31-07-2002 04:03									#121
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From the Simpsons where Lisa sees her future marriage....

Homer brought Hue, Lisa's British fiance, to Moe's Tavern.

Moe: "We saved your ass in World War II!"
Hue: "We saved your ass in World War III!"
Moe: "Oh yeah, I forgot about that...."

I always liked that episode.

Kman

	31-07-2002 04:04									#122
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 bring it on

OK! Get ready, B1tch!

EDIT:

quote: I'm not defending the actions of the United States, merely stating facts.

I'll defend our actions.

	31-07-2002 04:06									#123
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 bring it on

I like how you constantly trash Americans, yet you constantly quote American music ( P.O.D.).

	31-07-2002 04:07									#124
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quote: Originally posted by nationalist I like how you constantly trash Americans, yet you constantly quote American music ( P.O.D.).

And you probably ware American clothes, play American video games, and watch American movies. Just to name a few things you probably do American

EDIT: Actually, most of the modern things you use, if they werent made in America, then their technology was probably at least developed here.

	31-07-2002 04:09									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Kramerman OK! Get ready, B1tch!

Damn straight d!ckhead

quote: I like how you constantly trash Americans, yet you constantly quote American music ( P.O.D.).

I like american music. Watcha gonna do stop me from listening to it? Or I shouldnt listen to it 'cause its "yours"?

Then you shouldnt use democracy, you shouldnt speak english, hell you shouldnt even exist

	31-07-2002 04:12									#126
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quote: I like american music. Watcha gonna do stop me from listening to it? Or I shouldnt listen to it 'cause its "yours"?

I think he is merely pointing out your hipocrisy of always trashing America (I wouldnt know if you do this, Im new to the off topic forum...) but you like American music.

	31-07-2002 04:19									#127
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already responded. burn some grey cells

	31-07-2002 04:21									#128
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to put it even more bluntly, someone likes Mozart. wouldnt he fight Germany in WW2?edit: hmm, no he was austrian. goethe then.


thing is we all borrow from eachother at some time.

you are constitued from borrowing most things if not everything from someone else.

	31-07-2002 04:24									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson Vietnam war wasn't taking place on American groung either... Vietnameese, thanks to your style of leading the war experienced very big casualities (I don't think it's a reason to boast that You killed so many civilians), but still they won. If America lost 2mln citizens...

We fought a war on our territory that costed at least 650,000 lives. It was called the Civil War. If I remember correctly, Civil War killed more Americans than all the WWI, WWII, Korean War, and Vietnam War combined. And Atlanta was completely destroyed during the war.

North Vietnam was very lucky that it got tremendous helps from both China and USSR. It also got a very smart leadership that understood how to exploit popular sentiment in a democratic state. They successfully painted the US government as the bully and the aggressor in their own people's eyes. It was war weariness that costed the US the war, not the military prowess of the NVA.

However, had the North Vietnamese been as stupid and violent as OBL, America would have fought them to the bitter end and would kick their butts into the ground, just like the Japanese some 25 years ago.

In a sense, you understand Americans just as little as the Japanese politicians 60 years ago. You probably think that Americans are wimps because we always care about our people's lives so much. But you fail to realize that if there is a cause for war, America and its people are the most dangerous and persistant enemy you will ever encounter.

	31-07-2002 04:35									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless We fought a war on our territory that costed at least 650,000 lives. It was called the Civil War. If I remember correctly, Civil War killed more Americans than all the WWI, WWII, Korean War, and Vietnam War combined. And Atlanta was completely destroyed during the war. North Vietnam was very lucky that it got tremendous helps from both China and USSR. It also got a very smart leadership that understood how to exploit popular sentiment in a democratic state. They successfully painted the US government as the bully and the aggressor in their own people's eyes. It was war weariness that costed the US the war, not the military prowess of the NVA. However, had the North Vietnamese been as stupid and violent as OBL, America would have fought them to the bitter end and would kick their butts into the ground, just like the Japanese some 25 years ago. In a sense, you understand Americans just as little as the Japanese politicians 60 years ago. You probably think that Americans are wimps because we always care about our people's lives so much. But you fail to realize that if there is a cause for war, America and its people are the most dangerous and persistant enemy you will ever encounter.

WELL SAID, Lord Merciless. *applaud*. You got the military/geopolitical implictions across exactly. And it is correct the statistic you gave about deaths in the Civil War.

	31-07-2002 05:59									#131
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Lord Merciless, you might be right, you might be wrong, we don't know. The problem is that no observation either confirms or denies your position. The US has never faced an invader on its native soil, unless you count the british...


Thus, I'd give my vote to the russians... How many were killed during ww2? 20 million? 30? And what percentage of teh population was that? 20%? Yet the fought on... Destroying their own land rather than let germany have it...

	31-07-2002 06:45									#132
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The idea of a "free-for-all" is pretty ridiculous. Why would all alliances break down simultaneously? The only way such a situation could happen is if a major network sponsored the thing as "reality TV" and every nation in the world just happened to be bored enough (there's nothing good on TV, ma) to go along.

Please define "win".

	31-07-2002 06:55									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Please define "win".

Gaining territory, gaining lost cities, gaining revenge, eliminating/reducing the threat etc etc

For you to understand, the definition of "win" would be the rooting out of Al Qaeda. There are always "wins". (and then they are never)

There's always cause for war.

And peace is so much more difficult anyway.

	31-07-2002 06:58									#134
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Gaining territory, gaining lost cities, gaining revenge, eliminating/reducing the threat etc etc For you to understand, the definition of "win" would be the rooting out Al Qaeda. There are always "wins". (and then they are never) There's always cause for war. And peace is so much more difficult anyway.

Sounds like someone's getting weary of all this peace.

	31-07-2002 07:00									#135
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Yeah, I mean, screw it

	31-07-2002 07:16									#136
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don't you guys wonder where we are? Yeah.. you go ahead and start the first wave and kill each other, we have planned our moves already! Don't worry about the bully raging all this and that.. worry about the silent guy.
We don't want to beat US first, because they could destroy some other big enemies first, but when it's their turn.. it's their turn. We just take of the batteries and it doesn't work anymore .
By then the world is already messed up, so we just unleash the army of 50 000 000 highly trained and equipped soldiers living underground. Our supersecret fighters will turn the world to us. Before that we destroy every satellite, or did you really think our components in some weather equipments were that innocent? .
And when it's over, santa claus will bring the heads of leaders of every country to us, as a christmas present.

	31-07-2002 07:22									#137
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you have 50.000.000 soldiers living underground?

wow

	31-07-2002 07:27									#138
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That's S-9 type of information, can't continue with facts. Let's just say... you never knew what happened.

	31-07-2002 07:31									#139
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S-9 no less.

what does that mean?

something important no doubt.

ok, my lips are sealed.

	31-07-2002 07:40									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove The idea of a "free-for-all" is pretty ridiculous. Why would all alliances break down simultaneously? The only way such a situation could happen is if a major network sponsored the thing as "reality TV" and every nation in the world just happened to be bored enough (there's nothing good on TV, ma) to go along. Please define "win".

It is merely a hypothetical situatin, Captain NoFun

	31-07-2002 07:43									#141
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Good, i know we can trust you paiktis. I think we could give you a job as a intel nco in our organization after the war. We'll establish our prison camp for POWs (but we don't really take them, so they are just to amuse us) to some of our nice islands, so you could be there.
You can do what you want, because you are a good sport, so that's like a present . I think we can even give you and your family a nice present after that.. like Malta or some other insignificant but nice place.

	31-07-2002 07:46									#142
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Malta is nice thanks

Can I organize basketball games with the POWs?

	31-07-2002 07:46									#143
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Hypothetically though if it was to be a free-for-all and no alliances, the big countries (USA, China, Russia, N-Korea, India, Pakistan etcetc) would launch a massive nuke operation, beucase they all know they're on the list of everyone elses nuke list. The goal would be to be the first to destroy everyone else, or be destroyed.
It would be Dr. Strangelove (the movie) times 100.

	31-07-2002 07:47									#144
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paiktis, what ever you want. Basketball, football, zorbas, what ever .
But just in case you come with the bigger outcome, I expect to get the same job in your army .

	31-07-2002 07:56									#145
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Sure, it's a deal

We have made a kick ass alliance here BTW. The first of the incoming WWIII no less.

Things are moving forward I can feel it.

edit: oops it's the second actually. We are now officially an "Axis". (takes three to tango here). Things are moving very fast.

	31-07-2002 08:08									#146
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BTW should I make the american POWs listen to Celin Dion night and day or does this violate some article of the Geneva Convention?

	31-07-2002 08:16									#147
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Hmm... I'm not quite sure. I don't know if americans turn out to be enemies in this war, but if they do, then yes. Also shania twains that don't impress me much 1000 times per day.

	31-07-2002 08:18									#148
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if they misbehave I might even let lose some Enrique Iglesias on them (but that might be a bit too cruel...)

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paiktis, you seem to be cruel! I'll have to remember that if we have to question someone. I'm sure Ricky Martin is mentioned in the Geneva Convention.

	31-07-2002 08:24									#150
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Yep. Ricky Martin and biochemical warfare are explicitly forbiden in the Convention.