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I mean.. At first it was nice. You have to understand something, I'm from a country where virtually everyone has at least one. Everyone carries them, you can't avoid from hearing few conversations if you're in train/bus/bar/etc.

It doesn't stop there, oh no sir.. I get quite often calls from wrong numbers, well that's ok, but they often come at the middle of the night. And it's not some pranksters, this is a real problem.

It's almost certain that if you're enjoying a nice movie at the theater, some stupid moron has forgotten to shut it, and some people even have the nerves to talk in it loudly! Next time I'll swear he/she goes out with a dislocated shoulder...

I wonder how many car accidents happen here, because it's everywhere you look now. People are talking to their phones while DRIVING! Some people are even sending text messages.. and only few have chosen to go through the painstaking operation of buying handsfree system.

And the ones I really hate is when someone calls you.. it's a private number, or a number you don't know. First of all you're nervous about who this can be, since you don't know this person. But then again if you didn't answer it for some reason, and you're trying to get back at this mysterious person.. and you fail. For the rest of the day you'll be wondering who that was and why.
It ruins my day for real.

But the point why I started hating these phones is.. You are ALWAYS reachable! I mean anyone can contact you anytime they choose. I don't want to hear about 'yeah, but you can shut it for a while if you don't want to be disturbed'...
It's like you're not in control any more. You can be reached at any moment, time, place.
I was thinking that I should just throw the damn evil thing to the sea, but the only reason I haven't done that yet is because I'm sure right after that I'll see an accident and need to call the police etc.
But because everyone has them, it's not valid option, so I'm sure I'll get into an accident myself and no one is around. Talk about irony then.

It's like if you don't have a cellphone, you don't exist in this country. I don't know what I should do.. I don't want to be at reach for everyone at any moment and place. I WANT PEACE!

edit: Oh, I forgot to mention few more stupid things about cell phones.
It makes people paranoid. When you call to your friend, you know he/she can see that you're calling.. no answer.. you start to wonder why it wasn't answered.. is he/she dissing me? Was it a bad time? If it was, well uh, that's bad, I can get blame for it.. Will my friend call me back? Why doesn't he/she call me back already? Should I call again? Or send a text message?
These are problems that comes with cell phones, when everyone has them, and they are so easy to use and handy, you don't have to wait by your phone because it's always with you and everyone knows it.

And if you misplace it, then you're in trouble. Is it stolen? Is someone now calling to some pornlines worth of $3000? Is someone trying to reach me now? What if it's something important, and I'll miss it because of that?

Let's destroy these evil things! They create nothing but misery, paranoia and huge bills.

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finland. figures. although, i could see you saying that if you were in sweden, skorea, or japan.

although, come on, nokia's done great things for your country... i think.

besides, if you really have that much trouble with the handphones, you can just turn it off and leave it off until you need it...

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Yes, I hate cell phones, I hate ppl that talk on them.

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Yeah I know! But when you eventually open the phone again, it will be filled with text messages and phone calls, and your answer machine is full of angry people shouting why you don't return calls.

It's like your new mailbox, everyone can access with 24/7. And now, if you don't answer your phone, want to be in peace, well.. that creates paranoia among the callers!

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yeah, i know. of course, i also get plenty of angry calls about why i don't return emails...

you know what you could do. you could conceivably switch providers/phones, and not give anyone the new one. and the old one, just say it got stolen, or broke, or lost it, and for those that want to know your new one, say that you find it liberating "not to have" one.

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I refuse to get one. If I had one my wife would call me 6-7 times a days. And I guaran-damn-tee not once would it be to say "Honey, I have to have you now!"

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And since everyone has them, and uses them and it's in the culture already.. it's hard to be different .
People won't make the effort to really contact you, because it's easy by phone. Any time, Any place, it really doesn't matter what YOU are doing.

People are impatient.. I am too. We have become to that because of cell phones. Why wait? You can call right away and have the answer in 10 seconds. So what if you call 40 times in a row, that's normal.

What about rumours? It's like a wet dream for them. Everyone knows about it in 1 minute around the country, and everyone has it wrong usually. After that it's impossible to fix what ever has happened.

So what happens if you get rid of it? No one contacts you. It's too hard.. everywhere you go, they ask your cell phone number. You don't have one? Hmm.. go back to Zimbabwe then.

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Q Cubed, I actually did that . I gave the number only to few people with message not to distribute it.
Does it ever work? No .

And then you have the phone and you're like.. 'it would be easy to just call now because I have this very urgent thing, but if I call, they'll know I have a new number and wonder why I refuse to give it'..been there done that.

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mm... i feel your pain, actually. it's crazy, all my relatives in korea have handphones (what they call cellphones)... from my 12 year old cousin to my 70+ grandmother... oy.

do you guys have the same big injunction against people using phones during performances and what not? that's always been a big pet peeve... listening to some clever and witty dialogue in a play, and then... *beepbeepbeepbeepbeep*... makes you want to grab the phone and crush it right there.

two things with this, though, are scary. in america, they have headsets... and when you ride mass transits, you never know if someone talking to themself is crazy, or if they just have one of those earpiece/mike sets that plugs into their cell.
in korea and japan, young people on the subways are even more antisocial, because their heads are always down, text messaging each other...

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Lefty Scaevola, I envy you .

That phone has reached a new status in this country. First it was a status of good income, now it's your second ID. It's like murricans and guns . It's your right, and you are obligated to have one and carry at all times.

And the calls lose there meaning. They are just like 'Hmm... sorry I forgot what I wanted to say' and then 10 seconds later 'Hi it's me again.. so.. it's boring, where are you?'. People have nothing to say to each other any more. And they prefer now speak over the phone, not face to face especially with hard and touchy subjects, yeah.. it's the finnish way!
It's common to see a man in a bar, talking to his phone and having beer. Yep. Like a virtual friend. What's wrong with that picture? EVERYTHING!
This is not what life is supposed to be like GRGRGRGRG!

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Q Cuber, YEAH! Both things, very common in here, it's even normal! Those scare me too.
Those headseats are what I called handsfree system.

Many times some people just walk by you talking to themselves, maybe even shouting, and you can't be sure if he was just making a call. It's scary as hell.

And it's like if you're in the bar, and someone bugs you, and you say the wrong word .. it's beepbeepbeep and he just called 2000 of his friends waiting outside and ready to kill you.

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The thing that annoys me most are the ringtones. Few are nice, most are stupid.
I only have one beep, followed by "vibrate".

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But the point why I started hating these phones is.. You are ALWAYS reachable! I mean anyone can contact you anytime they choose. I don't want to hear about 'yeah, but you can shut it for a while if you don't want to be disturbed'...
It's like you're not in control any more. You can be reached at any moment, time, place.

Nonsense, since my phone is "silent", it's possible I don't hear it, or feel it vibrate in my pocket. It's usually a good excuse for an unanswered call.
And I've also disabled my voicemail, so people cannot leave me a message.
I am required to pick up if they need me...so I am in control

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Zopperoni, Yep.. ringtones makes me and many people furious. It's like road rage. Some people (usually teenagers) have the urge to play them over and over again to their friends.. maybe the whole archive while at it, loud of course. Then they start challenging each other, having a concert straight from hell. Trying to synchronize them. Aaaaargh!

My phone is usually 'silent' too. But still you get to see all the numbers that tried to reach you. If you don't call back, you're considered and ******* here.
Basically, cellphones are devices that gives everyone a chance to shout 'BIKKABOO!' to your ear 24/7.

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Yeah, they can irritate me, especially with some stupid arsehole driving whilst chatting away, waving from lane to lane and not paying the slightest attention to the road.

As for ring tones, yes, they generally irritate me like mad. I just have a standard ringer set to a very high volume because I am as deaf as Beethoven

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I love cell phones, they're a fantastic convenience and a must-have in case of a roadside emergency (or other type of emergency). I've got a Tracfone, which has an extremely cheap calling plan (five bucks a month) and is ideally suited for emergency use since it keeps accumulating minutes.

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And them comes more problems.. where ever you are.. doesn't matter what time or what place.. people are talking in it. If you're talking to someone, it's 'wait, I really have to get this one'. Your employer calls you everytime, since you have a cellphone given by him, and you are obligated to answer it at all times. Of course you have already send a kinky text message revealing your most perversed fantasies meant to go to your gf, going to your boss, mother, relative, whatever.
And you recieve these too, when you really didn't want to know!

You go to a supermarket.. it's a long line, but it's nice, since everyone is talking to a phone, so you can learn what they did today, even if you wanted or not. Line is going VERY slow because of this.
Before this, everyone just asked you for a cigarrette and kicked your ass if you didn't give one, now it's that and the 'I need to make a call, gimme your phone' and it's goodbye to that phone and welcome the $3000 bill.

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My phone is usually 'silent' too. But still you get to see all the numbers that tried to reach you. If you don't call back, you're considered and ******* here.

Yeah, but it helps in a lot of situations. People from my work usually leave a voicemail message asking if I can call back "because they are dealing with a problem/gap". Now they can't, and they always call anonymously, and everyone who calls anonymously can fark off as far as I'm concerned.

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loinburger, Yes. The only reason I still keep mine. In a case of emergency. And because of that possibility I have to take all this crap! Better be some massive accidents soon.
It was like a drug, fun at first, hell at the end, and can't see the end really.

Was all better when we didn't have them? ABSOLUTELY!
We are pretty antisocial people to start with, but now.. uh oh.

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zopperoni, I wish I could be like you. I really get curious, and in a state of paranoia and fear because I don't know what that anonymous person wanted. Obviously he/she wants something from me. It's freaky.
I hate anonymous calls. But if I don't answer it, it will ruin my day as I wonder what was it about.

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I leave mine turned off unless I need it. I also don't usually give out the number to anybody, so nobody ever tries to call during a movie or something. (Not that they could anyway with my phone turned off, of course...)

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yeah, anonymous calls suck. they give you caller id, but what good is caller id when it's trumped by privacy settings?

yeah, i usually keep mine on silent mode all the time. and then i go back to check the missed messages, and call only the ones i want. i suppose i get away with that by saying i forget my phone sometimes (i do have a bad memory for certain things, so~)... maybe if you cultivate that image enough?

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zopperoni, I wish I could be like you. I really get curious, and in a state of paranoia and fear because I don't know what that anonymous person wanted. Obviously he/she wants something from me. It's freaky.
I hate anonymous calls. But if I don't answer it, it will ruin my day as I wonder what was it about.

It's very simple for me: if it's important, the caller will either send me a text message, or dial my home phone number, which has a voicemail.

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In Lithuania also almost everyone has cellphones and I am also totally annoyed about them. It especially annoys when person you are talking to writes SMS.

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Yep.. you're like the supercool phone user.. But see.. I'm the paranoid person, I can't live the day NOT knowing what it was about, doesn't matter who called, and often it's from unknown number, which sets my alarms, and from anonymous which really gives me the creeps. I don't know why. This is something that has developed in the years of intense phoning experience. Many of my friends identify themselves with this situation, all the way to paranoia and freaky feelings and the creeps.
Often when someone answers the phone, first looking who's calling, goes 'Oh no, anonymous number' or 'I don't know who this is' like it's really bad.

People in here are used to get the bad messages too, and when you hear enough bad stuff in the phone, actually almost everything bad you ever hear, it becomes a device of hell and torture. You turn your brains into a new mindset like if you don't know the number you think is it bad or good news, because it can't be some bs because this is not your friend, so it's news of some kind. But is it bad? Can be! Answer the phone! Getting the creeps? Absolutely.

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Sonic, I totally know what you mean. It's .. just.. well I wish this invention never came so big. It's phenomenon.

Zopperoni, Yep.. I TRY to think that too.. that he will call me back if it was important.. but still I wonder all day what it was .

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And then there is the wrong-number-syndrome. You call to a wrong number by accident, but no one answers. You didn't realize you called the wrong number. Now.. the one you called calls you back since there's caller id's. This time you didn't get it and this is the way it goes many times. You maybe even forget that you are the one calling the wrong number. Start arguing.

There are also lots of services in here for the phones. You can order anything by calling, SMS, whatever. Some of these won't work without that damn phone.

It's like your privacy has been invaded. You're not safe any more. Push a button and you reach anyone, push another one and you'll get his address and other information, push some more buttons and you can turn your sauna hot from work. What would happen if you take these phones away from everyone? Catastrophe! It's not good to be so depended on these toys of the devil.

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It was just on the news, that it's a big problem at schools. Kids are sending messages, playing games, etc. They are so cool for kids now, like toys, that it's impossible to be bored and follow the class.

This was and is a problem at the army too. It's almost always forbidden to have one with you when in class, in the woods whatever.. but is this order followed? Of course not, and because it's our culture, it's cruel to think anything else. Is it actually bad that privates are using them? Not really.. but it breaks the thing about obeying all orders given.

If you go to the hospital, there are signs about turning that damn thing off.. almost everyone forgots it.. and there a reason why it should be done, like some machines that don't like cell phones, can be dangerous, or then it's just something people assume and not really know yet.

And then you go to the US.. try to call and realize it won't work because the phones are working on different frequency.. well that's just NICE!

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And I'm not even gonna start on those batteries that always run out of juice. If you have to live in a place where it gets freezing in the winter.. the batteries LOVE IT! There capabilities decreases to half what it used to be, and stays that way forever.
If you misplace it, you can be almost sure never to see it again, since people are too lazy to see the effort of returning it.. it stays lots until some teenagers finds it, if not calling for porn, then he smashes it to the wall because it's fun and no one really cares. NICE!!

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And since we are so technologically advanced place and you run out of batteries.. can you find a payphone anymore? NO! Which is more than nice.

Everytime someone even remotely close to you starts drinking, he must call to you and tell about everything about his life and how you suck or rule. You do the same thing, call everyone, shame comes the next morning. Now if you didn't have that phone, you wouldn't of done that.

You are in a happening with lots of people there.. you try to call.. it won't work because the network is overloaded with other callers. It only makes you mad since you have the thing and it don't work! Remember, no payphones around.

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Oh yeah, almost forgot. Then there's the accidental-call-because-the-phone-was-in-my-pocket-and-wasn't-locked-syndrome.
I woke up in the morning because I was a victim of this syndrome. It makes you mad and it's not nice.
Someone has the phone in his pocket and walks and accidentally calls you because the buttons get pushed somehow. Well.. then you can hear your friend driving the car for the next 30 minutes, or walking. I even once had the opportunity to listen my friends having sex. I didn't get it at first, but when I realized what was going on.. NICE!
You maybe even try to yell at the phone 'ANSWERRR!!!!!' in a hope that he/she actually hears you. Never happens. Try just hanging up? You get another call in 1 second.

When someone actually calls you, you get 4 more people lining up and you go to extremely hard combination of pushing buttons to keep things in order, accidentally dropping few friends, but don't worry, they WILL call you in a matter of seconds.

Don't have a watch? Don't worry, just look the time from your phone. Bored in a train? Play with your phone, snake is a good game! Can't calculate something? Don't worry! You have a calculator in your phone. Don't ever use them? That's ok, everyone else does, and makes sure you know it too.

 
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