17-07-2002 17:12									#1
	why dont we have these kind of things in Greece? do you have this in your country? Tired of ads?

The U.S. government has returned to its old ways of bursting budgets and so New York's landmark national debt clock lit up again on July 11, 2002 after a two-year hiatus, whizzing higher by $30 a second. A spatter of puzzled pedestrians stared up at a bustling corner near Times Square as workers switched on a massive 11-by-26-foot digital clock that had lay dormant for nearly two years. (Peter Morgan/Reuters)

	17-07-2002 17:14									#2
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Perhaps you (the Greeks) should take a loan to get yourselves a 'clock' like that

	17-07-2002 17:17									#3
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I wonder what the cost of upkeep on that sign is. They should build another one right next to it that monitors the electrical usage and updates it's own display showing the value of it and each American's share.

We could pay that one off in no time...

	17-07-2002 17:19									#4
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In America, we enjoy the freedom to display the stupidity of our leaders.

	17-07-2002 17:22									#5
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In Austria, we don't need anything to display the stupidity of our leaders but themselves.

	17-07-2002 17:24									#6
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they go on parade with it?

	17-07-2002 17:25									#7
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All the time.

	17-07-2002 17:25									#8
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way a sec, I thought that the US government was making money?

	17-07-2002 17:26									#9
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Well, here in Brazil the numbers would have to be updated at such a high speed that no one would be able to see them, anyway.

	17-07-2002 17:27									#10
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you might want to 5$ billion to that number

quote: Turkey Qualifies Support for U.S. ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey has agreed to back the United States if it takes military action to topple Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites) but has asked that Washington write off $5 billion in debt and guarantee that Kurds would not be given an independent state, according to news reports Wednesday.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...us_19&printer=1

	17-07-2002 17:27									#11
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Australians can't count that high anyway.

	17-07-2002 17:28									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Dalgetti way a sec, I thought that the US government was making money?

apparently it's not

$30/sec!

	17-07-2002 17:33									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Dalgetti way a sec, I thought that the US government was making money?

War time governments rarely if ever run a surplus.

	17-07-2002 17:34									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Roland In Austria, we don't need anything to display the stupidity of our leaders but themselves.

I propose a trade...your stupid leaders for the scoundrels and thieves we have for leaders

	17-07-2002 17:34									#15
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG you might want to 5$ billion to that number quote: Turkey Qualifies Support for U.S. ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey has agreed to back the United States if it takes military action to topple Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites) but has asked that Washington write off $5 billion in debt and guarantee that Kurds would not be given an independent state, according to news reports Wednesday. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...us_19&printer=1

5$ Billions here, 5$ Billions there... pretty soon we're going to be talking real money.

	17-07-2002 17:34									#16
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Well we have enough trouble to lower our debts...

	17-07-2002 17:35									#17
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$ 30/sec ?

Estimated deficit is 165 billion $ (good deal higher if you exclude the socsec surplus).

~5000/second

Did I miss something ?

	17-07-2002 17:35									#18
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how about the Gulf War?

	17-07-2002 17:35									#19
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Yes, we have a national debt.

We can let Greeks pay part of it if they really want to have one.

	17-07-2002 17:36									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc War time governments rarely if ever run a surplus.

Oh, my poor monneypenny. and considering the war on terrorism will be a long one...

I predict a wave of immigration to latin america if things are like this.

	17-07-2002 17:40									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Sloth I propose a trade...your stupid leaders for the scoundrels and thieves we have for leaders

Well their cronyism is annoying, but quite cheap overall. I'd loath replacing that with anything more expensive....

And are you telling me there that your politicians are not stupid ?

	17-07-2002 17:49									#22
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Many are stupid...but some are not stupid they are villains.
But I don't want to hijack this thread...I will start a Berlusconi thread maybe.
On the debt we are much better now: with the € the total figure lost three zeros and it seems much more palatable

	17-07-2002 20:56									#23
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I bet the lead post is a US knock, without looking at it....

Looked, right again.

They are still working on getteing power in Greece, so such a clock still wouldn't be practical Mark.

	17-07-2002 21:27									#24
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"how about the Gulf War?" 101 billion. (91 figure)


Ya were back in the deficit. But I guess we sort of had too. As long as it isnt 500 billion and in the 2-5% range its not a problem. Its paid back when things get better.

	17-07-2002 21:28									#25
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc War time governments rarely if ever run a surplus.

When did the US declare war?

	17-07-2002 21:32									#26
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War on drugs, remember?

	17-07-2002 21:34									#27
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Ya were back in the deficit. But I guess we sort of had too. As long as it isnt 500 billion and in the 2-5% range its not a problem. Its paid back when things get better.

We'll see the 500 billion number (which would be about 5 %; not sure if your range is preceded by an "is" or "is not".)

	17-07-2002 21:42									#28
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chris,

opoios exei ti miga migiazetai

but really, you consider Reuters and Yahoo to making attacks on the US? I just copied them without any comment

	17-07-2002 21:48									#29
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG I just copied them without any comment

We thank you for the small favor.

	17-07-2002 21:48									#30
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG chris, opoios exei ti miga migiazetai but really, you consider Reuters and Yahoo to making attacks on the US? I just copied them without any comment

psarevo me petonia