03-08-2002 03:46									#61
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	03-08-2002 04:04									#62
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quote: Try to beat England on our home turf, no-one has done that since before your country was founded.

From the weird turn of this thread above, it sounds like there are blokes beating England on their home turf everyday...

	03-08-2002 04:07									#63
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I was ignoring that stuff, for obvious reasons.

	03-08-2002 13:34									#64
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This is great

	03-08-2002 15:18									#65
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH We still have foreskins!

I lost my Kojak rollneck years ago.

	03-08-2002 15:41									#66
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If anyone should have forgotten this:

The english makes (together with the irish) some of the very best (dark) brew in the world.

Only Carlsberg Easterbrew and one other from Carlsberg called 47 (Xmas brew) are worthy competitors!

	03-08-2002 15:49									#67
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Carlsberg? Pah!

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-->Provost. I am only mentioning 2 of their products - their best.

Else I do agree with you. Normally I compare Carlsberg with IBM: You pay far too much for a standard ware.

	03-08-2002 16:03									#69
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Carlsberg, probably the worst lager in the world. It makes me want to throw up, and I'm usually a lager drinker.

	03-08-2002 18:44									#70
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If anyone wants to know what sums up Britain for me, it's BBC daytime TV from the 1970's and early 80's.

"...and now we return you to the test card and some music."

	03-08-2002 21:28									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin America should play away sometime. Try to beat England on our home turf, no-one has done that since before your country was founded.

Yes that's right- and you did lose rather badly before didn't you- in fact I believe in 1066 you were conqured by a group of people from............ FRANCE! Not only did you lose a war to these invaders from France, you actually lost your entire country to them! Now that is sad! Needless to say, we don't move against England because it would not be a proper challenge- if the French can do it, anyone can.

	03-08-2002 21:33									#72
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The Normans were Vikings.....

"North Men".

Are history teachers paid in beans in US schools?

	03-08-2002 21:35									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Yes that's right- and you did lose rather badly before didn't you- in fact I believe in 1066 you were conqured by a group of people from............ FRANCE! Not only did you lose a war to these invaders from France, you actually lost your entire country to them! Now that is sad! Needless to say, we don't move against England because it would not be a proper challenge- if the French can do it, anyone can.

That statement is almost as accurate as saying present day Americans lost their country to the white European invaders.

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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed we all know that the british empire was, at its peak, the largest nation of its time

Either they or the USSR were the largest nations of all time...

	03-08-2002 22:46									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Ron Jeremy The Normans were Vikings..... "North Men". Are history teachers paid in beans in US schools?

They were originally from Scandanavia, yes, and they made the King of France let them live in those lands. However, they were now living in France and so they were French. Also, the Duke of Normandy was a vassal to the King of France. After the conquest of England, much of the nobility spoke French.

"That statement is almost as accurate as saying present day Americans lost their country to the white European invaders."

Not really, since there was no such country as the United States of America when the Europeans came. England certainly was a country when it was conqured by the FRENCH!

	03-08-2002 22:51									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Either they or the USSR were the largest nations of all time...

The Mongols ruled over a bigger area IIRC.

	03-08-2002 22:55									#77
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Yes, but most of it was completely empty. They might as well have claimed dominion over the sea-bed too.

	04-08-2002 02:02									#78
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I don't know about the ugly women thing... when I was there I found it varied quite significantly by area. Fortunately where I was they were rather good looking but just a few tens of miles to the north they ... weren't. I was there at New Year's - talk about scantily clad females, even with snow on the ground and freezing temperatures. Far better than what I see here most of the time (even at Queen's, which tends to have better-than-average looking people).

And the Normans were largely Vikings, even if they had been there for a few generations... do you really think that an Army of Frenchmen could have crossed the Channel? Sheesh. [it would be interesting to know what language most of the soldiers actually spoke - French only? Norse only? both? Bilingual nobles but Norse-speaking soldiers? (would seem to be the most likely)]

	04-08-2002 02:38									#79
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this thread rules.

	04-08-2002 06:16									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The Mongols ruled over a bigger area IIRC.

Not as a single political unit...

	04-08-2002 06:20									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi It's really sad when the finest historical achievement of a nation was a draw in a war. The treaty of ghent was status quo ante bellum. The war of the American Revolution, however, was a clear-cut U.S. victory. So the scorecard USA: 1 Win No loss, 1 Draw Britian/Canada: No Wins, 1 Loss, 1 Draw USA!

Canada has a separate scorecard from Britain for both our participation in 1775 and 1812.

The revolutionary war was not a clear-cut US victory, either; you tried to take all of BNA, and only got half (the half you already prett much controlled, given the independence already displayed)

Canada: 1 win, 1 tie (on the battlefields of 1812, in the North, you had your asses handed to you, including on your own territory).

	04-08-2002 21:09									#82
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Actually the War of 1812 was definetly a tie. We got all we wanted out of the peace... an end to impressment and removal of the British forts in the Ohio Valley. That was all our aims. For the life of me, I can't understand this Canadian inferiority complex that says the US's main goal was to take Canada both times. Canada was a side goal. Some idiots might have wanted it, but that wasn't why we fought the wars.

And besides, in 1812, a full 1/3rd of the country wasn't partaking in the war (all of New England abstained from fighting the war, which is why you never hear of many battles coming from there).

Furthermore in the Revolution, not only did the US get the 13 colonies, but also ALL the land to the Mississippi, which made the United States almost 2.5 times bigger than it was. I'd call that a definete victory. This 'US wanted British North America' is such BS, I don't know whether to laugh to sigh.

Someone should really look into this Canadian inferiority complex where they believe that people actually want to conquer them!

	05-08-2002 14:05									#83
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In 1812 we were fighting Napoleon's armies in Spain, and in the West Indies and the 4th Kaffir war. Don't tell me we had to fight you losers as well?

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quote: Originally posted by MikeH In 1812 we were fighting Napoleon's armies in Spain, and in the West Indies and the 4th Kaffir war. Don't tell me we had to fight you losers as well?

Damn, Napoleon sure got around.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Actually the War of 1812 was definetly a tie. We got all we wanted out of the peace... an end to impressment and removal of the British forts in the Ohio Valley. That was all our aims. For the life of me, I can't understand this Canadian inferiority complex that says the US's main goal was to take Canada both times. Canada was a side goal. Some idiots might have wanted it, but that wasn't why we fought the wars. And besides, in 1812, a full 1/3rd of the country wasn't partaking in the war (all of New England abstained from fighting the war, which is why you never hear of many battles coming from there). Furthermore in the Revolution, not only did the US get the 13 colonies, but also ALL the land to the Mississippi, which made the United States almost 2.5 times bigger than it was. I'd call that a definete victory. This 'US wanted British North America' is such BS, I don't know whether to laugh to sigh. Someone should really look into this Canadian inferiority complex where they believe that people actually want to conquer them!

So the invasions of Lower Canada in 1775 and Upper Canada in 1812 aren't sufficient reason to think that?

Admit it. You guys wanted it all, and we kicked your asses out. This is our house, b*tch.

	05-08-2002 18:47									#86
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Napoleon wasn't actually in France. It was his brother or cousin or someone commanding.

Americans! Are you going to stand for that abuse! Get the tanks rolling, you march on Canada at dawn!

	05-08-2002 20:14									#87
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god, no...

we saw real war footage in that south park movie. the horror! the horror!

	05-08-2002 20:52									#88
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oh, and it's a relief that we're back to normal discussion, rather than that odd... bit back there with mikeh and venom...

	05-08-2002 20:54									#89
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The real reason for all of our past actions was to enable american movies to have bad guys that wouldn't offend anyone.(except the english but then we try not to take ourselves to seriously anyway)

	05-08-2002 22:28									#90
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English bad guys are so much better than American heroes.

Take Robin Hood: Prince of Theives

An American, Kevin Costner, playing the eponymous ENGLISH hero, yet Robin looked like a ponce next to the sheer evilness of the Sheriff, Alan Rickman.

Best line of the movie:

Nottingham: "I'm going to cut his heart out with a spoon!"
Guy. "Why a spoon cousin, Why not an axe?"
Nottingham "Cos it'll hert more".