22-07-2002 05:54									#1
	A new idea: a roll-playing nes Support Apolyton

Hey, this idea is influenced by the demo game.

How it works

For each country 5 players will be assinged: Leader, Science advisor, Military advisor, Domestic advisor, Population. The president will play the "normal role in a nes; making up the story, negociating with otyer players ect. But now they muct anserw to their advisors and their people.

ROLES

Leader: His/her role is somwhat explained above. He/she will actually do th negociating, write the story ect. The story can just be about how they are negociating with other leaders, or about how there was a horrible explsion a the testing of their space program. The space program will like ly cause alot of problem with the people, and maybe even with the science advisor " i told you it was risky" type thing.

Science advisor: He/she will be the person the president will have to anserw to after giving away the secrets to the new hovercrafts or something like that. All of his/her posts should be in story fourm just for the sake of seperating this game from the demo game. The advisor should advise the leader in new fields of reaserch, and trading technologies. But he/she will not actually have a say in what the leader does ( its could be a type of leader who listens to his advisors, doing what is best for his people. Or it could be a crazy lunatic, with no goal other that total world domination).

Military advisor: This is the stategist of the nation. The president will have to anserw to him/her after giving the go ahead to attack, when he was supposed to halt the aggresion. This person will advise the leader of what to do, what units shoudl be built, where the biggest garrisons are needed ect. But he/she will not actually have a say in what the leader does ( its could be a type of leader who listens to his advisors, doing what is best for his people. Or it could be a crazy lunatic, with no goal other that total world domination).

Domestic advisor: He/she is the person in charge of homeland projects. This person is who the leader will have to ansewr to after forcing his citizens thorugh week of labour at minimum pay. This is the person the leader will have to anserw to when the people start riotiong because there is no schools, chuches, hospitals ect. But he/she will not actually have a say in what the leader does ( its could be a type of leader who listens to his advisors, doing what is best for his people. Or it could be a crazy lunatic, with no goal other that total world domination).

The people: These are the backbone of the population. No nation can suceed unless its population is fully behind it. These are the people that block the major highway because of a war they do not wish to participate in. These are the people that bring in the income for the nation, pay the taxes ect. But he/she will not actually have a say in what the leader does ( its could be a type of leader who listens to his advisors, doing what is best for his people. Or it could be a crazy lunatic, with no goal other that total world domination).

Five people per nation. Its might take a while to get used to, but doesnt every good thing.




Example of a Military advisor's post.

I (trickey) wil be the miliatry advisor.

Trickey woke up this moring to the usual. His butler ringing a bell and opening the curtains to his giant mansion. He got up, had a shower, then walked down his tiger skin stairs to read the newspaper. "Ahh yes" he thought to himself, remembering the battle that was supposed to take place last night. It was a sure win, he didnt even stay up to make sure everything was going right. He oppend the paper, then shouted at the incompetence of his leader. " Americans use 19th century style infantry in a war vs. English modern armour." was the title in the paper. "Damnit" he cursed. I said "make sure you move the ninetinth armour divison nothwords instantly .

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You should feel free to tell the story as you please. From any point of view. I chose mine from the third person, you could tell it from the first. Its completely up to you.

The person controlling the people will tell the story either from one person's view, or telling the story of a huge riot that took place at town hall this morning.


[I]I dont know if we have enogh regular nes player around here to fill all these positions. I urge anyone who watches nes, but hesitates to join, to come out and play this one! The more the merrier. I will not criticise anyone for not knowing something, and i surely dont think anyone else will.

Please put in bold letters the name of your country at the top of your post. All postts from advisors to leaders are considered secret unless made over t.v. , radio ect.

Last edited by trickey on 22-07-2002 at 06:41

	22-07-2002 06:17									#2
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United North America

light blue

Army: huge

Navy: Large

Airforce: Huge

Governement: Democracy

Leader: The Bloody Baro

Advisor of external affairs: thrusters_back

Advisor of internal affairs: ?

People: ?



Mexico

Light green (controlling all south america)

Army: Large

Navy: Medium

Airforce: Medium

Governement: Communism

Leader:?

Advisor of External affairs: ?

Advisor of Internal Affairs: ?

People: ?


Egypt

Yellow ( controlling all Africa)

Army: Large

Navy: Small

Airforce: Large

Governement: Monarchy

Leader: ?

Advisor of external affairs: ?

Advisor of internal affairs: ?

People : ?


United Nations of Europe

Red

Army: Huge

Navy: Huge

Airforce: Huge

Governement: Anarchy

Leader: Cinna

Advisor of External Affairs: giovanni_wine

Advisor of Internal Affairs: ?

People: civman2000


Great Britain

Pink ( controlling Greenland, the British ilse and Australia

Army: Medium

navy: Gigantic

Airforce: Large

governement : Democracy

Leader: ?

Advisor of external affairs: ?

Advisor of Internal Affairs: ?

People:?


Russia

Grey

Army: Huge

Navy: Large

Airforce: Large

Governement: Communism

leader: ?

Advisor of External Affairs: ?

Advisor of Internal Affairs: ?

People: ?


Arabian Empire

Dark Green

Army: Large

Navy: medium

Airforce: large

Governement: Fundamentalism

Advisor of Internal Affairs: ?

Advisor of external affairs: ?

People: Space05us


China and Japan ( i dont know what to call it)

Maroon ( i think)

Army: Huge

Navy: Large

Airfoce: Large

Governement: Communism

Leader: ?

Advisor of External Affairs: trickey

Advisor of Internal Affairs: ?

People: ?

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As you can see, this isnt for the player who wants a Risk type game like Uknes2. This game should focus on story telling.

As you can also most likely tell, i had to drasticly cut down on the number of civs, just because i dont think there would be enough people for any more ( we will be hard pushed to get enogh for this).

The official map is civman's 2nd map. Its somewhere down the thread

PLEASE COME PLAY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

Last edited by trickey on 24-07-2002 at 05:36

	22-07-2002 06:17									#3
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lol, demo game meets NES...this could be fun. If more people want to do it i will.

	22-07-2002 06:20									#4
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tip: make maps gifs, not jpegs. ANd could you use more varying colors? If you want i might be able to approximately caopy your map but with different borders for everyone

	22-07-2002 06:24									#5
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sure civman, i need all the help with maps i can get. You know i have a histoy of crappy maps

	22-07-2002 16:40									#6
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Btw, i havent thought of a story yet. Any ideas?

	22-07-2002 17:07									#7
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quote: He/she will be the person the president will have to anserw to after giving away the secrets to the new hovercrafts or something like that

memories.....



I'll join as the people for someone.

	22-07-2002 17:13									#8
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I'll try to have my version of your map up asap.

I think the problem will be not having enough people. HOwever, if we decrease the number of countries a bit, it might work.

	22-07-2002 17:59									#9
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my version of the map:

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	22-07-2002 18:45									#10
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Thanks alot civman. What coutry's should be dropped? Hmmm.....

Space, what country do you want to be the people for?

	22-07-2002 19:04									#11
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Can I be the military advisor for Britain? I never like being the guy in charge. However I'm in my prime in carrying out orders. So can I trickey?

	22-07-2002 19:28									#12
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Russia I guess. how do you get the flags?

	22-07-2002 20:46									#13
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quote: Originally posted by trickey Thanks alot civman. What coutry's should be dropped? Hmmm..... Space, what country do you want to be the people for?

probably by making a United Europe country instead of 4 different ones

You could also do a United North America that includes Canada, USA

something like that could work, as there would still be 8-9 different countries:
Europe
North America
Mexico
Iraq
Egypt
China (you may give to them Japan)
Japan (you can put thm in China)
India
Russia

But it would be still very hard to find 5 people per 9 nation... 45 people.... uhmmmm
it is still too much

Anyway: I wish to join as Science Advisor or Domestic Advisor for whatever country

Saluti

	23-07-2002 02:13									#14
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I'm in ............................................
USA
Militairy advisor

	23-07-2002 03:31									#15
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Possibly less people could be used per team (3 maybe) so we could start earlier..... I'll take anything. maybe if you unite Europe (Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Scandanavia) I could do something with that.

	23-07-2002 04:21									#16
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i'll be the people for someone

	23-07-2002 04:26									#17
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My version of decreasing number:
1. Merge Us and Canada.
2. Merge Continental Europe (britain still separate).
3. Merge India and Iraq.
4. Merge China and Japan.

This leaves:
NAF
Mexico
United Europe
Britain
Russia
Egypt
India
Japan

8 civs...still too many.

How about only 4 people:
1. Prez
2. Internal Affairs Minister--science + domestic
3. External Affairs Minister--diplomacy, war.
4. People

That means only 32 people are needed, which might be attainable.

	23-07-2002 05:09									#18
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hmmm 32 people wow! I like the ideas though. Civman, do you think you could please make a map of what you proposed

Please tell me what coutry you want to be from, as ill make a list so we will be easily able to tell who is open.

	23-07-2002 05:39									#19
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you could combind;
All of the southern Asian countries. (Japan included)
North America
and europe
that would leave 7 countries , and with 3 people for each country you would need 21.
edit:
3 people
Leader
Advisor
People
not as interesting with just one advisr but more realisitic.

	23-07-2002 16:17									#20
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I think it wouldn't be much fun with only one advisor.

I'd like to be the people of Egypt.

map with my proposed changes:

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	23-07-2002 17:00									#21
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I changed my mind I'll be the people for that big green thing in asia

I plan on causing havoc
((don't worry the people can't have nukes...or can they??))

	23-07-2002 19:24									#22
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Okay I saw the changes so can I be the external affairs minister for Britian?

	23-07-2002 19:25									#23
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yep, but its not just britain, its all europe.

	23-07-2002 19:33									#24
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quote: Originally posted by trickey United North America light blue Army: huge Navy: Large Airforce: Huge Governement: Democracy Leader: ? Advisor of external affairs: thrusters_back Advisor of internal affairs: ? People Mexico Light green (controlling all south america) Army: Large Navy: Medium Airforce: Medium Governement: Communism Leader:? Advisor of External affairs: ? Advisor of Internal Affairs: ? People: ? Egypt Yellow ( controlling all Africa) Army: Large Navy: Small Airforce: Large Governement: Monarchy Leader: ? Advisor of external affairs: ? Advisor of internal affairs: ? People : civman2000 United Nations of Europe Red Army: Huge Navy: Huge Airforce: Huge Governement: Anarchy Leader: Cinna Advisor of External Affairs: bloody baro Advisor of Internal Affairs: ? People: ? Russia Grey Army: Huge Navy: Large Airforce: Large Governement: Communism leader: ? Advisor of External Affairs: ? Advisor of Internal Affairs: ? People: ? Arabian Empire Dark Green Army: Large Navy: medium Airforce: large Governement: Fundamentalism Advisor of Internal Affairs: ? Advisor of external affairs: ? People: Space05us China and Japan ( i dont know what to call it) Maroon ( i think) Army: Huge Navy: Large Airfoce: Large Governement: Communism Leader: ? Advisor of External Affairs: trickey Advisor of Internal Affairs: ? People: ? -------------- As you can see, this isnt for the player who wants a Risk type game like Uknes2. This game should focus on story telling. As you can also most likely tell, i had to drasticly cut down on the number of civs, just because i dont think there would be enough people for any more ( we will be hard pushed to get enogh for this). The official map is civman's 2nd map. Its somewhere down the thread PLEASE COME PLAY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

Wheres Great Britain? Well since they got booted I'd like to switch to Leader of NAF.

	23-07-2002 19:37									#25
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Hey trickey I didn't see your post about it being all of Europe so can I still be the leader of the North American Federation? I promise it will be my last switch of the game.

	23-07-2002 19:42									#26
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o crap, sorry, i forgot to put britain in. they arnt part of United Europe. Ill put you down as external affairs minister of Britain untill you tell me otherwise.

	23-07-2002 19:46									#27
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No trickey. I want to be leader of the North American Federation. Please switch it if you can.

	23-07-2002 19:49									#28
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OK Baro, its np.

	23-07-2002 21:01									#29
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United Nations of Europe


internal affairs minister

The time for half measures is over. This Anarchy has gone on long enough. This revolution has turned into a civil war. The current government is weak and will fall soon. With Cinna and the Bloody Baro, I will crush the traitors who have dared invade their own motherland. Any soldiers who refuse to execute fellow countrymen will suffer the same fate. The United Nations of Europe must combat the anarchy, the plague, that has infected our country. What is left of the UNE army will mass at Berlin. My fellow minister must get help from London, financial and industrial. With help from Britain and other countries, our strenghtened army will march forth, crush feuding opposition and unite our nation which was once so proud, and mighty.

	23-07-2002 22:38									#30
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((OOC: jdd if you askin for my help I'm the NAF now.))