07-07-2002 00:07									#1
	Unofficial Presidential Election Poll Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

If the Presidential election was held right now, who would you vote for?

Trip (UFC Incumbent)
Ninot (DIA)

	07-07-2002 00:18									#2
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its neck and neck! err 1 to 1 ... but still ...

	07-07-2002 00:19									#3
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Heh, I was wondering how long it would be before someone did this in our democracy....

Are we going to have an "Incumbent" in other our other election threads?

	07-07-2002 00:20									#4
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so im the first? haha, we can have a whole series of "Gallup" polls...

	07-07-2002 00:21									#5
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errr, this may be tainting the polls, no?

	07-07-2002 00:25									#6
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maybe, but its just to get an idea of how the real election will be.

	07-07-2002 00:41									#7
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dunno, this is unexplored territory.....

I knew we would have to deal with this eventually

	07-07-2002 01:07									#8
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I think we should make it a rule : no gallup polls during the week before the elections. This way, we won't confuse people with 2 polls on the same issue. What do you think ?

	07-07-2002 01:11									#9
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Good plan Spiffor.

Abstain.

	07-07-2002 01:12									#10
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the first word is "Unofficial." cmon. i dont see any confused people. maybe their hiding in a dark corner eating bananas and sniffing ... bananas ...

anyway, it shouldnt be a week, cuz a lot happens in a week. maybe 3 days...

	07-07-2002 01:12									#11
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oh, one last thing. when are elections?

	07-07-2002 01:58									#12
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I do NOT approve of pre-election returns as they scew results. Therefore, I lie. I wont tell you who I voted for, but it was a lie.

	07-07-2002 02:20									#13
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No one should take this seriously, in fact I lied too .

I don' like this idea, not at all.....

	07-07-2002 02:36									#14
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are polls, unofficial or not, anonymous?

In case they're not I may or may not be lying.

	07-07-2002 02:48									#15
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quote: Originally posted by OPD are polls, unofficial or not, anonymous? In case they're not I may or may not be lying.

hi ,

the gods can see everything


so guys is this poll illegal or not , ...
should we stop with "unofficial" poll's , ....



Trip , NYE what do you say , ...

have a nice day

	07-07-2002 02:57									#16
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I don't care. We have public opinion polling before real elections. The only problem I would see is that if one candidate or the other holds a crushing victory in an opinion poll and that affects the votes of others, or how the candidates perform.

	07-07-2002 03:09									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Trip I don't care. We have public opinion polling before real elections. The only problem I would see is that if one candidate or the other holds a crushing victory in an opinion poll and that affects the votes of others, or how the candidates perform.

hi ,

, ... , well since there is an amendment in the constitution concerning elections , thsi could maybe be worked out and included , ....

have a nice day

	07-07-2002 04:13									#18
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any citizen should be able to post a poll or thread on anything he wants whenever he wants. The official polls will say OFFICIAL. Everyone has a right to be heard. This is like saying television stations cant poll citizens before real presidential elections because it may influence the way people vote. Campaigning and polling are both parts of any elections. If this is going to be a democracy game then the people have a right to be heard.

	07-07-2002 05:26									#19
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quote: Originally posted by panag the gods can see everything

yeah but can the candidates, directly or indirectly, find out who voted for/against them?

Can I find out who voted for who in other polls?

	07-07-2002 05:42									#20
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quote: Originally posted by OPD yeah but can the candidates, directly or indirectly, find out who voted for/against them? Can I find out who voted for who in other polls?

I know how...

	07-07-2002 05:44									#21
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I don't think so. I can't imagine a circumstance where Mark or Dan would choose to reveal that information to non staff. I doubt any of the other staff would do it without Mark or Dan saying so. I could be wrong though.

	07-07-2002 05:50									#22
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Should this information should be avaliable to all?
I suspect some citizens who are on good terms with admin could swindle access.

I hear Uber was visiting Firaxis today!

	07-07-2002 05:54									#23
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quote: Originally posted by OPD Should this information should be avaliable to all? I suspect some citizens who are on good terms with admin could swindle access. I hear Uber was visiting Firaxis today!

I wouldn't say that UK would be the most popular fellow at Firaxis.

	07-07-2002 05:58									#24
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Or here at Apolyton

	07-07-2002 06:00									#25
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He was... almost (?) invited by Mike or Dan. I can't remember which. I think Mike. He is actually a great fan of Sid's and the Firaxians seem very willing to overlook his 'outbursts'. Most of them anyways.

He is supposed to check his back pack at the door though.

	07-07-2002 07:58									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Sheik any citizen should be able to post a poll or thread on anything he wants whenever he wants. The official polls will say OFFICIAL. Everyone has a right to be heard. This is like saying television stations cant poll citizens before real presidential elections because it may influence the way people vote. Campaigning and polling are both parts of any elections. If this is going to be a democracy game then the people have a right to be heard.

you are 100% correct. yes there will be people who lie, or abstain, but this is unofficial[/I]. it will give some idea of how the election will turn out. why all the negativity? there is nothing wrong with this poll...

	07-07-2002 08:01									#27
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Because if people see the current vote and say "hey, this guy is winning by a lot, my vote won't matter anyways, screw it, I'm not voting anymore", then that is affecting how things will end up. And if many people make that decision, then the election could end up skewed.

	07-07-2002 08:04									#28
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no people will say that. it doesnt work that way in america, or any other country for that matter. it is close anyways...

	07-07-2002 08:06									#29
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How do you know? I know in many instances where people have just not voted because they didn't think their vote would matter. And regarding the close poll, we're talking about the acceptability of this kind of poll overall, not just this one.

	07-07-2002 08:11									#30
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there is nothing against this in polling standards or the constitution, nor should there be!