07-2002 08:56									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Cloud9 Oh no, that is totally immoral. But I bet you'd burn Christians at the stake.

No, I prefer the Roman tradition of throwing them to the lions. Boy, those were the good old days. . . sigh.

	05-07-2002 09:00									#72
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It's great. He takes one line of my post that was meant as a joke and responds to that. The part where I actually give my reasons he ignores.

People have selective... what would this be called... seeing? reading?

	05-07-2002 11:11									#73
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quote: Originally posted by SKILORD No persecution of christians here, just criticizing extremeists, the likes of which give the religion a bad name.

Oh yeah, and is that to say that atheist and agnostic extremists are to be persecuted as well. Well, maybe not, but that's what I'm implying.

	05-07-2002 11:15									#74
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Cloud9,
I have a question. Honestly, Have you actually read any of the Harry Potter books, which ones?

I've only read the Sorceror's Stone, but it seems to me that even the author doesn't take the material very seriously, in fact there's alot of subtle humor in the story. In alot of ways, it sort of reminds me of Men in Black, except instead of there being a conspiracy to cover up the existence of aliens, it's rather a conspiracy to cover up the existence of magic.
If the author herself doesn't take herself too seriously, how in world would you expect the readers to take the story seriously?

	05-07-2002 11:19									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan That's why I was saying I was also curious. I more or less reposted your question because Cloud9 hadn't answered. Come on Cloudy!

Like I said earlier in this thread, I have been out partying and having a good time, celebrating the fourth of July, that is.

Many of you have asked me to look into certain things and give my opinion of certain things, but I am overwhelmed with all the requests. Give me some time to respond, please.

	05-07-2002 12:29									#76
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Harry Potter evil and satanic, promoting witchcraft?

Not quite. 'Tis but a very nice series of books.

If thou art really interested in fighting the instruments of the Evil One, where are the attacks on Sylvester Stallone and Pauly Shore?

I echo those who say actually read the books before condemning them.
They are as harmless as a NAMBLA* meeting in an elementary school.



















* = National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes. The only danger is they might eat a few of the more appetizing kiddies.

	05-07-2002 20:35									#77
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This Harry Potter thread must be mighty indeed, if it can bring Simon Darkshade to post on Apolyton.

	05-07-2002 20:41									#78
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We were debating Simon's obsession with little boys. I thought Simon should be able to defend one of his true loves.

	05-07-2002 20:44									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Cloud9 Many of you have asked me to look into certain things and give my opinion of certain things, but I am overwhelmed with all the requests. Give me some time to respond, please.

This is his standard cop-out. He says he will "research" things and come back to it, but never does. And on those rare occasions when he does, it's with something so ludicrous as to be funny, or something that contradicts what he said before. Do the backpedal!

	05-07-2002 20:47									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov This is his standard cop-out. He says he will "research" things and come back to it, but never does. And on those rare occasions when he does, it's with something so ludicrous as to be funny, or something that contradicts what he said before. Do the backpedal!

Shhh Boris. Give him a chance now. Maybe, just maybe, he'll say something useful.

	05-07-2002 20:57									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan I thought Simon should be able to defend one of his true loves.

I thought his true love was Elijah Wood....

	05-07-2002 21:06									#82
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Nah, he also loves the boys from Hanson. And Harry, and I would guess Ron, too.

	05-07-2002 23:14									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Sixchan Nah, he also loves the boys from Hanson. And Harry, and I would guess Ron, too.

Bah! Thou takest the piss, woman! Obsession indeed.

quote: This Harry Potter thread must be mighty indeed, if it can bring Simon Darkshade to post on Apolyton

Do I know thee, sparkplug?

	05-07-2002 23:16									#84
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"Girls are the devil, Bobby Boucher!"....

"Ben Franklin is the devil, momma invented electricity!"....

	05-07-2002 23:33									#85
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I haven't been on 'poly long enough to get to know everyone, so I ask you guys, is her serious? I mean really serious.



Just wondering...

	06-07-2002 11:06									#86
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last time i saw something like this against harry potter, it was a chick tract.

of course, the chick tract version of what goes on in harry potter is nothing like what actually shows up in the books...

	06-07-2002 23:47									#87
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If you're really afraid that books are going to indoctrinate children into bizzare cults you should attempt to get the Bible outlawed.