24-08-2002 01:38									#1
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	24-08-2002 01:44									#2
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Aeson and Sir Pleb

	24-08-2002 01:44									#3
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I vote for 1-iz-1337, with HappySunShine a close second.

	24-08-2002 02:21									#4
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Aeson

	24-08-2002 02:48									#5
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So far (Of all time? Dude, it's been like a YEAR), Aeson. Just looking at "So Very Cold..." should pretty much cement that. If anyone can beat Diety with a worse start position, well, I'll be damned.

Until MP comes out though, it's kinda hard to say that for sure. Oh sure, you can kick the AI's butt, but a lot of the clever psychological strategies that make MP masters killers aren't applicable to the game yet. You can't FOOL the AI, so to speak. You can know how it operates and exploit that, but you can't completely hoodwink it. A masterful MP player just might.

So like I said, we'll wait and see. But Aeson, man, he's light-years ahead of me, that much I know.

	24-08-2002 02:50									#6
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Aeson without a doubt. Of course, if anybody wants to submit a game that would shame "so very cold..." I'd be willing to change my opinion.

	24-08-2002 03:35									#7
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Ok for the masses where is this "so very cold", can I look at it? Thanks....

	24-08-2002 03:38									#8
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Aeson.

And then the other strat forum regulars!!

	24-08-2002 04:46									#9
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Velociryx. He has helped the newbs of Civ games for a while, and his guides are very easy to understand. Aeson is good, but statistically SirPleb is better. But we all know how good the scoring system is...

Aeson had an excellent iceberg game. I loved that game, but I really do think multiplayer will be a better challenge for him. As for pure skills, no one knows who is the best now because the AI has too many weaknesses.

	24-08-2002 05:06									#10
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Aeson, if SVC is any indication.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=53686

Started on a glacial continent, went on to destroy most of the 15 other civs (IIRC, it was 15) and win by Domination.

	24-08-2002 05:41									#11
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Besides me........Aeson.

Seriously, i think Aeson is the best player. But a while ago, Sir Ralph was talking about a German guy who won a emperor game without building any military units. No that, is impressive. But so far, i havent sen anyone who can top Aeson. (Vel is obviously a very good player, just from hi threads, but id like too see one of his games first.

	24-08-2002 06:04									#12
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The non-military game was an aberration, and, while interesting, doesn't hold a candle to SVC (nice one, Vlad).

Where has Sir Pleb disappeared to, btw?

I'll throw out some additional awards:

Aeson - Rational, disciplined, indomitable wins.

Vel - Spirit and intellect.

Arrian - Went Dark Side, and and never came back... the balanced warrior.

Catt - The explorer and experimenter.

Sir Ralph - Wise... and playful.

alexman - "Puts on *blank* expert hat"

Lord Merciless - Damn, he became expert fast! (seriously)

HSS - No kidding, from what I can tell an obsessive master at one of the most important aspects of the game, especially come MP. A little decorum would be appreciated, although not at the expense of some fireworks.

And too many more to mention... I've really enjoyed getting into 'poly, and 'meeting' all of you.

Hmmm, someone around here knows a lot about Armies...

	24-08-2002 06:47									#13
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There are a lot of really good players here and at CivFanatics, but I'd have to say SirPleb. He has one of those 'life' things though, which seems to have claimed him lately.



I think multiplayer will show a whole different set of 'best' players. Civ games are a lot about motivation. If it isn't there, the extra time and micromanagement necessary to turn a well played game into a great one can be easy to pass on. The motivations for single player and PvP are often mutually exclusive. Not to mention that tactics like sleeping on a move (which I have done many times) wouldn't go over too well with people waiting for their turn!

	24-08-2002 13:55									#14
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Aeson. His cold island game is something I believe not many will be able to repeat. Velociryx is, as always, excellent with his strategy advice and deep insight of the game, that kind of posts you love to read, you know.

Taking whatever time I can get to play Civ 3, though, I hope to become one of the good players, as well.

	24-08-2002 15:28									#15
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Sirian from Civfanatics is also a very good player.

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	24-08-2002 21:32									#17
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Yeah, whatever...

	28-08-2002 13:06									#18
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i did not read much of sirpleb's stuff...so...

aeson

but not cause of SVC. i consider that being "relatively easy": the huge map and having no land conection is imho a huge advantage...
no its much more the way he plays and argues - he seems to be more pricise and disciplined in using the tiniest effcts than anyone else...

	28-08-2002 15:24									#19
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After having read So Very Cold. I really can't think of anyone else besides Aeson.

That game gave me a lot of inspiration.

Saluti

	28-08-2002 18:08									#20
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Aeson. I've never been so astounded by a successful game as I was by So Very Cold.

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the best thing about svc is that he wasnt boasting about this amazing fluke game he had or whatever, but posted to it while playing through and still cam eout with an amzing result but could have easily lost it and not had any praise
too many really good players that i dont know to go mentioning the few imo

	28-08-2002 18:59									#22
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Aeson. His success in SVC is simply amazing .