03-08-2002 20:39									#1
	How about a PBEM subforum? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Those PBEM threads have been cluttering this forum long enough now.

But really, there are lots of PBEM threads, and there are a lot of... erm... "normal" threads. So wouldn't it be much neater to create a separate sub forum to make it a bit more well-organized, both for those who don't and those who do play PBEM's. But the forum should be only the actualy game threads, not any general PBEM discussions, discoveries or PBEM scenario releases or so, to prevent this SL forum from splitting up entirely into those who do and those who don't PBEM.

	03-08-2002 21:44									#2
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Voted no.

I like having just one forum for my PBEM-needs and for checking out the latest scenarios.

Besides, it sounds like this idea has been taken from the CFC-forum.

	03-08-2002 23:47									#3
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Not consciously anyway...

It looks like this wasn't a very good idea, the SL'ers are just too attached to this cozy little place, it seems.

	03-08-2002 23:48									#4
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Death to the Traitor! Death to Mercator!

	03-08-2002 23:49									#5
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*runs away and hides in a corner *

	04-08-2002 00:21									#6
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Right on Mercator! While I enjoy reading (some) of the multiplayer threads, the original purpose of SL has become obscured by the multiplayer activity. Much of the discussion of new scenarios now takes place over at CivFanatics. Scenario League is for the discussion and creation of scenarios.

	04-08-2002 00:41									#7
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The right place for those threads is civ2/general/help forum I guess.

	04-08-2002 01:36									#8
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This is a pretty interesting thread, at least from my point of view. I mean it

	04-08-2002 02:39									#9
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The PBEM games need their own subforum. Quickly.

	04-08-2002 02:46									#10
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I don't know...I voted no...if you move the PBEMs it might kill the vigor that SLeague has now, but now I'm not sure. I don't want to get mixed up with those "Spanish Civ2 Site" people

	04-08-2002 03:12									#11
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My words are backed with TWO APOLYTON STAFF MEMBERS!

	04-08-2002 04:18									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Mercator My words are backed with TWO APOLYTON STAFF MEMBERS!

Does this mean you built the Martini Project?

	04-08-2002 04:39									#13
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I'm not sure if that means what I think it means... but if that is the case, JB would be the answer.

Last edited by Mercator on 04-08-2002 at 05:12

	04-08-2002 05:04									#14
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I like the idea of a PBEM sub-forum.
However, it had better not be a sub-forum of the Civ2 MP forum - those guys scare me

	04-08-2002 05:04									#15
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quote: My words are backed with TWO APOLYTON STAFF MEMBERS!

We urge you,as one civilized nation to another, to destroy these terrible weapons before they destroy us all!

	04-08-2002 10:25									#16
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Indeed

	04-08-2002 18:15									#17
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If you dont want the pbem threads here, you should move it to the MP forum where they first belong

and if a sub-forum is created it would be in the MP forum

	04-08-2002 21:10									#18
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What if the forum moderator moved PBEM threads to the MP forum? You could set up a PBEM forum, but that wouldn't stop people from starting PBEM threads in the SL forum.

	04-08-2002 22:32									#19
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I prefer seeing an active SLeague forum. When PBEM threads are written well, they are a real asset to have around, and fun to read.

	04-08-2002 23:17									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG If you dont want the pbem threads here, you should move it to the MP forum where they first belong and if a sub-forum is created it would be in the MP forum

Wel, I think it's mostly the people who don't PBEM who don't "want" them here, so that isn't much help... In the same spirit, the entire SL forum could pretty much be disbanded and all threads moved to the various Civ2 sections, but that's not what we want (as has previously been shown).

I must agree with techumseh, the original purpose of this forum was basically scenario design, tips and reviews. Fairly recently multiplaying has made its entry. I have no objections to that whatsoever, and it should be part of this forum. But it obscures the other discussion material, which is inherently more sparse.

	05-08-2002 01:47									#21
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ok, it's a decision
a civ2-pbem forum will be created under civ2-mp
you have 24 hours to change my mind

	05-08-2002 02:22									#22
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What!? Mark, please don't.

#1 Six people voted for, six against. Hardly a stunning majority, eh?

#2 I know that the PBEM's doesn't "really" belong here. But I still think that the mix between discussing new scenarios and playing old ones is just perfect. Now if you split them...I'd rather have one alive forum than two semi-dead ones.

#3 Simply put, I like this forum. I'm sure many other people like it like this (hope so).

#4 I'd hate to see a CFC-situation with gazillions of foums and subforums to dig through when you just wan't to check on your PBEM.

#5 Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaasssssseeeeeeee don't.

	05-08-2002 02:30									#23
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on the issue of having to check many forums, you can "subscribe" to your favorite ones and have them show in your control panel

	05-08-2002 02:37									#24
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oh, alright that's not the big problem. gah, please don't make me come up with logical arguments, it's soon midnight and my brain is functioning on back-up power. (caffein)

	05-08-2002 03:33									#25
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While I agree with you, there's no need to rush, Markos. Let the debate rage a little longer, please. Everyone should get their say, including our leaders St. Leo and Warvoid. Perhaps a concensus will emerge.

	05-08-2002 03:41									#26
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ok, you have 36 hours(which will probably be 48 )

and i'm extending this for the spanish forum too....

there 6-7 civ2 pbem games currently running on both forums. i dont see how that would be an incactive forum.....

	05-08-2002 03:42									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee This is a pretty interesting thread, at least from my point of view. I mean it

I'd be interested in your point of view, Jesus. The Spanish site is sort of parallel to SL, isn't it? Some scenario stuff and some PBEM. Will you keep both together?

	05-08-2002 03:59									#28
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If your going to move them, do it right and give them their own forum, NOT a sub forum.

	05-08-2002 04:00									#29
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Civilisation 2
Civ2-General
Civ2-Spanish
Civ2-Strategy
Civ2-Scenario League
Civ2-MP
Civ2-MP Democracy
Civ2-MP Multisite Democracy
Civ2-MP PBEM
(Note the demise of the separate Test of Time and Creation forums)

What we really need are shortcuts to the Hosted Sites forums from the Civ2 category. Actually, calling us Civ2 forums is also acceptable as long as you don't interfere with our current on-topic/off-topic policies. Yes, it's inaccurate, but it would channel the newbies to the appropriate destinations and the discussion does revolve around that particular game.

	05-08-2002 04:20									#30
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ehm, the suggestion with a real forum for pbems sounds pretty good. I opposed the idea mainly because i'm afraid of change