02-10-2002 02:14									#61
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So I assumed you hadn't bothered with a second city then? Sounds like just let them splatter themselves against your walls. I'm also wondering from whence they came, whether the peninsula-heavy lands of Greece will offer better protection, unless they come right off of the boats.

	03-10-2002 09:08									#62
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They focused against the hittities capital city. They were showing about 9 squares to the right of the capital. I created about 5 cities and lost all but one of them to the barbs. I had one built on a hill and several veteran shirmishers and a wall built. This city to my surprise was destroyed. It was a city of about 3 population. I had uncovered alot of the cities and so recieved a great deal of settlers that i used for new cities and adding to the cities. My capital was a size 5 city. Not bad but it was brutal watching the entire empire go to peices.

	03-10-2002 12:14									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Civfan They focused against the hittities capital city. They were showing about 9 squares to the right of the capital. I created about 5 cities and lost all but one of them to the barbs. I had one built on a hill and several veteran shirmishers and a wall built. This city to my surprise was destroyed. It was a city of about 3 population. I had uncovered alot of the cities and so recieved a great deal of settlers that i used for new cities and adding to the cities. My capital was a size 5 city. Not bad but it was brutal watching the entire empire go to peices.

Bad news
We better research some defenders quick

	03-10-2002 18:53									#64
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If vet skirmishers behind walls on a @%!$# hill can't stop them, what will in the early part of the game (besides Palace Guards)???

	03-10-2002 19:40									#65
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spearmen do a pretty good job if their vetern. I successfully defended one city from the barbarians with spearmen. Discover swordsmen and you cut them down to peices, but beware of the legions they use. Can cause some serious damage. Hey this is a challenging and fun scenario. Being difficult in wraith is what makes it even better. Dont worry everyone since the barbarians appear near my city I'll be the one dealing with them. Unless I lose the capital. Tough chance though!

	03-10-2002 20:53									#66
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Who are we waiting for take their turn?

	03-10-2002 23:38									#67
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I just discovered a worm had infected my PC.
you can get rid of it here: http://securityresponse.symantec.com

It's the W32 Bugbear.

Sorry, I don't know if it works itself in the gamefiles I uploaded.

BTW, it's Kull's turn. He will return today he said

	04-10-2002 05:33									#68
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OK guys I'm Back, and here's the game! I forget to set it for "Wait at end of Turn" on the first go-round, which is too bad since the Random Events generated a Desert Storm - and that would have made somebody's life miserable (probably the guy in Iraq!)

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	04-10-2002 07:23									#69
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quote: Originally posted by germanos Bad news We better research some defenders quick

Amen brother! The good news is we have some time until the first Hordes appear - thankfully they hold off for awhile (I forget the number of turns - though it's probably more than 20).

	04-10-2002 18:36									#70
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Well that says it all.

	05-10-2002 20:17									#71
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I PM-ed Stefan...

Can we all agree on a 48 hour time limit?? or 36 maybe?
Can I have ALL your votes please?
(one can always in advance when one is going away for some time)

	05-10-2002 20:32									#72
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48 houres will be enough. You can't expect a PBEM to move always very quick. You're dealing with people from all over the world, who sometimes also have other things to do.

	06-10-2002 06:44									#73
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Normally 48 hours would be fine, but since this game starts so slowly, I suggest a 24 hour limit for the first 20 moves (which gets us to 3000 BC). After that we go to 48 - All in favor?

(Speaking of Stefan......he hasn't posted to any threads on Apolyton since 9/25, so we may have to skip his turn)

	06-10-2002 09:07									#74
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I agree, let me know when I could take my turn.

	06-10-2002 16:38									#75
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Sorry folks... won't happen again

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	06-10-2002 18:20									#76
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hi everyone, 24 hour limit sounds cool. I have another proposal to speed this game up. How about we have the first person take 3 turns, second person 1 and rotate through this.
example:

Turn : 1
3= Hittite - Civfan
1= Babylonian - Diegoami
1= Assyrian - germanos
1= Egypt - Kull
1= Persia - Stefan
1= Greek - Steve
1= Minoan - Yop

Turn : 2
1= Hittite - Civfan
3= Babylonian - Diegoami
1= Assyrian - germanos
1= Egypt - Kull
1= Persia - Stefan
1= Greek - Steve
1= Minoan - Yop

anyways whats everyones feedback!

	06-10-2002 18:33									#77
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Hmmm...
Maybe.

I have now seen what the AI can screw up. In a simular game where the original scen wash "rushed" the first 100 turns, I playtested the scen, and did about 1000% better then the AI. Mind you, I was playing mindlessly, I just had to get some idea on the gameplay, and events in the first 100 turns...

Also, now that anybody knows the game is on, it may speed up by itself.
It may also help if one e-mails the next in line when they are done. I guess we check our mail more often then the site.

So I suggest everybody sends a PM with their e-mial adress to the person BEFORE them.

For easy reverence: could Kull make a list of the players in playing order and put this in his first post?
(my list is on page 2 I think, but low down)

	06-10-2002 20:23									#78
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germanos: Good idea! I edited the opening post to include player order and a 24 hour limit for the first 21 turns (that way it's 3 turns each).

CivFan: Your version of AI play is better than mine, but I have to agree with germanos - the AI will probably make EVERYONE unhappy! Losing an early turn or two can be overcome, but the AI can't be trusted to handle the Barbarians or place cities correctly. Hopefully the "24" limit will get people to check this thread more often so we can do even better.

All: If anyone expects an absence, please post it here in advance (for example, I'll be in a plane all day Tuesday, 10/8 - so I'm in trouble if my "24" starts Monday night!)

Let's build some Empires!!!

	06-10-2002 22:00									#79
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I hope I did this right, please let me know if I didn't (I took my turn, made sure 'always wait until end of turn' is set, hit ctl-N just to make - nothing happened, and then saved it).

It is the Minoans of Yop's turn

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	07-10-2002 01:28									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Steve Clark I hope I did this right, please let me know if I didn't (I took my turn, made sure 'always wait until end of turn' is set, hit ctl-N just to make - nothing happened, and then saved it).

	07-10-2002 16:18									#81
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A tribe of swordsmen joins the Minoan empire. A barbarian town spotted. We will storm the city next month.
NO MORE BARBARIANS ON CRETE.

Tyrann Yop

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	07-10-2002 17:08									#82
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Sorry. It turns out I cannot commit myself to a PBEM. You'll have to find another player

	07-10-2002 19:24									#83
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According to the PBEM FAQ, it is best to have 3-4 players (out of 7), else it would take real-life years to complete a game (unless the Wrath gets us first). I say we let the AI take over diegoami's spot.

	07-10-2002 22:37									#84
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i'll take over as the babylons then. its no problem. let the AI handle the barbs!

ok so i'm no the babylons

	07-10-2002 22:47									#85
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heres the file. i removed password for hittites incase anyone wants to play them


uploaded again. Before played as Babylon first then hittitaties to remove password... sorry all.

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	08-10-2002 02:23									#86
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wrong save, it says 3480 for Assyria. AI messed up.

Please repost

	08-10-2002 12:57									#87
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Town conquered.

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	08-10-2002 18:01									#88
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literally running to catch a plane.....

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	09-10-2002 18:34									#89
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Here we go.

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	09-10-2002 19:26									#90
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I'll take my turn tonight.

I have a problem. Something came up and I'm going to have to get on a plane to Florida Thursday morning. I won't be back to Colorado until Tuesday (family business emergency). I really hate for the AI to take over my turns this early in the game so I'm wondering if perhaps Kull can play my turns for me, with instructions from me?