13-07-2002 03:02									#1
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This is the election for our President.

Query:
Who should be our next President?

Candidates:
Trip (UFC)
Ninot (DIA)

End:
5 Days, July 16th 2002

	13-07-2002 03:03									#2
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Why I feel I should be President of Apolytonia:
I have the definite experience of the job, and I know how things have been run. I helped create the system we have currently, I know it inside and out. I'm a dedicated, hard-working individual who puts hours every day into making this game a better place. Basically: I know what's going on, what the problems are, and how to fix them. If I'm reelected, then that's what I will have the chance to do.

Why I want to be President of Apolytonia:
I feel that it is my mission here to help guide our nation into the future. I’ve already begun helping to form the foundation of this country, defined this job, and done more than my part to set things up. I wish to continue to do that, until we are firmly founded, and Apolytonia can look to the future.

Good luck to all candidates. May we run and serve with honor!

	13-07-2002 05:47									#3
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Why should you vote for me:

Well I am a candidate who has proven his worth in another office. Given the opportunity, I will meet and most likely surpass your expectations. I will put all of my efforts into making this game the best it can be. And that will be good, very good.

What will you get that you might not already have?

A vote for Ninot is a vote for a pleasant tommorow, which means I am very easy to work with. I am a great listenener and i never shoot down an idea before its worth can be heard. To that point, I respect everyone on these forums and am pleasant enough to work with that working with the president will be easier with me.

The perks?
As Timeline has pointed out numerous times, we can work EXTREMELY well as a team. With him as VP, and me as President, you can be guaranteed constant chatting about how to get this nation into a better state of being. And with this team, you can be guaranteed a constant fluidity both on the forums and most definately in turnchats.

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	13-07-2002 05:52									#4
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I think that a change of leadership now would do nothing but harm, though I believe both candidates are equally qualified.

	13-07-2002 06:16									#5
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker I think that a change of leadership now would do nothing but harm, though I believe both candidates are equally qualified.

A change in leadership, IMO, would do nothing but good. I know that Ninot is equal to Trip, if not better, and I firmly believe that we should give him a chance.

	13-07-2002 06:37									#6
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Just to be different, I think a change of leadership would do nothing but good and bad. But I'm for it anyway.

	13-07-2002 06:43									#7
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I wish I knew how parties are organized

	13-07-2002 07:06									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Citizen Kane I wish I knew how parties are organized

You should join one and find out .

The DIA is very organized http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=53703

	13-07-2002 07:08									#9
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Citizen Kane - they're not.

	13-07-2002 07:11									#10
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Don't listen to Timeline. He's a DIA whore

	13-07-2002 07:16									#11
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LordImpact - do you still say that you don't vote along party lines?

	13-07-2002 07:19									#12
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I was just joking. That's why theres a wink at the end.

	13-07-2002 07:30									#13
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I wish I had been around longer, so I could make an informed choice, but I guess reading the Presidential Campaign Thread will have to do...

	13-07-2002 09:05									#14
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this'll prove whos party has the most clout probably, what with it being UFC vs DIA. so far its DIA but it might change.

Bet's nebody.

	13-07-2002 09:08									#15
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Like I have said previously, I would rather this be an election for the candidates rather than the parties.

If people wanna vote for parties, I cant stop that. But Its more degrading to ALL party-member candidates if they are only being voted for because they belong to a group.

	13-07-2002 10:41									#16
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I agree. Consider Kramerman a stoic Independent who will excercise his right to vote with excessive authority... in other words ya gotta buy this vote like a three-legged whore my friends, a three-legged whore.

Kman

	13-07-2002 10:47									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Kramerman I agree. Consider Kramerman a stoic Independent who will excercise his right to vote with excessive authority... in other words ya gotta buy this vote. Kman

*Cracks his knuckles*

In that case....

As has been said previously, I have the experience to do the job. I have the motivation. I'm running for President because I feel that it is my obligation to continue to help constructing the foundations of this nation. Also, we are in a very critical time here. I feel that the only way a smooth transition can take place is if our executives stay the same. Pressing times are in the near future, and we need to keep things rolling on the same track, and not try to shift them over to another one in mid stride.

	13-07-2002 10:47									#18
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Three legs? does that go for an extra $50?

Consider this. I almost WENT independant. I value nothing more than an independant mind. Party politics are destructive truly. What we need the most is constant debate and fresh ideas, not people afraid of losing their party's support before the next election.

If you vote for me, I guarantee you that I will work for every person in this nation, not just my party or my agenda.

	13-07-2002 11:04									#19
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Ninot BY FAR appears to be the most balanced and promising candidate here.

We have had trouble with our current President making and playing all our turn chats, so a change for the better would be welcome.

Also, Trip is a diehard Partymonger. I know Ninot, I talk with him all the time. He doesn't put up with party crap. He is one of the most rational and reasonable people I know, he would make an excellent leader!

	13-07-2002 11:16									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline Ninot BY FAR appears to be the most balanced and promising candidate here.

Why Linney, I'm surprised you'd say such a thing.

quote: We have had trouble with our current President making and playing all our turn chats, so a change for the better would be welcome.

You mean, the President isn't supposed to schedule and play the game during a turnchat. No one told me. A pity we all voted on the time and date of the turnchats. I'm such a dictator, neh?

quote: Also, Trip is a diehard Partymonger. I know Ninot, I talk with him all the time. He doesn't put up with party crap. He is one of the most rational and reasonable people I know, he would make an excellent leader!

Since when was I a diehard partymonger? I've voted for 3 or 4 DIA candidates this time, simply because I felt they were better, or more qualified. Can you actually prove what you say, or is it just another random attack? Just because you don't talk to me (all you do is try to poke fun in a manner that attacks me, hiding your meaning in it), doesn't mean that I'm not an fair or honest person. Your attacks are unecassary and clearly biased.

	13-07-2002 11:28									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Timeline Also, Trip is a diehard Partymonger.

Pot, meet kettle... Your crew are beginning to give parties a bad name.

	13-07-2002 11:29									#22
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Look, I see that you are both highly qualified candidates, so, as the tie breaker... the first one to wire mean 100 dollars american in untracable digital code (and maybe an extra $50 for, uh, you know what ) will when my honost vote

Kman

	13-07-2002 11:30									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Kramerman Look, I see that you are both highly qualified candidates, so, as the tie breaker... the first one to wire mean 100 dollars american in untracable digital code (and maybe an extra $50 for, uh, you know what ) will when my honost vote Kman

Sorry, I can only pay in bananas.

	13-07-2002 11:39									#24
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quote: Why Linney, I'm surprised you'd say such a thing.

Why? You know how I feel about Ninot, I like him alot and I think he will do a better job. It's just my opinion, but I am entitled to it.

quote: You mean, the President isn't supposed to schedule and play the game during a turnchat. No one told me. A pity we all voted on the time and date of the turnchats. I'm such a dictator, neh?

Not at all. Perhaps you misunderstood my intent. You missed about 4 turnchats or so, did you not? That's all I was talking about.

No offense, and I understand things come up, I just want to see if Ninot can do it better, that's all.

quote: Since when was I a diehard partymonger? I've voted for 3 or 4 DIA candidates this time, simply because I felt they were better, or more qualified. Can you actually prove what you say, or is it just another random attack? Just because you don't talk to me (all you do is try to poke fun in a manner that attacks me, hiding your meaning in it), doesn't mean that I'm not an fair or honest person. Your attacks are unecassary and clearly biased.

Mainly based on your comments. You have admitted to being a party monger in the past, why bother hiding now?

I'm not trying to toss dirt here. I simply stated my opinion of being in favor of Ninot and now I am accused of being biased based on parties.

I am biased toward Ninot, as an individual, not party, because I talk with him in chats and believe he can do an excellent job . . .

No need to get upset or disgruntled.

	13-07-2002 11:43									#25
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Jesus! what is this, an IM we got going here. Don't you guys sleep or something. God knows I dont...

Kman

	13-07-2002 13:23									#26
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Hm. Not a topped poll, unlike all the others.

And I agree with nye in another thread - the one place that should be sacrosanct and free of party politicking is the polling booth; namely here!

Can we look into this in the future? Politics can be fun, but it gets tiresome if you DON'T want to read all this repetitive nonsense and find it is EVERYwhere.

C'mon people. How hard is it to have a campaign thread for this? That way, when you come here, it is only to vote or for the candidates to restate their objectives.

	13-07-2002 13:33									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Trip You mean, the President isn't supposed to schedule and play the game during a turnchat. No one told me. A pity we all voted on the time and date of the turnchats. I'm such a dictator, neh?

Oh, and whoever said the people couldn't be wrong, Trip?

If elected, I hope both candidates are willing to look into the reasons not all that many turn up to the turnchats. This may be good in order to find out whether there is a time reason, or whether it is just the normal waning of interest, and thus whether anything can be done about it.

* MrWhereItsAt hopes for an hour earlier, on different days: ANYTHING

	13-07-2002 13:34									#28
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Why isn't this thread stickied?

Edited: To make more sense.

Last edited by Comrade Tassadar on 13-07-2002 at 13:42

	13-07-2002 14:28									#29
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I move that campaign discussions be outlawed from official election threads.

	13-07-2002 15:47									#30
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You probably all realize this, but it was Trip who began aggressively campaigning first, thereby driving Ninot to do the same.

I was just stating my views as a voter in this poll, which most other citizens do also.

quote: Originally posted by Mr. President I move that campaign discussions be outlawed from official election threads.

Don't just say it. If you really feel strongly this way make a discussion thread about it followed by a poll.