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Prifysgol Caerdydd
Dec 1999 time: 15:21
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You really should listen to MikeH, can't really think of much else to add...
It does sound like you're beating yourself before you start. That means having a pristine CV that reads well, isn't overly long etc... It's your calling card and needs to set you apart from the competition in a positive way.
Are you just emailing them in or posting them the old fashioned way? These days with me it's email or nothing. Then you need a seperate covering letter for each job which is, if possible, personally addressed to the recipient. Remember to check up the company on their Website or Hoovers.com etc, and drop something 'knowledgable' in. Then there's the follow up call, some places stop looking at CV's after they've got a bunch - you need to make sure they look at yours, that means a phone call (Have a script, or series of scripts - the amount of times I used to get tongue tied because I forgot something was amazing! Also remember to fill it with keywords, as if it's on a database they'll mine them for those...
Have you tried job search/databases such as monster? If you put your CV on those, they might be beating a door to you! Remember those keywords!
Let's see if we can increase your application to interview ratio - remember lack of confidence can also be apparent in the written word!
There, not much to it!
Good luck!
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Lincoln
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This might be the time to think about a major life change. Sometimes disappointments like this are simply opportunities for an entirely new field. My father for example used to manage a gas station but he found he had an aptitude for accounting. This happened after Standard Oil tried to jack all of their older employees around by the use of various dirty tricks.
I suggest that you think about something more daring and exciting completely out of your field of education. There are many possiibilities and openings for teaching English throughout the world for example.
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Provost Harrison
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The farce is strong with this one.
Feb 2000 time: 05:21
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Hey Mike, I have found this out. Actually the jobcentre has been a very useful source of leads, agencies seem gormless, and the best publications are New Scientist.
However I am of the thought that Lincoln has at the moment, there seem to be quite a few teaching English abroad positions which look pretty cool. I was hoping to pay off any debts and ****, at least control them (student loan can wait, but sort out car loan and overdraft), before I looked at doing anything like that, but it is damn tempting...but yeah, I am trying to figure out other career areas, but I am very uncertain. I was trying to get my feet on the ground before investigating anything like that, but it looks like I may be pushed into that kind of analysis sooner than I thought.
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SuperSneak
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In the land of the one-eyed
Jun 2000 time: 21:21
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OK...made a very basic change...moved work experience to the forefront. I think you should expand vastly on this. Think of any little thing you did and trump it up mightily. Focus on hard industry skills such as knowledge and performance of standard industry spreadsheets, databases, statistical analysis, etc., etc,. etc. They want to know you can not only analyze, but present analysis.
I also edited out your reason for leaving the facility you were at...they don't need to know that, and, frankly, it makes you look like a quitter. Tell them you wanted to work, felt like there were more practical applications, need to pay off student loans, whatever...don't tell them you were disenchanted and left.
I think that and the perception you have no job skills has relegated your CV to the early slag heap. Give yourself a fighting chance.
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SuperSneak
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In the land of the one-eyed
Jun 2000 time: 21:21
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OK...this is not the best example in the world, but it illustrates a laundry list of applicable skills as well as hitting the reader with some clear goals and objectives right off the bat.
This is not what I send in the post, I have a much more polished res for that, but this is typically what I might send as an electronic submisson.
It is actually just a cut and paste from Monster.com.
*edited out download since I saw 5 people had dl'd it and got paranoid....
Last edited by SuperSneak on 08-08-2002 at 03:37
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SuperSneak
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In the land of the one-eyed
Jun 2000 time: 21:21
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Yes...there is a lot of variation here. A lot depends on the industry as well.
Mine is in a large font, and, as I said, I'd never send it out like that unless someone needed it quickly, as is often the case in my field (sales/account management).
In your case, I would want to see you do the same with job experience that you did with education...point by point examination of skills. If you really have to cut down to two pages, tighten up the schooling and expand on the work.
In the job market, there is not a lot of chance taking on promising prospects--as the hiring is directly reflected back onto the hirer.
I don't know if mission statements, etc. will fly over there, but job experience is an essential anywhere. They can get to know you more in an interview. Without the interviews, there isn't a chance to work your magic on a personal level.
Think of your audience, not yourself.
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DanS
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Kickball Capital of the World
Jan 1970 time: 00:21
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I could go either way on the experience versus education first. This is his first job in the industry.
Personally, I wanted to see you lead with your educational accomplishments and a showcase of your skills. Out with the "responsible" and in with the "designed innovative protocol and pilot study to prove that humans can grow three tits, " It's nice to see numbers too. "Managed report writing for three peer-reviewed articles appearing in Dumb Schmuck Science." Some industries are more credential-based, so you have to modify for your industry.
When I got down to work experience, I thought it was pretty interesting. You were a canvasser. No sh!t. Lead with statistical analysis and presentation of findings.
Last edited by DanS on 08-08-2002 at 01:10
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Caligastia
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What excuse should he give for dropping out then?
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Caligastia
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So he could say something similar if asked?
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