08-09-2002 00:32									#1
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(inspired by a different thread. But because this is a different subject and that thread is probably going to spin off in thousands of directions right about....now, I'd like this question answered.)

Not being form the United STates, I sometimes wonder what everyone has against Utah. Despite being Mormon Fanatics (which does bug me a little, being....not mormon) it's a.....sort of good place to be. Low (in most places) crime, great place to raise children if you can steer them away from Utah Mormon Propaganda....

But sometimes when I go up to someone else in a different state, their concerned and even scared that I come from Utah and that I might be a mormon.

So whats this anti-mormon anti-utah thing all about? Help the Russian.

	08-09-2002 00:34									#2
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Because Utah's anti-everything. Half of my bookmarked sites are listed as being illegal in that state.

	08-09-2002 00:36									#3
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I have no problem with Utah at all, in any way shape or form.

As for mormons, I think it's the polygamy (sp?) thing that many people oppose. I really couldn't care less.

	08-09-2002 00:37									#4
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Utah's got gorgeous scenery, but not a whole lot else besides that.

	08-09-2002 00:40									#5
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I had a gay mormon friend who moved to Utah and is now straight and urging me to covert so I can be straight too.

Stuff like that, I'd imagine.

	08-09-2002 00:43									#6
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Maybe I get a little disturbed by a lake that get so thick you can walk on it.

	08-09-2002 00:47									#7
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Is Utah still a dry state or can you buy hooch there these days?

Another one- is it still illegal to have any form of sex that involves the removal of clothing or involves bodily contact?

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I don't think anybody's anti-Utah -- Utah's the prettiest country I've ever seen, and the skiing is great.

OTOH, a lot of people are anti-Utavian. Gotta have something to do with Mormons, but personally my peeve is their drivers -- the worst I've ever seen *including Romans*. People so damn sure they're going to heaven they drive like they can't wait to get there.

	08-09-2002 01:35									#9
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I'm glad the Mormons have found a religion they like but do they really have to try to force it upon everyone else with the same demonic zeal as the Muslim Fantics?

On a funnier note can you folks believe a group of Mormons actually tried to get any drinks which contained Caffine to be outlawed in Utah? Apparently, Mormons believe caffine is "unpure" and good god fearing people should never consume anything which contains caffine. They there for decided there should be a law proventing anyone, including nonmormons, from buying things like coffee or Coke. Luckily this law didn't get passed by the, Mormon dominated, Utah state congress.

	08-09-2002 01:41									#10
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Mormons aren't all bad. Read the Doom books. They can give you an interesting prespective on the religion.

	08-09-2002 01:51									#11
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Oh, I have several friends who are Mormon and they are nice people. It is just the constinent attempts to convert me that I don't like.

	08-09-2002 01:55									#12
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Doom books? As in, based on Doom the video game?

A group of Mormon "elders" (who looked to be in their early twenties) knocked on my door the other day and wanted to share the good news with me (or whatever term they used for it), but they hardly struck me as fanatics. My reply to them was "I'd feel guilty about wasting your time if you tried to share the good news with me because I'm a stubborn bastard and your preaching is going to fall on deaf ears" (or something equivalent to that, except maybe a bit more tactful), and they took my statement as the polite brush-off that it was and went away (rather than try to jam a foot in the door, as I'd expect a zealot or fanatic to do).

	08-09-2002 01:59									#13
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Yes, as in based on Doom the game.

It is suppose to be kinda like a Mormon epic.

	08-09-2002 02:12									#14
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Utah -- "Our Jesus is better than your Jesus."

	08-09-2002 02:46									#15
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I got with a Mormon girl.

Aside from that, I think Utah is disliked because it is like a freak island in the middle of the states; an isolationist, puritan, polygamist hideout. They disallow booze, but **** their twenty wives. A land of controversy. Like England during the middle ages. BUT, they do have some of the nicest mountain biking in the world.

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	08-09-2002 04:17									#17
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po·lyg·a·my - The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time. Also called plural marriage.
po·lyg·y·ny - The condition or practice of having more than one wife at one time.
pol·y·an·dry - The condition or practice of having more than one husband at one time.

My problem with Utah is its high concentration of Christians with a capital C.

	08-09-2002 04:21									#18
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You lika the bold, eh?

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My problem with Utah is the racist, ultra-evangelical religion which calls it home. The Mormon faith teaches that Black people are black because they are the decendents of Ham or Shem or whomever it was that saw Noah naked and got cursed for it. Being turned black was the curse. Dennis Rodman was right.

	08-09-2002 07:24									#20
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I don't agree with any religions "zealot", Mormons are one of 'em. That's my reason for not liking Utah....that, and they're the host of BYU....just check my sig.

Religious zealots suck the big one.....

	08-09-2002 08:11									#21
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Anyone ultra-religious scares me.
Anyone who lets other people do the majority of thinking for them scares me.

	08-09-2002 10:29									#22
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The've got all the self-righteousness of "proper" Yankees*, and none of the toughness or ingenuity. They live in the middle of a facking desert. They have no real industry to speak of. Their state's boundaries are all straight lines. Not all people from Utah are like that, but the majority that I saw were. I have friends there, but I'm never going back. Texas, on the other hand, is none of those things. Other than self-righteous, but we back it up with our strong military presence!

	08-09-2002 10:34									#23
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i got two mormon friends

one is very devout, the other isnt

and neither push their beliefs
actually, they keep their beliefs very private when they arent with other mormons.

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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes I got with a Mormon girl.

So did she mind if you dated other women at the same time?

	08-09-2002 10:44									#25
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I don't dislike Utah, I just laugh at it because of its ultra-conservative history.

As for Mormons, there is a pretty fair concentration of them where I live. I don't think that most of them are too devout, as I don't get many conversion attempts. Those who have tried have reached an understanding that if they don't push me, I won't heckle them.

By the way, does anyone find it ironic that a significant number of Las Vegas backers were and are Mormon?

	08-09-2002 10:47									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Ron Jeremy Is Utah still a dry state or can you buy hooch there these days? Another one- is it still illegal to have any form of sex that involves the removal of clothing or involves bodily contact?

Yes you can buy hooch there. There are no bars though, they're CLUBS
You have to buy a membership to drink in them. When we were there we had to buy guest memberships so we could drink for those couple of days. The clubs are great because there aren't really many morons in them.

Some GREAT golf courses up in the hills.

And in general, I agree with those that have previously said, most of the mormons I know are nice. But their need to try to convert you is a bit annoying.

Rich

	08-09-2002 10:50									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Kirnwaffen By the way, does anyone find it ironic that a significant number of Las Vegas backers were and are Mormon?

Money, get away.
Get a good job with good pay and you're okay.
Money, it's a gas.
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I'll buy me a football team.

Money, get back.
I'm all right Jack keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, it's a hit.
Don't give me that do goody good bullshit.
I'm in the high-fidelity first class travelling set
And I think I need a Lear jet.

Money, it's a crime.
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise it's no surprise that they're
giving none away.

	08-09-2002 11:09									#28
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Did You Know:

The founder of BYU's motto was "I don't care how you bring them, just bring them young!".

	08-09-2002 11:11									#29
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while that how i thought BYU was spelt before someone more informed told me differrent, i hesitate to believe thats the motto of the founder.

	08-09-2002 11:27									#30
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Ninot

Try reading the history of the "Church". How many "Wives" did he have and what were there ages?