02-09-2002 18:34									#1
	Is this game worth getting? Suffering from ads?

I want to know if this game is worth buying, you know with PTW coming out I wanted to see if the old games are really better than the new. And does this game requier the original call to power????

	02-09-2002 19:16									#2
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call to power(CTP) and call to power2(CTP2) are both complete games in their own right so you won't need one to run the other.
If you can get them cheap(around $12 say), then they are a definate must have(I've got one copy of CTP and two of CTP2). They are different games to civ, but the general idea is almost the same.
You will find most replys you get here will be positive towards both games - we are CTP/CTP2 fans. These games are not supported by their publishers any more and only here will you find people still trying to change the games for the better.
Old games being better than new? Well some are - i like to track down 'classic' games and i'd have CTP/CTP2 in that list.
hope this helps a little in your decision.

	02-09-2002 19:25									#3
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CTP2 is a crap, better buy Civilization III.

	02-09-2002 19:53									#4
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I already have Civ III

	02-09-2002 20:03									#5
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I think he just meant what he said. He thinks CTP2 is crap, and if it helps i might get PTW(but don't own Civ3) when it comes out. Again if you can get them cheap then it's not money wasted - give them a chance, read the overview of the mods to try(CTP2 is best played with a Mod), and if you have problems with any of the mod setup there are people here to help you get it sorted.

	02-09-2002 20:10									#6
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If you can get it cheap, go for it

	02-09-2002 20:17									#7
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Are there space colonies in CTP2? And underwater cities???? Can you colonize new planets?? And is 15$ considered cheap enough to get it? Also do the mods contain new units?

Last edited by Republic_Outlaw on 02-09-2002 at 20:27

	02-09-2002 20:34									#8
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no, yes, no, yes but don't stop looking for cheaper, yes mostly.

	02-09-2002 20:42									#9
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Sweet, thats good enough for me, this game has more options than Civ3, I like

	02-09-2002 20:43									#10
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Im defenently goin to best buy tonight, WOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

	02-09-2002 20:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Republic_Outlaw Are there space colonies in CTP2? And underwater cities???? Can you colonize new planets?? And is 15$ considered cheap enough to get it? Also do the mods contain new units?

There are no space colonies in CTP2. They dropped it, because of gameplay issures and maybe Activision financal problems were too huge at this time to implement this. But it has underwater cities (one reason why CTP2 is better then Civ3). You can't colonize new planets if you mean you start on a map and at the end you move to a new map. That would be an interesting feature but not easy to find a good way to implement it.

15$ I think I already heard that it is possible to get it cheaper I never tried it, because I bought it right afterwards the release here in Germany.

For your last question: It depends on the mod that you want to use, for instance Cradle, MedPack2 and WAW use a different tech tree and therefore you will also find new units in these mods, more conservative is the ApolytonPack it just fixes and improves mainly CTP2. And finally there is my mod GoodMod it adds a lot of new trade goods to the game and improves the game more then the ApolytonPack does. In order to reduce the download size it is only avalaible for MedPack2 ApolytonPack and CityMod2. So if you got CTP2 for a nice price download the patch and one of the mods.

XarXo: Could you explain me why CTP2 is "crap". I could make a huge list of reasons why Civ3 is not as good as CTP2, I already mentioned one reason and actual it is only a minor one in comparision I could name. But actual this is another topic. If you call it "crap" then you have to give us reasons for that. If you can't then just be quiet. Thank you.

-Martin

	02-09-2002 21:08									#12
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Can you have 2 mods at a time or just one? And whats the best mod? AND CAN YOU EVEN BUY THIS GAME IN A STORE ANYMORE SINCE ITS SOOOO OLD?

Last edited by Republic_Outlaw on 02-09-2002 at 21:14

	02-09-2002 21:24									#13
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I've seen it overhear(old blighty....er U.K.) in our main games retailers for £4.99($6?) it(and CTP1(£3.99)) seem to have just been re-released under a budget label, so look around your stores first to see if they've done the same. $15 is o.k but if you look a bit more i'm sure it could be cheaper.Bargin
Best Mod is down to the individual i guess - i like Craddle as it's got an extended ancient age. Best read the Mod right up(Craddle,MedMod,Apolyton) by Locutus(topped thread at the top of this forum), and take it from there.Good luck in your hunt for CTP2, it really is an underrated game by many, but with the mods it gets a whole new lease of life.

	02-09-2002 21:26									#14
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He didn't say it was crap. He said it was "a crap". I guess that means you can get good roses out of it. I dunno.

R_O, you can have as many mods as you like, though obviously you can only play one at a time, and you can't swap mods and try to reload a saved game from a different mod. ModSwapper (in the directory) lets you choose between them.

The mods are compared in another (topped) thread in this forum.

You should be able to get it in a shop still, but if not, you can get good rates on eBay even including postage.

	02-09-2002 21:28									#15
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I think he just meant what he said. He thinks CTP2 is crap, and if it helps i might get PTW(but don't own Civ3) when it comes out. Again if you can get them cheap then it's not money wasted - give them a chance, read the overview of the mods to try(CTP2 is best played with a Mod), and if you have problems with any of the mod setup there are people here to help you get it sorted.

Just download a peer-to-peer program, wait for November or search another thing.

But I've to say that CTP2 is a waste of time, I've played with mods and still a crap (but is only my opinion, look these fanatics ).

	02-09-2002 21:28									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Republic_Outlaw Can you have 2 mods at a time or just one?

Only if one mod is designed to be a add on of another mod like GoodMod. Otherwise you would have to do it on your own.

quote: Originally posted by Republic_Outlaw And whats the best mod?

Test them all, MedPack is designed to give the medieval era an important part, Cradle focus on the acient era and WAW is for the time period between 1900 and 1950. It depends on you what you will use. Personally I use GoodMod for ApolytonPack. But keep in my mind I am the author of GoodMod.

quote: Originally posted by Republic_Outlaw AND CAN YOU EVEN BUY THIS GAME IN A STORE ANYMORE SINCE ITS SOOOO OLD?

It might be possible to find it in a real store. But it might be more expensive there than you would by it at an internet shop. But actual I can#T give you a tip about it, because I didn't buy the game online.

-Martin

	02-09-2002 21:29									#17
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can you have 2 mods at once? And im shure its cheaper because at best buy the were selling this game with the original buy one get five free (with other older games). Not bad huh?

	02-09-2002 21:32									#18
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you can have 2 at once, but not play two at once (together)

	02-09-2002 21:34									#19
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k, well I will start my scavenging soon, thanks for all your help!

	02-09-2002 21:38									#20
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one more question, if you buy it in a store does it come w/a manuel?

	02-09-2002 21:41									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat He didn't say it was crap. He said it was "a crap". I guess that means you can get good roses out of it. I dunno.

I don't know either. But as long as he can't explain why, I will take it just as "crap" without the article. I guess he played it, it wasn't Civ2 and abandoned it, even with mods CTP2 is not Civ2 and not Civ3 either, fortunatly.

-Martin

	02-09-2002 21:44									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Republic_Outlaw one more question, if you buy it in a store does it come w/a manuel?

yup. should do. Some places might even bundle it with the strategy guide. Not that either are worth the paper they're printed on.

	02-09-2002 21:45									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Republic_Outlaw one more question, if you buy it in a store does it come w/a manuel?

If you buy a unused copy with the original untoughed packing then it will also contain the manual. But actual the manual doesn't contain much more pieces of information, but maybe could be usefull.

-Martin

	02-09-2002 21:49									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Republic_Outlaw one more question, if you buy it in a store does it come w/a manuel?

Well it might(if you don't get it on a budget label), but most likely it will be in PDF file format on the actual cd , i think you can download it from somewhere in the CTP2 files section(I could be completely wrong on this!!!).
Anyway the manual is not really very helpfull , except for a few things i suppose. Put it this way i never read it apart from the installing bit, untill after i had played it for a month or so.

	02-09-2002 21:51									#25
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well guess that settles it off to Best Buy, Thanks everybody

	02-09-2002 22:13									#26
	Got spare money?

You can think hundred of times. but get CTP2 at the end and install the Super Apolyton Pack (The non-official patch). fun is garanteed.
Later on move to others mods.

Still dont expect a civ3 variation. It is a much deeper game.

	02-09-2002 22:46									#27
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Thats what I like, this game has buildings you can build outside your town to increase growth and stuff, im happier that a grand mother right now, WOOOHOOO!!!!LETS PARTY!

	03-09-2002 01:36									#28
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Well I looked at Wal*Mart, Best Buy, and Circuit City and no game not even the new one. I guess I have to buy online. *sigh*

	03-09-2002 01:51									#29
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The cheapest they have on eBay is $6.95, most are $10 ish.

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	03-09-2002 02:45									#30
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Is there any store I can get it at I think I just wont get it at all. Civ 3 will be fine till PTW comes out............... I wish I could find it at a store