01-08-2002 15:30									#1
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I've been thinking and I'm getting quite tired of this place for now, so I was thinking about moving to the USA for longer time, maybe for good. Reasons are many. I checked the embassy site and it said few things like to bring birth certificates etc to file the applications.
One thing brought sweat to my forehead. It said to bring police certificates also. Don't get me wrong, i'm not a criminal or anything, but i had a ticket other than traffic offence, nothing too serious though and some years ago. It must effect to it, I don't have a criminal record, but i'm still concerned. Quite obviously i have some explaining to do there?

So the question is finally, how hard this will make things for me? I have to stress out, that it's nothing very serious, and had only a fine to pay for it, but something more than swearing at public place . If i go through this procedure, what should i expect because of this?

It's not like i'm the next son of sam.

edit: Yeah.. sounds REALLY convining, doesn't it

	01-08-2002 15:34									#2
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Answer to any question: You don't really want to move to the US.

	01-08-2002 15:38									#3
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Victor, Useless answer! God damn you forever!

Perhaps someone who has immigrated knows best?
Ok, I think these things need to be done for green cards also.. so the same question for that one too.
I was just thinking if I decide to go for green card and visa first..

	01-08-2002 15:38									#4
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NO! YOU ARE ONLY PLANNING TO BRING DOWN WESTERN CULTURE! No, wait, you aren't a Mexican.

	01-08-2002 15:42									#5
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Hehe Stefu.. yeah sure. I'm planning to get a decent job, I know I'd be more good for the country than bad.
But you know, sometimes you have the feeling that you have to do something in order to be happy. Yep. I'm not there to exploit the damn place..
But back to the subject.. ?

	01-08-2002 15:49									#6
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Just what heck did you did you do for a traffic offense?

Those usually don't count as a criminal act in the US.

	01-08-2002 15:59									#7
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Naah no it was NOT a traffic offense . I said it was something other than traffic offense.

	01-08-2002 16:18									#8
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For all US government WEB sites you can get started at this one.

http://www.firstgov.gov/

That will get you to any US federal web sites eventually. Its supposed to anyway.

Here is the INS site

http://www.ins.gov/graphics/index.htm

	01-08-2002 18:10									#9
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I may have to burst your bubble Pekka but unless you are a highly skilled worker you will have little chance of obtaining a green card and working here legally. Along with the regular immigration route (which will require you to prove that you have skills not possessed by americans) there is a "lottery" that chooses applicants at random with certain numbers allotted for each country/geographical area.

	01-08-2002 18:14									#10
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I work with a guy whos working towards citizenship and he says its a royal and costly pain. Only do it if you're 100% sure.

	01-08-2002 18:20									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka It's not like i'm the next son of sam. edit: Yeah.. sounds REALLY convining, doesn't it

I've never heard of a Finnish serial killer.

Caligasta would be the best person to answer your questions.

	01-08-2002 18:22									#12
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Yeah what good are you for me anyway.. no one answering the question .
Besides, I would propably have a job in there already, I know some people there. So back to the subject.. and no, i was not thinking of working in the mcdonalds or construction site anyway. Shame on you.

	01-08-2002 18:25									#13
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I've always HATED people who are fast to judge and say what's best for you even if they don't know you, your motives, anything about you really. Underestimated from day one, but I won't let your comments let me down or stand away in my dreams or goals.

I know you guys didn't mean anything by it, but I like to ***** and moan sometimes

	01-08-2002 18:28									#14
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OK i'll reveal some more to decrease the amount of useless answers. I possibly have a job in the US, I'm not sure if I should take it. Good thing is that I don't have to decide yet, I can go there later too if I want to. I know I need a green card etc etc.. and if I like it, maybe get a permanent recidency. I wanted to know if my past will effect on the process of getting green card etc. And where are the limits, as I said before, it was nothing too serious, but still.

	01-08-2002 18:28									#15
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Why keep us in suspense? What was your crime exactly?

...One little-known requirement: you must have (at least) eight fingers and two thumbs. If you can't provide the necessary ten prints, you can't get in. One guy with an industrial injury was halted by this for years.

	01-08-2002 18:28									#16
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quote: Originally posted by drake I work with a guy whos working towards citizenship and he says its a royal and costly pain. Only do it if you're 100% sure.

This is a man that wanted to sign up for the US Army. I'd say that he's sure that he wants to be an American.

	01-08-2002 18:29									#17
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WTF? That CAN'T be true? I have my fingers left, but one finger is little messed, so no good print can be taken from it.
And no, i'm not telling what i did. It was long time ago when i was younger and i judgement was.. lacking.

	01-08-2002 18:33									#18
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dinodoc, you have good memory . Yes that's true. I'm still thinking maybe joining. If I come there and get a job, feeling good and wanting to stay, then definately.
I don't believe in free rides.

	01-08-2002 18:35									#19
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Ok Pekka level up. who did you kill?

(just giving you one more excuse to ***** and moan )


why would you want to live in the US BTW?

It's good only if you want to make lots of money



if you want a change of scenery why dont you choose another european country in the EU where there is no need for papers and such nonsense?

	01-08-2002 18:39									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Yeah what good are you for me anyway.. no one answering the question . Besides, I would propably have a job in there already, I know some people there. So back to the subject.. and no, i was not thinking of working in the mcdonalds or construction site anyway. Shame on you.

Find your own answers then big-shot

	01-08-2002 18:40									#21
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No way I'm telling you guys.. It's a bit.. embarrasing for me. Not a sexcrime though .
I feel like USA has lots more to offer, and I have lots to give. I know some people there already, I hate 6 months of darkness, I like the pay I'd get from my job, I'd like to join army eventually. And.. why not?
And yes, another EU country is not out of the question, but USA is still number one for me.

	01-08-2002 18:41									#22
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SpencerH, I guess I came too hard on that one, but if that's the way you want to take it, then fine.

	01-08-2002 18:43									#23
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ok...

but you propably already did you military service in Finland.... going through twice???? and for the US??????


bliah

	01-08-2002 18:46									#24
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Yeah I already had my ass on the grass. But I didn't get enough! I'm asking for seconds .

	01-08-2002 18:49									#25
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just dont become a mercenairy

anyway, i dont know anything about what you are asking (well apart from there being specialized companies which handle immigration ot he USup in Thrace but thats not much use for you is it?)

so i will just wish you good luck

(im such a nice fellow arent i)

	01-08-2002 18:49									#26
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Remember, Pekka! The minute you become an American citizen, you gain 20 pounds (you also surprisingly start to use ancient measurements like 'pounds' and 'inches' and 'jobsworths' instead of sensible ones), begin to believe correct answer to 'I stubbed a toe, what should I do?' is 'Sue', and forget all you know about geography.

	01-08-2002 18:49									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka I hate 6 months of darkness

The 6 months of daylight sounds like it would be worse.

	01-08-2002 18:52									#28
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quote: Along with the regular immigration route (which will require you to prove that you have skills not possessed by americans)

He can speak more than one language and can place at least one European country on the map.

	01-08-2002 18:54									#29
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Yeah.. 4 actually.. 1 poorly though. And I can drive automatic AND manual smoothly . That should be enough for anyone.

	01-08-2002 18:56									#30
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Dinodoc, I think it's better.. When it's dark 6 months, you get depressed sooner or later, freeze your butt few times and never see light.. when it's summer, you can't sleep because there's no darkness at all, so you go crazy (but you're not depressed).