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Originally posted by Frogger
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one or two at Mexico and Canada |
I'd say we rate at least a baker's dozen... |
No. We'd offer to target only Quebec, which would automatically bring the rest of canada on our side. We would then give the Quebecois "a whiff of grapeshot", which would be sufficient to convince them.
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Dr Strangelove
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Originally posted by Frogger
You have no idea what would happen then. Quebec already has an outpost of our WWII veterans planted deep within your territory...
Isn't US central command in Jacksonville or Tampa? Perfect. They can get there in their golf carts... |
Not to mention cheesey 1970s singers and actors.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:21
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
So you admit that we would kick your arse all over the country but that you would just keep taking until we got tired of delivering the beating and left. |
Of course not.
In case of nuclear warfare both of us will be destroyed.
If you’ll dare to invade us with conventional weapons, will kick your asses much harder then Vietnamese done. We are not Iraq, not Yugoslavia and even not a Vietnam, we are Rossiya. If you suckers think that if you in coalition with your lackeys won a couple of wars against ten time’s weaker opponents (a dozen vs. one (your favorite strategy)- it’s a honorable victory, no doubt ) then you are the greatest warriors in human history? 
Come here and we’ll teach you how to fight. I guess we only do a favor to world if we’ll give you a couple of lessons. You have no idea what it is- WAR. A real WAR, not your sandbox fights like Iraq or Vietnam, but a real WAR. War on your own territory… but it’s never too late to learn this lesson. Come and get us, we’ll smash you barbarian’s hordes and makes your beaten asses run to Washington D.C. And when our banner will wave over ruins of your senate, you’ll understand finally, what it is- “a quick campaign versus weak and pathetic Russia”.
Have a nice day
Last edited by Serb on 01-08-2002 at 10:54
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Kramerman
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UT, Austin - The live music capital of the world
Jun 2002
time: 23:21
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Welll, let's figure this out. The first and most dramatic thing that's going to happen in this WWW3 free-for-all is going to be the exchange of nuclear weapons. There are 8 nations currently in posssesion of nuclear weapons: US, Russia, China, UK, France, Israel, India and Pakistan. I believe that Russia is still in possesion of the nukes in the Ukraine and etc.
China will feel obligated to devote most of it's missles to Russia, with some being sent to India and Pakistan. A few might even be sent to the Koreas, Vietnam and Japan. Few if any of China's current missles can reach the US, though they might spare some for the bases in Guam, the Phillipines, Singapore and Hawaii. India will target China and Pakistan. Pakistan will target India and China. Israel will target its neighbors. France has some IRBMs, nuclear subs and bombs. Most of its weapons can only reach Europe and Russia, though it coul send its sub towards the US. Britain has bombs and subs. It can target Europe and Russia, and its subs might reach the US. Russia will certainly have to split its weaponry between China, the US and Europe. The US will hit Russia, China, Europe, and one or two at Mexico and Canada. The US has a real advantage in that it has no real competiton in its hemisphere. If the SOSUS line still works it might even be able to intercept some of the boomer subs sent towards it.
After the first day Russia and China will be very badly hit by nuclear crossfire. If this theoretical war is truly a free-for-all then Europe will be tearing itself apart. Africa will not really figure into the game. South Asia will also tear itself apart. Russian and Chinese forces will maul each other.
In the western hemisphere the situation will be greatly different. One or two nuclear strikes will quickly subdue America's neighbors. Texans with guns in pickup trucks will quickly overwhelm everything south of the Rio Grande. If the US Navy remains intact then the US will be in position to intervene to its own advantage in the struggles in Europe and South Asia. As the struggle between Russia and China comes to an exhausted end we'll step in and finish things off. |
I like this summery. Quite analytical, and possibly accurate.
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Texans with guns in pickup trucks will quickly overwhelm everything south of the Rio Grande. |
YEEEHAAAAWW!!!! Get down little dawggy. Move em up, rol em out!
You speak more truth than you know. My personal arsenal ( a .22 and a coupe boxes of ammo, oh yeah, and an air rifle) could probably single handedly lay waiste to the Glorious Mexican Army...
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europe would be with russia and china wouldnt do anything
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Bereta_Eder
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Originally posted by Kramerman
exactly, thats why i think it would be a waist of money for the US to build one.
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i agree with you.
and not onl;y that but it could lead to an arms race
the system might be good for one errant missile coming to u from say iraq but thats that.
in a massive nuclear war it will do no good.
also there is always the dirty bomb.
that system cannot block that one, and whoever has an interest at detonating radioactive material at you will fort sure use this option
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Main_Brain
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Economic World Center
Jul 2002
time: 06:21
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There would be two groups of Winners/Survivours
A) the Cockroaches
B) The Mighty Ants!!!
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Dry
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Brussels
Sep 2000
time: 06:21
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Originally posted by Lord Merciless
We fought a war on our territory that costed at least 650,000 lives. It was called the Civil War. If I remember correctly, Civil War killed more Americans than all the WWI, WWII, Korean War, and Vietnam War combined. And Atlanta was completely destroyed during the war.
North Vietnam was very lucky that it got tremendous helps from both China and USSR. It also got a very smart leadership that understood how to exploit popular sentiment in a democratic state. They successfully painted the US government as the bully and the aggressor in their own people's eyes. It was war weariness that costed the US the war, not the military prowess of the NVA.
However, had the North Vietnamese been as stupid and violent as OBL, America would have fought them to the bitter end and would kick their butts into the ground, just like the Japanese some 25 years ago.
In a sense, you understand Americans just as little as the Japanese politicians 60 years ago. You probably think that Americans are wimps because we always care about our people's lives so much. But you fail to realize that if there is a cause for war, America and its people are the most dangerous and persistant enemy you will ever encounter. |
Dear Lord, to understimate the others is a very, very common mistake. I cannot think of one single conqueror who didn't made that mistake.
I don't know one single people in the world that when humilated, accept to surrender. Americans didn't, Germans didn't, Vietnamese didn't, Algerians didn't, Russians didn't, Finns didn't and Pals don't.
Don't think Americans are different from other people, they are proud as any other people are.
If I wanted to paraphrase you, I would say that YOU are doing the same mistake toward Europeans that the japanese made toward you 60 years ago.
I would say that you understand very little of Europeans, you think europeans are wimps because they care about other people's live (not only theirs but also other's, something rightists have difficulties to understand).
Europe is indeed asleep, but from the same kind of sleep that USA was before WW1 and WW2. Don't wake up the sleeping Europe, you might be surprised.
Now about statistics, and your 'bloody' civil war, let's have a look at stats.
Here is a link to 'your' wars and 'your' causalties:
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/other/stats/warcost.htm
You'll see that indeed, the civil war is your most bloodiest war, with the higgest toll on the confederate side: 18% deads and 31% of causalties. 1 chance on 2 to return home in one piece. Those were real men.
Now let's have a look at 'our' bloodiest war: WW1
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWdeaths.htm
And the winner is... Austria: 90% causalties, 1 chance on 10 to come back home uninjured... sissies: they surrender.
France and Russia second ex-aequo: 76% cuasalties. 1 chance on 4 to come back home in one piece... sissies: big US had to come to save their ass.
Compare those stats, and tell me who are those more ready to fight to the last blood? The sissy frenchies who lost 1 men on 6 during that war. Entire French villages empty of males between 16 and 35? Thanks to that beloved nationalism.
What is YOUR feeling about the civil war? Do you want it happen again? You liked it? You are proud of it?
What do you think are OUR feeling about WW1 and nationalism? You think we are proud of it? You think we want it again?
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01-08-2002 08:19
, my hypothetical situation calls for every country for themselves. If you would have allys, Im quite sure the US and NATO would be operating together. Greece is a member of Nato, isnt it?
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