25-09-2002 21:35									#121
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Hahaha, good work Mr President

	28-09-2002 11:40									#122
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Woohoo! I cleared 900B

What's wrong with Scumlandia I can't build a High Tech Services company there?

	29-09-2002 04:48									#123
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Well, I see an Air Transport company currently under construction there. I also see not enough high tech executives (high tech services require 160 I think).

	29-09-2002 09:44									#124
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It takes work to move a country up.

	29-09-2002 17:34									#125
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I can testify to that.

	29-09-2002 19:17									#126
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sorry about that Urban Ranger, but it will be a while for I seriously tackle my infrastructures (right now I'm just making small incremental improvements in terms of infrastructure). Without significant educational increases, there won't be enough high-techs employees for building most tech industry. Right now trying to make a really tight economic system that won't collapse when I start seriously building the infrastructure. My country is already out of debt, and my next step is to continue improving state corporatioins quality while getting enough money together to start giving out loans, thus providing a secondary source of income. Once that's done, I'll lower my tax rate enough to pay off my corporate loans, using my subsidies from loans to make up the difference. Then I'll pump back up the tax rate, start ramping up education and efficency big time and building more high-tech industries, using the leftover low end workers to start building an army to conquer my neighboring provinces (although it will undoubtly take a while to get to that point).

In the meantime, Scumlandia Enterprises (my corporation that I'm using mainly to help out my Country, I'm not really interested so much in raising my corps score) has just built a company that sells attack helicopters. If any country is interested in buying, just mail me in the game.

Last edited by Thucydides on 29-09-2002 at 20:04

	29-09-2002 20:24									#127
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You should also try to build up your enterprise. That way you can use it to help, say, buying dying companies and such.

I don't know about loans either it seems the 4% RoI isn't really worth it, unless you have cash out the washoo.

	01-10-2002 09:15									#128
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Woohoohoo! Broke the 1T mark!



I found that rolling acquisition works well. You start by putting a bid for a good state-owned company in a computer controlled comany. This way you won't get any counter-bids.

Repeat every month. In 4 months you'll start getting a company each month. If you are any good at picking up these companies each one will contribute to your next acquisition.

	02-10-2002 00:24									#129
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	02-10-2002 09:51									#130
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Yeah, you're going to drop like a rock.

	05-10-2002 19:49									#131
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Almost make it into top 200

	13-10-2002 18:36									#132
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Why is it that sometimes - in fact, often - when I order an effectivity or Quality upgrade, does it not seem to take effect? I would swear that I have bought at least 1, probably more, of each type for my earliest corporations, and yet several of them report 100 Effectivity and 100 Quality.

	13-10-2002 18:42									#133
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Okay, a couple of things. First, plants lose quality over time. Second, it takes a while to have these things installed.

BTW I found that effectivity isn't all that hot. You need the high tech types to run them, so if a country doesn't have enough of them you end up with a lack of workers. Also, you need high tech services, and these are in a chronic shortage right now.

But I found that buying max quality upgrades for the companies each turn does pay.

	13-10-2002 18:44									#134
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Ah, ok. I didn't realise they lost quality.

Oh, and I'm taking advantage of the HTS shortage. I have one corp worth 67B in it, one worth 46B, and a few days old one worth 12B already. I'm not even playing very seriously.

	13-10-2002 18:47									#135
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Yeah they do. New plants start at 130, but over time they ger worse and worse.

Oh, I almost forgot. You don't always get that 1% increase when you install an upgrade. On the other hand, if you install 2 or 3, you might get a 5% increase. There seems to be some randomness in there.

	13-10-2002 21:15									#136
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hmm... i'm pretty new to this

i just set up some corporations... or requested that they be set up? still kinda confused, then again that could be due to the pain medications

i had one thing in coffee, one in construction and one in services... but apparently they aren't up and running yet

anyway, how do i set up trade agreements? or is that only for presidents?

i'm confused.... maybe i should have read all that stuff about first time users

	13-10-2002 21:55									#137
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seems a lot like Utopia

	13-10-2002 22:05									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Caesar the Great hmm... i'm pretty new to this i just set up some corporations... or requested that they be set up? still kinda confused, then again that could be due to the pain medications i had one thing in coffee, one in construction and one in services... but apparently they aren't up and running yet anyway, how do i set up trade agreements? or is that only for presidents? i'm confused.... maybe i should have read all that stuff about first time users

Some quick tips:

It takes time to set up companies, roughly around 2 game months (~24 hours real time).

You can either buy or build companies. Buying takes longer (4 game months).

Set the buying strategy of your companies to -2/5. That is, 2% above market price and 5% increase per month. Don't forget to change the type to "timed."

Watch your debt, both the companies and your corporations. The World Bank automatically makes loans to you, but you can get better deals by specifying the interest.

Keep a 4 month stock in supplies. I generally buy 2 months each day if there is a shortage with "best price" and 6 months to a year with 2%/5% if there's a surplus.

Don't use the "best price" strategy to sell. Figure out some nice "timed" strategy.

That's about it. Have fun!

	13-10-2002 23:18									#139
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News from my country, Tantallon.

My best companies are a production plant company (72B), a car company (42B) and a computer company (46B). The computer company is new, I'm amazed at how fast it has grown. My own dotcom bubble, maybe?

I have a core of effectivity upgraded companies with an average value of about 20B. These include 2 vacation companies, a bread company which is doing well despite the global surplus, 2 services and 2 chemicals.

I also have a fringe of dying companies, experimental start-ups and companies the computer started.

My long term problem of a lack of medium level workers has been dramatically replaced by a lack of high-tech executives. My education system is working flat out to keep up the supply.

My health care system is complete, as is my education system.

Most of my other indicators are in the high eighties or low nineties.

I'm the chairman of the Apolyton Federation for some reason. I joined it when someone asked, but now I'm the only member. Apolytoners are warmly invited to join the federation, by the way.

	14-10-2002 02:14									#140
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Ok, a quick rejig of the buying strategies of a few key corps has gone ahead, to check the effect. I also ordered 3 upgrades for each corp (there's a loophole there. If you make your second choice different from your first choice, you can then take a third of either before you're told you've ordered the limit). Let's see if this can push me above the 400 rank.

	14-10-2002 14:05									#141
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Yeah, you really need to beef up the education a lot in your country before you go whole hog upgrading effectivity. Otherwise it just kills you.

Currently I am advancing towards the double digit rankings Rolling acquisition really works well. Right now I alternate between Services, Electric Power, and Air Transport.

	14-10-2002 16:45									#142
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quote: I'm the chairman of the Apolyton Federation for some reason. I joined it when someone asked, but now I'm the only member. Apolytoners are warmly invited to join the federation, by the way.

That was me, and the federation was formed when I owned Scumlands, but you gained ownership of it by default when I disbanded my presidency of the country and started again as Scumlandia.

	14-10-2002 22:48									#143
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Oh well, it's still open if anyone wants to join, otherwise I'll dismantle it.

	15-10-2002 00:56									#144
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BTW, can anyone figure out why I'm I'm suffering from a lack of employees in Scumlandia? I should have enough, but my companies aren't rebounding, instead they stay stuck at 0% employment and become non-productive. Is there anyway to save these companies?

	15-10-2002 01:10									#145
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If the companies don't have any debt, then they can stay like that forever, I reckon.

But I'm having the same problem. To make matters worse, new companies keep appearing with dodgy products. I reckon it could be because I have a high-tech executive crunch.

	15-10-2002 09:58									#146
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Thucydides,

You might be suffering from a lack of high tech types. If you are, disband some of the less profitable ones. Keep your Services, HTS, Air Transport, Electric Power, etc. companies. Kill of fruits, veggies, etc.


Sandman,

Make sure you turn off the "start new company" automation.