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Buster13
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Cleveland, OH
Nov 2001
time: 00:22
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How about a whole new level of Civ insanity:
Religious Preference:
You could research them just like governments, could incorporate with the polytheistic and monotheistic techs that exist already, but could add...
Atheism (the middle-ground between switching religions)
Christianity (Bonus to production but -1 happiness per city due to guilt).
Taoism (penalty to production unless enlightened and then every build is instantanous since it's action through inaction, reduces pollution)
Judaism (bonus to gold, military unit costs reduced, penalty to happiness since the promised one hasn't come for 4000 years...)
Confusionism (Bonus to Science, penalty to production because of all the time quoting Confusious)
Druidic (Bonus to Food growth, requires two fur resources to maintain the Clerical wardrobe, or you slip into atheism)
Islam (dare I go there....I....I just can't) Bonus to happiness since they don't carry the Christian guilt, resistence to propaganda except from own government, resistent to Democracy. There, I almost did it...
Anglican (Makes up own rules)
Methodist (Same as christianity with a gold bonus)
Shinto (+2 happiness per city, cannot exist during wartime)
Zen...........
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sabrewolf
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turicum, helvetistan
Jun 2002
time: 06:22
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if we're going to be politicaly incorrect, i'll add my ideas too.. it's just humour, don't take it serious 
catholicism: first 5 gold in each city goes to the capital (e.g. rome). advantage: helps converting people of smaller religions (like indios, african tribes)
protestantism: makes people further away from the capital happier. costs less
sectism: converts people slowly, production loss, costs a lot, but converted people survive apocalyptical scenarios (e.g. nuclear wars, alien invasion, etc.) 
judaism: 25% more trade, conversion to other religions nearly impossible. disadvantage: every several hundred years people of this religion get ethnicly cleansed
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dirtstylez79
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If u ad religion to civilization its gonna end up a game like Age of Empire
No civ building or trading or diplomacy or advancement
plain stupid war all the time ,
even people between your civilization will fight themself
and its gonna be one of the dumbest game to play
Like the world today ,wich war is created by Religion and profit.
And dont even talk about Israel , because i know jewish people and they can even tell u that Isreal is the same thing as germany under nazi rule.
Big pot of BS for nothing , people there got the same bloodline and they will still fight 5000 years from now for a little piece of cake
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LionQ
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Capelle aan den IJssel [near Rotterdam], The Netherlands
Jul 2002
time: 06:22
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quote:
Originally posted by sabrewolf
and so on...
but serious: if there were religions in civ3, there should also be a percentage of faith.
100% means no science, no contacts to other religions, but also no unhappiness
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0% means max. progress, but no temples, cathedrals and other religious happiness-productions |
That's a good point, then you have to find the excellent balance between atheism or completely religious. But I don't think religion should be added more to the game then just the CivAbility: Religious. It's ok this way. Israel is a special case in this, because they are the only country with their religion, so if you'd add Israel to the game, you're immediately adding the Jewish Religion. With other Civs it isn't that way: America is not the defender of the Christly ( ) religion, for instance.
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Ozymandias
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quote:
Originally posted by CivilopediaCity
That's a good point, then you have to find the excellent balance between atheism or completely religious. But I don't think religion should be added more to the game then just the CivAbility: Religious. |
Agreed entirely -- as I mentioned above, religions have (in many cases) indulged in ritual murder, which I daresay Buddhism wouldn't condone -- so we'd have to get into the Civ "properties" of each religion ...
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It's ok this way. Israel is a special case in this, because they are the only country with their religion, so if you'd add Israel to the game, you're immediately adding the Jewish Religion. |
Hmm... But for the common set of enemies, it might be argued that Israel is really TWO Civs, a religious-Jewish one with Jerusalem as its capital, and a secular-Jewish one with Tel Aviv as its.
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With other Civs it isn't that way: America is not the defender of the Christly ( ) religion, for instance. |
Thank God for that -- except of course there is currently a very politically activist "Christian" right-wing in the good old U.S.ofA. who really believe that we are in the hallucinatory "End-Days" of the Book of Revelations and seem willing (nay, eager) to attempt to guide national policy accordingly ... Did I mention that part of the pre-requisite for this Biblical "Game-Over" is Armageddon?
Yours Fervently Behind Separation Of Church & State,
Oz
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Ozymandias
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quote:
Originally posted by ilcattolico
America is not basically "English." America is a melting pot of people from all over Europe, Latin America & other regions of the world. America has its own culture and is very different from England. |
... which brings us back to my favorite (and perhaps unanswerable) question, "What is a civilization" -- back in the lonago 1980s, one of the editors of the Washington Post wrote a book called "The Nine Nations Of North America" which, irrespective of actual national boundaries, compelling identified nine geographically contiguous, very different cultural "nations", spanning from his albeit glibly named "Ecotopia" (the North Pacific coast from about the Big Sur to well north of Vancouver) to an essentially Latin Caribbean "nation" with Miami as its capitol. Each area was well-defined by economy and culture -- and that's after the 20th century incarnation of the Great American Melting Pot had largely done its job.
-Oz
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cronos_qc
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Québec City
Nov 2002
time: 00:22
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not so many people here, told the fact that:
Arabs bring in Europa(in the middle age) , Aristote(dont know in english), Platon, Pythagore and a lot of old greek thinker...
Arabs was an advanced scientific society in the MiddleAge, mathematic, astronomy, chemistry(alchemy), and when Platon, Aristote, Pythagore was more know by European, he bring us Renaissance.
I've see some post here told us that if Arabs was in the game,why not Israel?
Because Arabs refer to the Middle Age and not now. Israel does not write history for now..( maybe in the futur... in next world war ) But Jews are represented in the game by Hebrews.
So have a nice day... sorry for my orthographic/syntax error.
See Ya
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Rust
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Alberta
Nov 2001
time: 22:22
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quote:
Originally posted by cronos_qc
Arabs bring in Europa(in the middle age) , Aristote(dont know in english), Platon, Pythagore and a lot of old greek thinker...
Arabs was an advanced scientific society in the MiddleAge, mathematic, astronomy, chemistry(alchemy), and when Platon, Aristote, Pythagore was more know by European, he bring us Renaissance.
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See I thought that was the Iranians, that were advanced, and the Arabs take credit for it.
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Traelin
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Miami, FL, US
Nov 2001
time: 00:22
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quote:
Originally posted by dirtstylez79
And dont even talk about Israel , because i know jewish people and they can even tell u that Isreal is the same thing as germany under nazi rule.
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That's just plain silly and uninformed. But I'm not gonna go into this one, I'm just tired of defending the same points over and over again.
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30-10-2002 17:45
I think I've just been having arguements all the time 
What do you mean "the middle-ground between switching religions" and where are my bonuses?!?!?!?
the only way it could work is if you offended everyone equally.
) might there be some inherent possibility of human decency?
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