27-08-2002 08:38									#1
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Could someone point me in the right direction.

Watching the local news there was a report to print the future ballots in many languages.


I wish to formally file a complaint, but don't know where to start.


My reasons:
The requirements for administrative naturalization is an ability to read, write and speak English.


This is a waste of taxpayers money to print so many ballots in so many different languages.

Lil help?


thanks Doc

	27-08-2002 08:42									#2
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This is a great example of Democrats working to ursurp our country.

	27-08-2002 08:43									#3
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The only way this would concern me is if I got a ballot in a language OTHER than English.


Why should you care?

	27-08-2002 08:52									#4
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While you're at it, why don't you petition to have all of the names of the states chnaged to English. You could also petition to have those dirty foreigners expelled from the country.

	27-08-2002 09:04									#5
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What really bothers me the most is the diversity of the American populace.

It seems to me that rather than be an "American" most people would rather fall into a (_ _ _ _ _ -American)
exe. African-American, Irish- American, Asian-American and so on.


Rather than be a melting pot there are all these sub group Americans, That I find offending.

The primary language of MY country is American english.

I feel my American heratage is being threatned.


I am American, not white, black or yellow American but just plain red, white and blue American.

Americans have no one color of people but we have one common language. (or should have)


This is why I care.





Doc

	27-08-2002 09:05									#6
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Hey! please don't put words in my mouth.


My beef is about being an American.

	27-08-2002 09:11									#7
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quote: While you're at it, why don't you petition to have all of the names of the states chnaged to English. You could also petition to have those dirty foreigners expelled from the country.

No, but I have a very, very, very low opinion of any person who chooses to live in the US and not learn English first. My opinion of them drops even lower when they don't teach their kids English before any other language.

	27-08-2002 09:23									#8
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doc,

what you need to understand is that the democratic party has learned that the path to political power is to pit the various segments of our population against what was at one time the core of our nation...WASPs.

they have systematically peeled off layer after layer and portrayed each segment as victims....blacks versus the WASPs, indians versus the WASPs, gays versus the WASPs, women versus the suddenly all male WASPs, union members versus the WASPs, students versus the WASPs, environmentalists versus the WASPs, urban persons versus the WASPs, handicapped persons versus the WASPs, etc ad nauseum.

All of these groups vote democratic because they have bought into the myth that only the democratic party stands between them and oppression by tryanical WASPists.

They even diluted the military vote by piting veterans versus the WASPs.

Now of course as soon as someone starts to complain about this language measure they will use it to inflame the fear of the WASPs among all those who speak English as a second language.

Melting pot? The only thing melting in America is the Republican party which will probably be extinct within 20 years. And surely replaced by a socialist party even farther to the left than the liberals we have to deal with now.

	27-08-2002 09:29									#9
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Sad... I see that quite a bit.


If one is to become American then there loyalty should be English first.


(Should never forget where they come from.)

It is hard to succed in America if they don't learn American english.


What is the incentive to learn American english if all printed materile is in the native tounge./?sp




(hell, look at me I cant even spell it)

	27-08-2002 09:30									#10
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Im sorry,

What is a WASP?

	27-08-2002 09:32									#11
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a flying insect, no......a white anglo-saxon protestant...

	27-08-2002 09:35									#12
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WASP

White Anglo-Saxon Protesant

	27-08-2002 09:38									#13
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And if the democrats had their way you would only need a green card or a passport to vote and they would run ferrys and buses from Mexico and Canada on election day.

	27-08-2002 09:40									#14
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I forgot CUBA! Viva the revolution!

	27-08-2002 09:41									#15
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Really?

I vote democrat and I am jewish by birth.



( Hmmmm.....I wonder what group I fall into? )

My complaint is not based on voting party or skin color but this should concern all Americans.

	27-08-2002 09:43									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Docfeelgood Really? I vote democrat and I am jewish by birth.

Exactly.

	27-08-2002 09:45									#17
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Now that's odd......


it is the republicans who pushed to have these non-english ballot cards

	27-08-2002 09:47									#18
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Then you must be in Florida.

	27-08-2002 10:18									#19
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Texas


Do ya know where, what and to whom I may file a complaint?

	27-08-2002 10:23									#20
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Oh, Texas is just Florida-west now. Sounds like you need to send an envelop containing white powder to Occupant, 1600 Pennslyvania Ave., Washington, DC.

Just kidding.

	27-08-2002 10:25									#21
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quote: No, but I have a very, very, very low opinion of any person who chooses to live in the US and not learn English first. My opinion of them drops even lower when they don't teach their kids English before any other language.

This is exactly what my great grandparents did, they lived in a russian community and my grandfather went into kindergarden speaking barely any english. This happens with every new wave of immigration, assimilation takes a generation or two just give it time and the current hispanic wave will be borged just like every one that came before it

	27-08-2002 10:36									#22
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quote: This is exactly what my great grandparents did, they lived in a russian community and my grandfather went into kindergarden speaking barely any english. This happens with every new wave of immigration, assimilation takes a generation or two just give it time and the current hispanic wave will be borged just like every one that came before it

But my point is that people should not come to America if they can't speak English first. Just basic politeness, I would think. I wouldn't emigrate to China without first learning Chinese, and neither should a Mexican come to the US without learning English.

	27-08-2002 11:08									#23
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What's the funding status of ESL (English as a Second Language) classes in America? Are they getting any federal, state or local dollars to help the language process along?

Gatekeeper

	27-08-2002 11:13									#24
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It's DocFeelGood? Where have you been man?


Anyway, I agree with Dave Floyd wholeheartedly. This is not the 18th century where people were forced to immigrate because they were slaves or criminals... if someone comes here and makes this country their new home, they should have at least some sort of respect for this country by at least learning the language! And a true citizen of this country must at least be able to speak the language of this country!

Democracy is a political system that thrives because of a certain level of free flow of information and public discussion. Democracy can not survive if the population can not communicate with each other... and it's far easier for a minority of immigrants to learn english then the majority to learn a myriad of languages. Immigrants should conform to us... not us to them...


thanks

	27-08-2002 11:59									#25
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Long time no see!

I still come around, once in a while.
I just don't post that much, too many young inmature new people.
Hard to git an adult conversation going anymore like we use to do.

( they are too easily offended by adult conversations)
( yea! you know who you fvcking are!)


Well I sent an e-mail to the secretary general of the state of Texas.

If I have not made a asss out of my self I will share the responce with yall.



BTW

Albert
good to see ya still come around

like you Malcom pic

	27-08-2002 12:39									#26
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quote: Originally posted by jimmytrick And if the democrats had their way you would only need a green card or a passport to vote and they would run ferrys and buses from Mexico and Canada on election day.

You must like making things up about people you don't agree with. Thats not only completely bogus its completely unconstitutional.

	30-08-2002 14:14									#27
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This is the response to my e-mail.





Mr. *********, you raise valid questions which we cannot answer.
I've
attached a link to INS, the agency that should be able to answer your
specific questions:
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/index.htm.

	30-08-2002 14:23									#28
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Docfeelgood, I'm sorry, I speak only english, not American english. Can I still come? .

I agree with most of you. If a person wants to come there for good, he/she should learn the language. It should be a top priority! I wouldn't want to live in some place, if I wouldn't understand what others speak or read the local papers. To some it can be a big job to learn a new language, but at least people should try hard to learn it.

But I wouldn't send someone away because of it, what better way to learn is there than come and live in the place? Maybe there should be a system, that when you come in, they test your abilities. Then they'll give you a new appointment time, lets say in a year. Then you take that test again if you failed the first time. After you've been living in the country for a year, and tried hard to learn the language.. I think only few would fail, maybe some old people.

	30-08-2002 14:25									#29
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And don't you come here unless you speak perfect finnish. And don't say you don't want to come, you just use it as an excuse, because you won't learn it no matter how hard you try . So keep out!

	30-08-2002 14:30									#30
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And now I realize I should of read the thread first .

Sorry about that one, I made a fool out of myself. I agree with the topic. If you want to vote and you are a citizen, you should be able to speak english.
So what if the information is only in english? If you don't want to learn the language, then don't vote.