19-07-2002 20:32									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: it's true we fought our share of wars and they were plenty but we never invaded a foreign land. So you disown Alexander the Great when it suits you to?

No I don't, I was speaking of the modern Greek State, i.e. after 1827.

	19-07-2002 20:34									#122
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Modern Greek State? Well that's no fun.

Then the modern Turkish state only attacked Cyprus, and that was to prevent those evil Greeks from killing the Turkish minority .

	19-07-2002 20:40									#123
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Did I miss something? I never saw Greek invasion forces that landed at night, then went on to loot, kill and destroy?! There are still a lot of people unaccounted it for in Cyprus and you should know about it since there are still Americans MIA in Vietnam! By the way I think that them landing there actually doomed the poor turks that live on the island since that half is still very backwards.

	19-07-2002 20:42									#124
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Sheedag anooneh BOLIS'eh

	19-07-2002 20:46									#125
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What does that mean?

	19-07-2002 21:36									#126
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Actually the Greek forces were very nationalistic on the island. They spoke like Milosevic spoke before he was able to mass exterminate 'others'. The Turks, rightly, feared for their lives.

	19-07-2002 21:42									#127
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I voted Byzantium because:
1. Istanbul is an Islamic name given to the city by those b4stard turks.
2. Constantinople is the name given by the Roman Emperor that was chiefly responsible for the spread of Christianity.
3. Byzantium just sounds cooler.

	19-07-2002 21:43									#128
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quote: Istanbul is an Islamic name given to the city

It actually has it's origins in Greek.

	19-07-2002 21:45									#129
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So, Islam's origins are from Judaism and Christianity, what's your point? Should anything Islamic be referred to as Jewish or Christian? That would surely piss a lot of Ahmed's off. It was given by the Turks, the Turks are Islamic, hence, Islamic name.

	19-07-2002 21:51									#130
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No, I mean... we discussed this.

Istanbul comes from a kind-of messed transliteration of the Greek saying 'to the city'.

	19-07-2002 21:53									#131
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oh sorry, I didn't read it, my bad...

	19-07-2002 22:12									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Actually the Greek forces were very nationalistic on the island. They spoke like Milosevic spoke before he was able to mass exterminate 'others'. The Turks, rightly, feared for their lives.

Very true, there was some tough nationalistic talk but there's a big difference between that and an invasion!? Fact of history is that Greece never really was aggressive. We never just walked into another land (Hitler in Poland, States in Somalia, UK in half the known world, etc.).

Anyway, if you really ask me they can keep what they have and stop the territorial claims they have of Greece. As for the Cypriot matter I think that the Cypriots are pretty capable themselves and should solve it on their own and with the help of the intl community and organisations. It's a pity though that we have blue helmets down there well over 25 years now. Which actually shows the lack of will for the intl community and America to give critical solutions.

	19-07-2002 22:27									#133
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Hey everyone I found the flag Paikti salutes, (thanks to GS for letting me use his webpage for storage). Pattycakes is so right wing and so racist he prefers this flag. Paitki salutes the greek flag with an alteration:

	19-07-2002 22:27									#134
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paiktis means player

	19-07-2002 22:27									#135
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quote: Originally posted by The Pioneer What does that mean?

The correct name is Constantinople.

	19-07-2002 22:32									#136
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and that flag is ban-able

	19-07-2002 22:35									#137
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Byzanbulople!

	19-07-2002 22:36									#138
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now I figure why that takes so long to load... it's a bitmap

Greek Heil

	19-07-2002 22:36									#139
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If the mods want to take away the flag, let them, I'll e-mail him the pic. Paitki has called me a murderer, a torture supporter, a fascist, he has questioned my humanity, he has called you a nazi. Paikti goes far enough with his insults and posted enough racist stuff this flag suits him well.

	19-07-2002 22:38									#140
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that's just paiktis. obviously, "insult" and "argument" share a word in Greek.

	19-07-2002 22:39									#141
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Don't forget, he called me Taliban .

	19-07-2002 22:40									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion that's just paiktis. obviously, "insult" and "argument" share a word in Greek.

Unfortunetly I think you might be right.

	19-07-2002 22:40									#143
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heh, I knew someone would appreciate a joke from me these days

no go and contribute to the ultimate spamfest in my flash file thread.

	19-07-2002 22:42									#144
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paitkis just knee-jerk lashes out in the most vicious manner he can when you argue with him. Once you get used to it, he's not all that bad...

	19-07-2002 22:44									#145
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I had him on ignore for weeks after he glorified WWII victims from which ever side.. he should be restricted for being obnoxious

	19-07-2002 22:45									#146
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quote: no go and contribute to the ultimate spamfest in my flash file thread.

But I never spam .

Pattycakes isn't used to being told 'No'. I think his mommy spoiled him.

	19-07-2002 22:48									#147
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Pattycakes?

, he is now that forevermore. Ming, next time he gets restricted, I will petition you to change his username to Pattycakes officially as punishment.

	19-07-2002 22:59									#148
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he must be the man with the most inofficial names here

	19-07-2002 23:24									#149
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Boris, I've always refered to him as Pattycakes... it fits so well, doesn't it?

	20-07-2002 00:06									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich The correct name is Constantinople.

What language?