28-09-2000 14:45									#61
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OK I've forwarded turn 1 again. But I'm a bit confused. We started again at turn 1, but my men were all in their starting positions (ie turn 0). Have we all lost a turn somewhere.
One more thing. If we get the game working this time, I suggest that we start a new thread, which we can make diplomatic, instead of technical. Or perhaps keep this thread as well, have one technical thread, and one diplomatic. It sort of ruins the RPing having so much technical stuff

	29-09-2000 09:37									#62
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Come on billhq.. give us good news. I cant stand this suspense!!

Stavros Keygen played turn 0 for all of us. As far as new thread goes, we can use Keygen's Fixed World Turnpost thread. That shouldn't be a problem, but first we need to make sure billhq is able to play his turn.

	29-09-2000 06:05									#63
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Wow , i though you guys already go somewhere.
I did not read this thread anymore, so it's kind a suprise to me to have a "turn".
But, the turn still not work in my computer.
Bad news huh!
My Suggestion to make the game moving, is to have an AI Play it. It a simple way to do that.
But If you think to have an AI is not that fair.
Try this one, Find another one that can play this turn and that will be a long time, or
press N on my turn and you guy's have a new race to find a city with 2 settler. And I suggest someone put away that guard out of the city, so it will be easy to take over the city.
I am sorry i am not trying that hard to play this game.

	29-09-2000 07:22									#64
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Okay, lets see if TheBirdMan can play that civ. If he can problem solve, someone contact him through email and ask him to play the turn.

	29-09-2000 09:18									#65
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Ok, I'll try it.

The turn I have is turn 1 from the 24.sep

	29-09-2000 11:47									#66
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Sorry - game crashes for me too.

But the setup is a very nice way to start.

	30-09-2000 13:40									#67
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This is getting us nowhere.... Perhaps we should consider using a "proven" fast start. No offence intended, I found the map wonderful, and am disapointed that it is not working out, but we've been mucking around here for ages, and it's just not working...

	30-09-2000 17:07									#68
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I have one more suggestion to make before droping this problematic scenario. To play bilhq's turn some one else and his turn bilhq. If this works then we are ok otherwise I suggest to start a plain PBEM (if we had from the begining we might had an "accelerated" game going already) or try out Stavros suggestion to use a proven accelarated game.

	01-10-2000 08:48									#69
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Keygen, I repeat, I really liked this map and the players are excellent too, send me the map and I will modify it a tiny bit, send it out again to have you guys look over it and once you approve, I will launch the game. It will be the same thing with maybe 1 more river tile added to each civ, thats about it.

Come on Keygen, I was really looking forward to this game, you did a great job with the map, lets not abandon it.

Send me the original map file, and I will try to launch it. Worst case scenario that it doesn't work, I will modify it so that I am in the player number of Billhq, and he is player number 1. That way I will play the civ that is causing all the problems, and since I am the host the chance of problem to me is minimal.

	02-10-2000 01:48									#70
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Okay.. Heres the latest

Keygen emailed me the Fixed Diplomatic game scenario and I proceeded to create my own scenario by using it as a base map. I have made the following changes to it,
1) An extra river tile close to each civs capital city.
2) An extra ruby trade item in the mountians near the capital city of the civ. (ie, what is taken to be your land.

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The order of each of the players has stayed the same civs have stayed the same.

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I started a test PBEM game and I played everyone's turn zero to see that they were all functioning correctly, and then emailed bilhq hist turn number 1. So that he can open and play just his own turn and see what happens.

If he is able to play it correctly I will create a new game with the exact same setup and we will setup a new thread and launch the game, if he has trouble, I will switch positions with him. ie. Player 1 will be made bilhq's civ, and placed in the same place he is in now, and My civ will be in the slot taken by billhq's civ at the moment. That way we will be effectively switching player numbers, without changing any of the civilization position, names or characteristics.
Hopefully we wont have to do all that.

Any comments, questions? I will start the game as soon as I get confirmation from billhq that the scenario is workign fine on his computer.

Lets hope for the best.

	02-10-2000 06:36									#71
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Yep, it work just fine.

	02-10-2000 07:14									#72
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Woohoo!!!



We did it! I'll start the game first thing tomorrow afternoonish, sorry I cant do it now cause my dad's flown in for a day and I want to spend time with him!

We did it fellas!

	02-10-2000 18:03									#73
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Good job !

	02-10-2000 23:07									#74
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This conversation is OVER!!!



The game has come to and end, and been restarted. Please do to the "Fixed Game" thread to continue.

	02-10-2000 23:09									#75
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This conversation is OVER!!!



The game has come to and end, and been restarted. Please do to the "Fixed Game" thread to continue.

	03-10-2000 13:40									#76
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King Thor you changes 1,2 is not added in my capitol location, you finally resign from them ?