29-08-2002 04:26									#181
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The fact that I have authoritarian tendencies does prove a problem in debate.

	29-08-2002 04:28									#182
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Anyways, that picture in no way proves anything. It cannot.

Why do you have the right to express this opinion, when (according to you) Sloww does not have the right to express his differing opinion? How can you objectively justify your inconsistent behavior?

quote: Sloww, put a sock in it. You have no right to say what is what.

	29-08-2002 04:29									#183
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quote: Originally posted by Fez The fact that I have authoritarian tendencies does prove a problem in debate.

I'd say that your irrationality is more of a problem. You arbitrarily apply a different set of rules to yourself than to others.

	29-08-2002 04:35									#184
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger I'd say that your irrationality is more of a problem. You arbitrarily apply a different set of rules to yourself than to others.

No, I am not irrational.

	29-08-2002 04:39									#185
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Inconsistency == irrationality. Your treatment of opinions is inconsistent (since you arbitrarily disallow the voicing of dissenting opinions and since you arbitrarily disallow the questioning of your opinions), therefore you are irrational.

	29-08-2002 04:43									#186
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What really grills me is the number of times I've stood up for the right of Fez to have his opinion heard, and then the little poontang treats me this way.
You're a mean person, Fez.

	29-08-2002 04:45									#187
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Inconsistency == irrationality. Your treatment of opinions is inconsistent (since you arbitrarily disallow the voicing of dissenting opinions and since you arbitrarily disallow the questioning of your opinions), therefore you are irrational.

I am waiting...

And slow, name the last time you stood up for me?

	29-08-2002 04:48									#188
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An easier question for me to answer is, when is the next time I do. Never.

	29-08-2002 04:48									#189
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quote: Originally posted by Fez I am waiting...

What, pray tell, are you waiting for? Are you waiting for somebody to come to your defense and argue that you're not being irrational? You'll probably have a long wait ahead of you, but be my guest.

	29-08-2002 04:52									#190
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No, Loiny, I am waiting for a decent response.

	29-08-2002 04:56									#191
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So the fact that you're being irrational doesn't bother you in the least, then?

	29-08-2002 05:01									#192
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I am not irrational.

	29-08-2002 05:07									#193
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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred Gee Fez you are questioning what he believes. My problem with Slowhand is that he is a hit and run type of poster. He doesn't have the guts to stick around and actually discuss things. You don't have the will to deal with other peoples opinion. Both are dubious qualities on a discussion forum.

You're as full of crap as Fez is, Big E.
We argued this subject extensively.

This was my fault, for even posting in the thread.
All you and Fez like to do is bait, not discuss.
So shove your opinion of me right up your anal orifice.
Fez, you watch how it's done and do the same.

	29-08-2002 05:09									#194
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quote: Originally posted by Fez I am not irrational.

You're in denial, is what you are. Your behavior is extremely inconsistent in that you claim that others don't have the right to express an opinion nor question your opinion, yet you cry whenever anybody try to infringe on your supposed right to express opinions and question others' opinions. You then fail to offer a shred of objective justification for this inconsistency. Therefore, you are irrational.

Can you offer any kind of objective justification for your inconsistent behavior? If not, then you're behaving irrationally: you don't even have a simple grasp of logic, and you have no ability to use reason in a debate. Your "arguments" consist of nothing more than gainsaying your discursive opponents, using your supposed authority as a debater as your sole justification for your position. Simple contradictions aren't a sound argument, Fez.

	29-08-2002 05:10									#195
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Loincrap, you do not know me so you cannot make arbitrary, idiotic assumptions.

	29-08-2002 05:13									#196
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An "assumption" isn't arbitrary when it's backed up by a sound justification, Fez. Your behavior is inconsistent, therefore you are irrational. It's a simple deduction.

	29-08-2002 05:15									#197
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You do not have sound justifications. My behavior is not inconsistent because it just ****ing isn't and I am not irrational.

	29-08-2002 05:22									#198
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quote: Originally posted by Fez You do not have sound justifications.

This is an example of unjustified (in this case arbitrary) gainsaying. Logically demonstrate where my justifications are unsound, otherwise you're just uselessly contradicting me.

quote: My behavior is not inconsistent because it just ****ing isn't and I am not irrational.

The bolded part of your statement is a fine example of an "unsound justification." Arbitrarily declaring that your behavior is consistent does not make it so. Instead, in order to show that your behavior is consistent, you should either follow my advice above (provide a logical demonstration of where my justifications for your inconsistency are unsound), or you should offer an objective justification for your apparent inconsistencies. Your authority as a debater is not so overwhelmingly great that I'm going to simply take your word for it that you're behaving consistently, no matter how many naughty words you use in a sentence.

The second part of your statement is, as above, nothing more than an unjustified contradiction of what I've said.

	29-08-2002 05:23									#199
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More bullcrap, and more and more and more... nothing stops the everlasting flow of bullcrap.

	29-08-2002 05:25									#200
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How is it bullcrap, Fez? Where have I erred in my assessment? I'd be willing to reassess your worth if you could show that you were, in fact, not being inconsistent, but thus far you've loath to do so...

	29-08-2002 05:26									#201
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All of your posts are worthless and inapplicable. You have shown that you are full blown fool.

	29-08-2002 05:27									#202
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Do you derive pleasure for torturing your inferiors, loinburger?

	29-08-2002 05:29									#203
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BTW, you aren't helping your case Fez. It might help if you took a break for a few hours to calm down from whatever got you so pissed.

	29-08-2002 05:31									#204
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A freaking rainbow is what pissed him off so bad, but he's not irrational.

	29-08-2002 05:32									#205
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Hell no. The only person who is inferior is loincrap. It is not like he can put together a real statement on somebody he doesn't even know.

	29-08-2002 06:18									#206
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Do you derive pleasure for torturing your inferiors, loinburger?

Well, maybe just a bit...

I'm just tired of Fez pulling this bullshit "you have no right to force your opinions on me" routine on every single thread he joins in. If he thinks that he is such a vastly superior human being that his opinions are the only ones that may be voiced, then so be it--I just want him to admit it and be done with it. But all too often he takes this "everybody's picking on me" attitude, and I honestly don't know if he really truly believes that he shits angels or if he just does it to get a rise out of people. I'm hoping for his sake that he's really nothing more than a troll (I mean, who could honestly be that obtuse?), but who can say for certain...

	29-08-2002 06:22									#207
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand A freaking rainbow is what pissed him off so bad, but he's not irrational.

I'm kinda giving Gianfez the benefit of the doubt here, because if he's not being irrational then he's being a jerk. He keeps insisting that he's completely rational, though, and I think that I'm beginning to believe him.

	29-08-2002 06:30									#208
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You have to love this:

quote: Originally posted by Fez Their opinions are outrageous and illogical therefore they are wrong.

2 posts later:

quote: Illogical this, illogical that... stop questioning what I believe.

Once again, you're being a rude little sh*t Fez. Try and have some respect for people who happen to have different beliefs and opinions than you.

	29-08-2002 06:52									#209
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The Judeo-Christian perception of God likely doesn't exist. But nobody can say God doesn't or does exist. IMO, you shouldn't believe in anything you don't know is true (or a theory/idea that doesn't have loads of evidence supporting it). The only things I believe as truth is that "I exist", "I don't know why I exist", "I don't know the nature of my existence, i.e. if I was created by a being, or if I'm just a random occurance". It is foolish to believe in any religion as truth. I don't need a god to teach me morals, and I think its sad that god is the reason people defend their morals.

	29-08-2002 06:53									#210
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Oh, and by the way. The line between faith and fanaticism is a small one.