03-08-2002 23:45									#61
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Yeah, I'm in White Giant, and I see the glut, but for some reason the company isn't buying.

When I started there was a huge shortage of stone. and now there's a huge surplus. Do the markets always fluctuate this quickly?

	04-08-2002 03:47									#62
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OK, I started up Boshkorp (your prime source for quality sand! buy Boshkorp for all your sand needs!) in an NPC country with some surplus cheap labor. What do I do now, I'm a little lost...

	04-08-2002 05:10									#63
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Hey, your sand company is in the Commonwealth of Okra una; that's not too far away from where my country is. I'm in the adjoining region to the southwest called Great Palms, country #463--Schiller Republic. Unfortunately my citizens don't have much use for sand. Can't help you out there.

Now that you've set up a corporation, an order has been placed for a production plant. You need that before you can start selling stuff. Once the purchase is made there will be a two month (one day in real time) delay for construction before it's ready. Unless you want to set up some more companies there's not much else left for you to do today. Of course I'm playing as a president so I could be wrong. Maybe wait for some of the CEO players here to show up (e.g., faded).

EDIT: Wow! Perhaps sand is the business to get into. I've reviewed my world market data for July 19, 31, Sep 18, and Oct 13. All dates show a rather large shortage of sand hovering around 20% (i.e., that means that the supply of sand has consistently been around 20% less than demand).

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	04-08-2002 09:35									#64
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Sandman,

Maybe the CEO gave up playing. Check his last login time.


Boshko,

You want to crank out about 6 - 8 corporations. Services is still much in demand.

	04-08-2002 23:13									#65
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Is it possible to loan money directly to your state companies?

	04-08-2002 23:42									#66
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Following my country going nuts, I've pulled it up a bit now thanks to some nasty spending which has put me in the red, still running a small budget surplus, so everything should turn out ok with that *crosses fingers*

The corp is going great guns, although valued at about bugger all, I've got a service company, which I brought for the princely sum of 2mil E which is now making over 500mil E a month. 20billion debt, but who cares. I'm buying another one of those

	04-08-2002 23:44									#67
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OK, so I gotta start up more corps
But now my sand corp needs coal, high tech services, and services. I assume I try to get them at the best price right?

	04-08-2002 23:46									#68
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Well you could buy them from me at a huge mark up but yeah, I let the compter handle supplies, becasue..well..I can't be arsed with it.

	05-08-2002 03:30									#69
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney The corp is going great guns, although valued at about bugger all, I've got a service company, which I brought for the princely sum of 2mil E which is now making over 500mil E a month. 20billion debt, but who cares. I'm buying another one of those

Haha , you bought a company with a 20 billion dept , is that good?

	05-08-2002 08:48									#70
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Boshko,

Depending on what kind of supplies do you need. For things with a long term surplus such as coal, it is better to arrange for a coal contract if you have a coal mine. Better for the coal mine, that is For other supplies such as services, it's better to hoard (buy huge amounts at best prices) when there is a huge surplus in the market even if you own a services company, so that it can make a huge killing.


COckney,

You can't. The biggest markup you can make is 5%. You can't sell stuff dirt cheap to your own companies wither. You should buy supplies yourself because you can save a whole lot $$$.


Hagbart,

20B debt is small potatoes. New companies start with that amount of debt for the construction plant and supplies anyway. As long as the company makes money it's fine.

	20-08-2002 05:46									#71
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Ok, I'm intrigued. Someone send me an invitation code thingy, and make some suggestions on what I should start with (relatively easy, please).

	20-08-2002 06:50									#72
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DAMN CAPITALIST PIGS!

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	20-08-2002 12:34									#73
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How's everybody doing?


Chowlett,

Check your PM

	20-08-2002 12:53									#74
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I think my country's just about toast. I've managed to correct the severe shortage of high tech executives, except that in the meantime all of my companies that employed HT execs collapsed (8 of 'em). Of course when a state company closes the government inherits the debt, so I'm almost maxed-out at 300B E$ in debt and I don't think it can be rolled over anymore. The interest payments alone have eaten a hole in my budget. Next time I'll choose my country more carefully I suppose now that I know how things work.

	20-08-2002 13:08									#75
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Jules,

It's easier to learn the ropes by starting as a CEO. Maybe you want to do that first.

	21-08-2002 11:40									#76
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Ok, I just started up Bilberschnook International in White Giant. Any suggestions as to how a country and an enterprise can work together?

	21-08-2002 20:23									#77
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A couple of things. First, you can create companies in your country, which helps with the unemployment situation. Secondly, your companies can sell directly to each other, or form contracts.

As I told Boshko you want 6-8 companies in your enterprise, preferably making things that have shortages.

	22-08-2002 02:27									#78
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How do I pick a good country to found my companies in?

	22-08-2002 04:19									#79
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nm, I let it pick one for me. Watch out for Dunmer Enterprises (Problems? Let the local Dark Elves handle it), and their magnificent Road Maintenance corp in the Commenwealth of Mauri on White Giant. I'm now trying for a services firm.

	22-08-2002 04:50									#80
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Hey Imran - get playing again! I have a High Tech Services corp in your country!

	22-08-2002 05:19									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Chowlett Hey Imran - get playing again! I have a High Tech Services corp in your country!

Yeah! And so I can get that 20B E$ from the gift certificate I sent you but hasn't been executed yet.

	22-08-2002 09:38									#82
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pick a country with low taxes and not close to any nasty aggressors.

	23-08-2002 04:27									#83
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Ah, I've been doing the taxes bit. Must check on the aggressors from now on...

Anyway, I'm now the proud possessor of a Roads Maintainence firm, which is producing; a High-Tech services firm, which will produce as soon as I get some air-travel; and a gold mining corp under construction.

	23-08-2002 13:28									#84
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You still need 3 more. I suggest services, chemicals, and electric power.

	25-08-2002 00:42									#85
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I shall construct one tonight. Soon as I have a smidge more than 22B E available cash, I might try a takeover of one.

	25-08-2002 00:59									#86
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Annoying - there would appear to be no countries that can support a Services firm at this time. At least the "Find Country" link returned "not found". I shall construct Electric Power instead for the moment.

Do you recommend playing around with the shares atm, or not?

	25-08-2002 03:07									#87
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I went into the site. I got addicted! Can't stop playing! I HATE YOU!!!


Ah Franit Union sells eggs, milk and potassium btw

	25-08-2002 16:29									#88
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Chowlet,

The "Find Country" algorithm is very buggy. Just keep on clicking it until you find a country. How is it possible that with over 1000 countries in the world none is available? BTW don't do a takeover. It takes 4 months and you can end up with a dud. Both companies I bought went down. Good thing I paid jack.

EDIT: you can't play with shares unless you are in Golden Rainbow.

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	25-08-2002 16:50									#89
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A strategy that seems to work is to keep expanding your enterprise. A while ago I was at six companies, and I wanted to clear my debt first before doing anything. I ended up being rather sucky. Then I decided to go for broke and build a company each turn. What do you know? My net worth is now over $200B.

You can have up to $200B in debt anyway. As long as you have a positive cash flow you will be fine.

	25-08-2002 17:10									#90
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UR..I've found takeovers to be a good way of expanding..bought three service companies for next to nothing and they make like 500mil per month.