22-07-2002 22:25									#1
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http://toogoodreports.com/column/ge...es/20020722.htm

Read up and take note...
This guy has a grasp on things...

	22-07-2002 22:26									#2
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You misspelled women.

	22-07-2002 22:28									#3
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No the author did and he did so for a reason.

	22-07-2002 22:43									#4
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quote: A proposed law in Sweden wants wall urinals banned in men's restrooms because for a male to stand is a symbol of male dominance — an outgrowth of sexual harassment legislation in America. This proposal is illustrative of the irrational pettiness to which 'female victimization' can and does sink.

	22-07-2002 22:51									#5
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Next thing, there will be women-only restrooms! What is this world coming to?!

	22-07-2002 23:05									#7
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I still can't fathom it - if the feminist movement wanted to change the spelling of 'woman', why did they choose such a freakingly ugly new spellin? Couldn't it have been "Womon" or something?

	22-07-2002 23:32									#8
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SHould have gotten a whole new word, like "Steve".

	22-07-2002 23:48									#9
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That would have made the statement "God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" useless.

More useless.

	22-07-2002 23:52									#10
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This is a tempest in a teapot. While thousands of individual men may be screwed over, by far and away, men still control the world. We aren't even close to a society that oppresses men.

	22-07-2002 23:57									#11
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That law is "proposed". You'd be amazed at the sort of things that get proposed but not passed.

Some of those "Jane Roe" comparisons are hilarious, though to me they're funny in ways that blackice wouldn't find. Take this as an example.

quote: Militia (Military): Jim Crow law: The white and colored militia shall be separately enrolled, and shall never be compelled to serve in the same organization. No organization of colored troops shall be permitted where white troops are available, and while whites are permitted to be organized, colored troops shall be under the command of white officers. Jane Roe law: The sexually integrated armed forces that have been de-facto ordered to represent the feminist perspective in command decisions and training

Now they're hardly similar, are they? Was the author panicking that military strategy would be compelled to include sessions for all soldiers to talk about knitting, periods and really nice shoes?

	22-07-2002 23:59									#12
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Could someone explain this one?

quote: Amateur (collegiate) Baseball: Jim Crow law: It shall be unlawful for any amateur white baseball team to play baseball on any vacant lot or baseball diamond within two blocks of a playground devoted to the Negro race, and it shall be unlawful for any amateur colored baseball team to play baseball in any vacant lot or baseball diamond within two blocks of any playground devoted to the white race. Jane Roe law: Title IX has decimated male athletic teams at the college level by proscribing separate but statistically equal sex proportions in all collegiate athletics.

That "Jane Roe" is ambiguous as hell. Any suggestions?

	23-07-2002 00:01									#13
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quote: Education: Jim Crow law: Separate rooms [shall] be provided for the teaching of pupils of African descent, and [when] said rooms are so provided, such pupils may not be admitted to the school rooms occupied and used by pupils of Caucasian or other descent. Jane Roe law: Feminist inspired Women's Studies that exclude the masculine perspective — in fact, criminalize it and drive a wedge of suspicion and distrust between the sexes.

blackice- this is hilarious. This is a satire, isn't it?

	23-07-2002 00:09									#14
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara This is a tempest in a teapot. While thousands of individual men may be screwed over, by far and away, men still control the world. We aren't even close to a society that oppresses men.

I take Scott Adam's argument here:

"It is true that men hold the top jobs and positions in the world. However, only .0001 pecent of all men occupy these esteemed positions. 99.9999 percent of men have just as crappy of jobs as women do, but the men are made to feel guilty for the fact that the top spots are owned by people with similar chromosomes.

	23-07-2002 00:13									#15
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The bloke who wrote it is a PH.D! Someone reassure me that that's some sort of surname in an obscure Kalahari dialect.

	23-07-2002 00:17									#16
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Just don't forget to put the seat down.

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quote: Originally posted by Dan Severn I take Scott Adam's argument here: "It is true that men hold the top jobs and positions in the world. However, only .0001 pecent of all men occupy these esteemed positions. 99.9999 percent of men have just as crappy of jobs as women do, but the men are made to feel guilty for the fact that the top spots are owned by people with similar chromosomes.

Well, I'd turn his argument on its head. It's not that we're made to feel crappy because we share the same chromosomes with those in power but rather that we identify with those in power who share similar traits. His stat is also a little off. It's probably closer to 1 in 25 men hold positions of authority and power in commerce, politics, and religion. It's even greater if you include the most basic institution of the world, the family unit.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara This is a tempest in a teapot. While thousands of individual men may be screwed over, by far and away, men still control the world. We aren't even close to a society that oppresses men.

Will you say the same thing if you are one of those men that are screwed over? Be honest che.

Your kids live with her, not because your bad, but because you got the wrong judge or because moms are better.

You pay her money each and every month but if something comes up she is the one that can decide if you see the little ones this weekend or next or (depending on settlements) at all.

Your defense of women is admirable. But they aren't as fragile as they and others will have you believe.

No matter how much you suck up, your still just a man.

Oh and this is comming from a man that was raised by a single parent that happen to be good ole mom.

	23-07-2002 00:29									#19
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Should I start another thread for the poor, miserable, white, straight man who suffers worldwide persecution??

Part Two, perhaps??

	23-07-2002 00:31									#20
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While it might be good to be male, it's not good to be a white male. THAT's the issue.

thank god i ain't caucasian.

aside from that, it prolly would be better for all if we just all became unisex. might satisfy all them extremist feminists and what not.

i'll move to the moon before that happens, though.

pfeh... that urinal law... how stupid is that?

	23-07-2002 00:34									#21
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That would only be appropriate if it was prompted by something that wasn't so bizarre.

blackice- you say the author has a grasp on things? What are these "things"? Reality does not appear to be among them.

	23-07-2002 00:35									#22
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Should I start another thread for the poor, miserable, white, straight man who suffers worldwide persecution?? Part Two, perhaps??

If it makes you feel secure in your little world. Then by all means post away. I'm sure we will all enjoy spamming it.

	23-07-2002 00:40									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed While it might be good to be male, it's not good to be a white male. THAT's the issue. thank god i ain't caucasian. aside from that, it prolly would be better for all if we just all became unisex. might satisfy all them extremist feminists and what not. i'll move to the moon before that happens, though. pfeh... that urinal law... how stupid is that?

Which would be my best bet. Claim my Native American blood or my Irish blood. Has the Irish abused anyone or anything. (not counting alochol?)

	23-07-2002 00:42									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed While it might be good to be male, it's not good to be a white male. THAT's the issue.

Really!?! Wow, I never knew that. As a white male, I've only had relatively good things happen to me. I generally get the benefit of the doubt. Cops don't harrass me (except that once) even when they're searching every other person on the street, most of the people on TV look lik me, all of the leaders look like me, people respect what I'm saying, and I make **** loads of money when I'm working.

Man, life is tough.


Spryaber, if I got screwed over, I would be upset. But I wouldn't think, man, Men have it rough.

Men, especially, white men, squeal the loudest of any group when things don't go their way. It's ****ing embarassing at times. They refuse to acknowledge all of the good things they have, but if something goes wrong, they're all in arms about it. Get some damn perspective.

	23-07-2002 00:43									#25
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Save your spamming muscle, Sprayber. Let's have your comments on this quote instead.

quote: Last week for example, a middle-aged woman told me the sad tale of her son-in-law and his quest to stay in the life of his son by a prior relationship. And in that same week she told me of her dismay about a Dateline program whose subject was a man that is the victim of false paternity. Her dismay was occasioned because she took the side of this husband who found out that three of his four children do not share his DNA, and yet the Nightline host portrayed the promiscuous wife as the victim. And she said over and over of these two cases, "I just can't believe these things are happening ... I didn't know it was this bad."

Now am I missing something, or is this "Doctor" seriously attempting to use a second-hand and incomplete account of a TV programme he doesn't appear to have even seen, in order to reinforce his case? Why didn't he follow it up with quote references accredited to "a bloke down the pub my mate went to."?

	23-07-2002 00:43									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Which would be my best bet. Claim my Native American blood or my Irish blood. Has the Irish abused anyone or anything. (not counting alochol?)

Only outside of Ireland.

	23-07-2002 00:50									#27
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quote: Men, especially, white men, squeal the loudest of any group when things don't go their way. It's ****ing embarassing at times. They refuse to acknowledge all of the good things they have, but if something goes wrong, they're all in arms about it. Get some damn perspective.

psst. It's called human nature. You may find that other groups do what you have just described. Unless of course you think white men are fundementally less somehow.

	23-07-2002 00:52									#28
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Only outside of Ireland.

Native American it is then.

I forsee lots of hours under the tanning bed for me.

	23-07-2002 00:53									#29
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Winston: That quote, amusing as it is appears to be true. Apparently there actually is an anti-urinal movement in Sweden, Germany, Australia, and (God, help us all.) the US Navy.

	23-07-2002 00:54									#30
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Terrifying. One day they may achieve the same degree of power and relevance as the Flat Earth Society.