01-08-2002 22:14									#31
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Milk and butter? Those are horrible businesses to get into The trick is to look for a product that has consistent shortages. Soybean used to be pretty good but I stoped keeping track of it a while ago.


COckney,

Build Air Transport companies in your country if you don't have one or two. Trust me. Stone sucks too. Companies slash production if there are excessive supplies. Try knocking up the quality in these markets.

	01-08-2002 22:56									#32
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I've started a corp too: Colon Entreprises (sounds grand doesn't it? ) in Kebir Blue. I've set up two companies, one Rice farm and one Soybean farm but haven't been able to produce anything yet.

Anybody wants me to invest in his country?

	01-08-2002 23:11									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Milk and butter? Those are horrible businesses to get into The trick is to look for a product that has consistent shortages. Soybean used to be pretty good but I stoped keeping track of it a while ago.

Oh noo! ...now I'm confused (or u are wrong): I looked at the products (suply and demand) and chose butter because the suply was half of the demand...to me that means that it is good to build a butter factory cause there is not enough butter on the world market. (btw i'm in the White Giant world).

	01-08-2002 23:12									#34
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I'll try to be a president now, that might be fun.

	02-08-2002 00:07									#35
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I've started a game with my country, Tantallon.

Like everyone else, I've a nasty shortage of low level workers and a severe shortage of med workers. Most of my unemployment is concentrated in managerial area and amongst engineers.

I've got a good service and chemical industry and there are three high-value private companies. (maybe I should turn up the tax)

Is there any limit to what companies you can set up? For example, can I start a cocoa company in the polar regions?

	02-08-2002 04:17									#36
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Ok, I set up a contract to buy a small amount of services from one of my state corporations (less than 1% of their monthly production). I set the corp to reserve the appropriate amount of output for contracts. Then later when trades executed I get a message saying the company couldn't deliver on the contract. Huh?! Do open market trades get priority or something?

	02-08-2002 08:14									#37
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Colon,

Fearless Blue is more advantageous to attackers, but if you are just a CEO all you need to worry about is damages to your factories.


Hagbart,

The butter market has very long stretches of over-supply, that's all.


Sandman,

Don't turn up the tax. If you have a whole bunch of high tech types sitting around what you do is to increase efficiency of your factories. That will reduce the number of low tech workers needed. There also seems to be no regional restrictions on where you build companies.


Jules,

Check the reservatio to see if it has been set correctly. If so, check the production status of your company.

	02-08-2002 08:20									#38
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Well my energy enterprise is growing.

After acquiring the 10 billion dollar Kloten Iron firm, I am feeling confident. It took alot of bids, but I cant wait to build it up. Its in good shape and im suprised I was the only bidder.

Now this adds

Rat power and Light worth= 6b E's
Rat Oil= 278M E's
Rat Mining & ore=11.6B E's

I still have 30 billion dollars left over from the Loan. Im acquiring 2 more corporations at the end of August (game time) A Defense fighter company and another electric Exporter.


If your not sure how to manage your corporation. Go to "All things you can do" on your front page and look for "Automate settings"

	02-08-2002 08:22									#39
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The best trading strategy for products is 2% above market price. And if it doesnt sell, drop it bye 5%. This actually encourages steady but stable growth.

	02-08-2002 08:36									#40
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You're spending way too much on the company. Much cheaper starting your own. A production plant costs around 4B, so any companies that costs more than that is not worth it.

AFAIK there is no set trading strategy. You can't be lazy you need to keep a watch on the market. Jack up the price when there is a huge shortage.

	02-08-2002 09:12									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Jules, Check the reservatio to see if it has been set correctly. If so, check the production status of your company.

I think it's straightened out now. The corp in question is showing the correct amount on the "Product in Stock but Not Offered on the Market" line. It was probably just a timing issue. I must've set up the contract and reserved the goods *after* the corp sold all its available product the month before. Once the month rolled over and new product was generated, then the company sets aside contract goods apparently.

	02-08-2002 09:30									#42
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UR:

Its not that. Kloten is a good company. I know im puttin alot out there for it. But Iron is in HUGE demand and the guy has some really bad fixed pricing rates.

	02-08-2002 09:31									#43
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oh and bye bad I mean low

	03-08-2002 04:26									#44
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What's the time commitment on this thing?

	03-08-2002 05:09									#45
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The game only executes two months each day (1 game turn = 1 month), so probably only 30 minutes per day. If you wanna sign up, I'll PM you a gift certificate number. That way we'll each get 20 billion in play money. I'm Schiller Republic in White Giant. This is a really fascinating game IMHO.

	03-08-2002 06:42									#46
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I started a country on Fearless Blue. I also started a Federation called The Dance Dance Revolution Revolutionaries. If anyone wants to join, please do! I'd love to have ppl join it with me. I think I'm doing well, I have allot of low lvl workers unemployed though, I can't seem to open enough industries cuz it maxed at 3 in one turn.

	03-08-2002 06:59									#47
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Damn guys put ME in for reference. I am the one who showed you?

	03-08-2002 07:16									#48
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All of a sudden I have a new state corporation (poultry of all things!), but I never put in an order for one. Do these things just appear on their own? I've noticed on the trade screen that my populace is demanding one production plant per month. Might that have something to do with it?

This is gonna throw a wrench into my long-term strategy (these things cost four billion a piece ya know!).


EDIT: Sorry, faded, but given this latest development, I need the money more.

	03-08-2002 07:36									#49
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one question before I sign up: is there any kind of person-to-person negotiations needed for CEOs (ie trying to get deals with Presidents, forming cartels etc. etc.) would like some kind of interaction with something besides poultry or soy beans Otherwise, I'm going to be a tinpot dictator on Fearless Blue...

	03-08-2002 07:44									#50
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Boshko,

AFAIK you can set up seperate trade deals with other presidents and CEOs in lieu of the world market. In order to do that you'd have to use the chat feature to negotiate terms. There are restrictions, though, such as the negotiated price must be within 5% of the market price.

Before you sign up, I can send you a gift certificate for $20billion in play money if you like.

EDIT: Your question was about playing as a CEO I presume. But the same thing applies when you play a president. You can negotiate private deals with other presidents and CEOs. Presidents can also form federations with other countries.

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	03-08-2002 07:48									#51
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Was looking through the country listings and saw the same people running about 30 countries, if this kind of blatant cheating's going on I'm a bit hesitant about spending time exploiting the proletariat

	03-08-2002 08:17									#52
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I believe it says they run so many countries is because they conquered them. When you conquer territory, it retains in nationality and doesn't become part of your original nation. You end up running not one nation, but two nations that can share resources with eachother.

	03-08-2002 08:20									#53
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I think the way it works is when you conquer a country in war you become its president. No annexing.

	03-08-2002 08:39									#54
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Boshko,
Did you say you were looking at the Fearless Blue world? That makes sense then. The description says it's easier to conquer there than the other worlds.

	03-08-2002 09:46									#55
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"All of a sudden I have a new state corporation (poultry of all things!), but I never put in an order for one. Do these things just appear on their own? "

A ceo like myself has just made one. Or.....it was the prevouis leader who did so.

Im not doin to well. And yes, if you are a CEO negotiations are a good thing. I ended up losing my oil co. in "Socialist Ogre Federations" cause of 10%, then an hour later 90% tax rate!

Be careful. Some are out to get you.

	03-08-2002 12:06									#56
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fg,

By my observation, iron is not a lucrative business. Electric power is much better.

quote: Originally posted by Jules All of a sudden I have a new state corporation (poultry of all things!), but I never put in an order for one. Do these things just appear on their own?

Yes, if you do not adjust the automation parameters, the program will create silly companies for you.

quote: Originally posted by Jules I've noticed on the trade screen that my populace is demanding one production plant per month. Might that have something to do with it?

No. Your country do not need production plants unless somebody is building a new factory there.

	03-08-2002 22:09									#57
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quote: Yes, if you do not adjust the automation parameters, the program will create silly companies for you.

Ok, where do I look for these automation parameters? 'Cause I haven't noticed any new corporations under construction since I took over the country, but all of a sudden there is was--Madera Poultry--in the list of state-owned companies.

quote: No. Your country do not need production plants unless somebody is building a new factory there.

Hmmm...another plant is scheduled to be completed in about two game weeks. The poultry company is already producing, so it must not be for them. No new private corporations have appeared. So who ordered this one? Should I quick set up a new state company (sensibly chosen this time) before it's completed?

Another big problem I'm having right now is a severe shortage of high tech executives (zero unemployed). Both state and private companies have been losing a handful each month, which is reducing their production and increasing unemployment in other lower-level occupation categories. I've built as many new schools and universities as there were teachers available to staff them. I've boosted the educational priorities for teachers and high tech executives. Is there anything else I can do, or do I just sit back and wait for my new education policies to kick in?

	03-08-2002 22:20									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Jules Ok, where do I look for these automation parameters? 'Cause I haven't noticed any new corporations under construction since I took over the country, but all of a sudden there is was--Madera Poultry--in the list of state-owned companies.

IIRC, if you click under "Important things to do" it's listed in there some where.

quote: Originally posted by Jules Hmmm...another plant is scheduled to be completed in about two game weeks. The poultry company is already producing, so it must not be for them. No new private corporations have appeared. So who ordered this one? Should I quick set up a new state company (sensibly chosen this time) before it's completed?

Should be a private corporation. You can't see it until it's finished construction.

quote: Originally posted by Jules Another big problem I'm having right now is a severe shortage of high tech executives (zero unemployed). Both state and private companies have been losing a handful each month, which is reducing their production and increasing unemployment in other lower-level occupation categories. I've built as many new schools and universities as there were teachers available to staff them. I've boosted the educational priorities for teachers and high tech executives. Is there anything else I can do, or do I just sit back and wait for my new education policies to kick in?

I guess the only thing to do is wait. My problem is just the opposite. A chronic shortage of low and middle level workers.

	03-08-2002 23:16									#59
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Well, I've placed orders for more elementary schools, roads and railways, and I've closed down a loss-making cattle feed company to free up labour.

I've also managed to turn around the state car company by reducing prices.

However, with world markets in cars, chemicals and clothes turning against me, I may be in for a dry spell.

Two questions:

1. Is it worth organising trade deals between my own companies? There seems to be rather a lot of micro-management involved.

2. A CEO owned gasoline company in my country has a complete shortage of oil, reducing production to zero. Should I contact the CEO and whinge about it or can I take measures to sort it out myself?

	03-08-2002 23:26									#60
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Uh, oh, my citizens are cranky 'cause they haven't had their juice. Oh, no! If this keeps up, they might figure out that President Lyndon LaRouche is a total commie fraud!

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Sandman,
Are you playing in White Giant? There's a huge oil glut there right now, so the situation should correct itself.