27-08-2002 04:16									#1
	CHANGES IN ADS - read on! Enter the AD-FREE zone

in short:

- one of the two 468x60 banners has been moved at the bottom of pages. that affects all sections and all forum styles(the ones of course that carried two banners)

- on the remaining 468x60 banner at the top, US visitors will be seeing some new ads, the result of our agreement with an ad network

more details will be posted in the about section

	27-08-2002 07:33									#2
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG - on the remaining 468x60 banner at the top, US visitors will be seeing some new ads, the result of our agreement with an ad network

Does this mean I wont be able to see Apolytons glorious banners anymore unless I move to Russia?

	27-08-2002 10:11									#3
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Looks so, if you have read the news item.

	27-08-2002 12:01									#4
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apolyton banners do and will appear on the bottom banner

and just to be sure that our apolyton culture reaches our american brothers, i'm including all store banners in the bottom banner rotation

	27-08-2002 13:12									#5
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OK. Copied from the 'other' thread.

That flashing red banner will result in some epileptic fits.

	27-08-2002 14:50									#6
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* Zopperoni loves Ultra-Light style

	27-08-2002 18:26									#7
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Actual I prefer to have two banners on the top I already missed the second one. (It is much easier to ignore the one on the bottom.)

Instead of the second one I get now something like this (in Netscape 4.78):

-Martin

Attachment: banner.jpg
This has been downloaded 155 time(s).

Last edited by Martin Gühmann on 27-08-2002 at 22:19

	27-08-2002 22:16									#8
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

what's your browser?

	27-08-2002 22:21									#9
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Why must the forum interpret this sign alone as html code:

PHP:


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	27-08-2002 22:31									#10
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good god martin, cant you upgrade to mozilla?
the code is fine in ie and mozilla...

	27-08-2002 22:32									#11
	Tired of ads?

and i cant find a cd with netscape 4 in order to install it and check this out....

	28-08-2002 00:03									#12
	Suffering from ads?

I'm using the default setting... and I'm getting pounded with pop up ads. Should I be using a different setting?

And yes, I know it sometimes changes, and I need to update my profile to correct it. But even after JUST doing that... more pop ups.

	28-08-2002 00:10									#13
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG good god martin, cant you upgrade to mozilla? the code is fine in ie and mozilla...

As I tried last time Mozzilla I had an big error message on the bottom of the browser in big read letters, that reduced the browser windows size. Actual Netscape 4.78 looks much better. The browser window looks bigger. The address line is much longer, because it has its own seperate line. And afterwards I tried Mozzilla the last time and I returned to Netscape 6.2 it screwed up the whole Apolyton forum, only removing everything from the cache helped. And Netscape 4.78 can display the size of this reply box according to my screen resolution correctly. The background of this reply box I am just using uses my windows document color and also all the bottons have the same color as my windows color.

quote: Originally posted by MarkG and i cant find a cd with netscape 4 in order to install it and check this out....

Who needs a CD if one could download it, Marcos? Just go to Netscape and download there Netscape Communicator 4.79 (the English version) or Netscape Communicator 4.51 (the Greek version). (The link will lead you to the language selection screen.)

	28-08-2002 00:22									#14
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Oh and by the way that's how it the default-guest style looks if you use Opera, same problem after log in just in CTP2 default style.

Hope Opera will allow me to attach a file, as I tried it last time in Opera it didn't worked IIRC, but that was Opera 5 now it is Opera 6.04.

Edit: It worked. By the way Markos why I have to relog in if I want just edit my post, although I am logged in. (Oh and I don't use cookies.)

-Martin

Attachment: operabanner.jpg
This has been downloaded 136 time(s).

	28-08-2002 00:33									#15
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quote: As I tried last time Mozzilla I had an big error message on the bottom of the browser in big read letters

on our forums?

i'm using mozilla without problems

	28-08-2002 00:35									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I'm using the default setting... and I'm getting pounded with pop up ads. Should I be using a different setting? And yes, I know it sometimes changes, and I need to update my profile to correct it. But even after JUST doing that... more pop ups.

could you post a screenshot of those pop ups?

it seems some of the new 468x60 ads also serve pop-ups

	28-08-2002 00:44									#17
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG on our forums? i'm using mozilla without problems

Yes but this problem was right there as I started the browser. It was on the bottom edge of the browser window itself and looked like a html fragment. Maybe I downloaded a wrong build, although it said it was version 1.0, but it was the version without the unzipper program, so I am waiting for version 1.1 final.

-Martin

	28-08-2002 02:35									#18
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I'm not in the US and I don't want to see the new ads

I wonder how the visitors nationality is checked...

	28-08-2002 02:48									#19
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you're using aol, which is taken as US....

	28-08-2002 03:12									#20
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Interesting that I see those ads of Real Media (the banner I posted was actualy meant for America exclusively, too), and I thought my provider should be considered as a German one.

Schee: There are a lot of possibilities, to find out where you live, you don't brwose the internet anonymiously. First everyone browses with a unique IP address though the www. Of course usually your provider gives you everytime you log in a different IP address but the provider logs the address, and you can find out to which provider this IP address belongs. As the forum logs the IP addresses Markos just needs to ask your provider who uses this address at this time. But there are also other possibilities to find out something about your computer. If you browse your browser reveals itsself as IE 5.5 German version for example, it also reveals information about your operating system like Win 98, CPU ... This is usefull so that page designer can offer optimized versions of the pages for your browser and computer. Of course this can also be abused. Like: "Oh you can't view this page, because you don't uses the newest version of IE." and this guy gave me on his home page an error message. So I found that was worth some measures and revisited his page with Opera and use the Pretend as stupid IE 5.5 option.

-Martin

Last edited by Martin Gühmann on 28-08-2002 at 03:18

	28-08-2002 03:17									#21
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Double Post

-Martin

	28-08-2002 03:38									#22
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Hmmm... Mozilla 1.1 Beta on Win XP and no problems with viewing Poly, except that the browser tends to cause the system to freeze completely. Anyway, I do recommend abstaining from the 1.1 Beta version, and instead get Mozilla 1.0 or Netscape 6.2. The preview release of 7.0 should be ok.

Martin,

Netscape Communicator 4.8 is the latest version of the 4 series.

Markos,

you can still download Netscape Navigator 2.0 if you want to, so geting 4.8 shouldn't be a problem at all.

Netscape Products: Archived Products

	28-08-2002 03:41									#23
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our "country indentification" code is not highly sophisticated. it just looks at your dns. com and net domains are treated as US "locations"

martin, let me know if you get the ads now. it should take your isp as a non-US one

	28-08-2002 03:43									#24
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it's ok ras, i found netscape 4.7 in an old cd

	28-08-2002 08:22									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann Maybe I downloaded a wrong build, although it said it was version 1.0, but it was the version without the unzipper program, so I am waiting for version 1.1 final.

1.1 Final is out. Works great. Downloaded today, biggest change is that the icons are different and many of the bugs are killed. It also loads faster on my computer. But it should be good.

	28-08-2002 11:26									#26
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Thanks, tniem!

I must have been completely blind for the past 3 days 1.1 has been available for download, as there's a news bulletin about it on the front page at mozilla.org and I haven't noticed it. The point is that I use the site as my home page.

	28-08-2002 15:57									#27
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Martin Gühmann : I know that, but I thought they were using the language specified by the browser.

	28-08-2002 17:08									#28
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I still get the real media banners. The problem in Netscape 4.78 still exists. The odd thing is as I started today I saw no banners irrespective of the browser I used no banners in IE 5.5 in Nestcape 4.78, in Netscape 6.2 and in Opera, after reloading the pages several times the adds returned except the top banner in Netscape 4.78 that returned afterwrads the forum was up again. And in Opera the banners are still missing.

quote: Originally posted by Schee Martin Gühmann : I know that, but I thought they were using the language specified by the browser.

Sorry that I told you to much.

The language specification wouldn't work, because I could go to http://mozilla.org and download from there Mozilla 1.1 (the English version) and wouldn't download a language pack that would allow me to specify the preffered language as German of course I could also select US English, so over the brower I could fake it. By the way this post is written with Mozzilla 1.1 (English), actual I wanted to have an German version but I didn't check the link to long. So I end with the English version. Unfortunately the latest German version of Netscape Communicator is 4.78, not 4.8 I knew that there it is available in only in English. (Fortunatly I am not the only persion here who tells to much. ) But still the feeling between Nestcape 4.78 and Mozzilla 1.1 is different.

	28-08-2002 18:51									#29
	Put an end to popups!

"…in Opera the banners are still missing…"

Whoa! Sign me up!

	28-08-2002 22:24									#30
	Tired of ads?

I can fake my IP as well, I'm currently using an Hungarian proxy and I see a "Kittens are in danger" ad...
(Hum... or maybe I haven't understand at all and you were not saying that the language specification would be bad because you can fake it )