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211 to Slamp

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turn 211 to Jon

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turn 212 to Jon

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Who has the turn ?

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Turn 213 To Slamp

My mailserver was down last night.

	23-01-2001 18:35									#66
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turn 213 to Jon

My polution graph says that we will have a new deasaster in 5 turns. What about you Swissy ?

	24-01-2001 10:38									#67
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Turn 214 to Slamp

My pollution chart says 109 turns. But, I have had readings of anywhere from 12 to 109 turns in just my last ten turns. I think that an event is upcomming as the Assyrians have a steep rise in pollution this turn, nearly as high as the Germans.

	24-01-2001 23:43									#68
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turn 214 to Jon,

My graphs says 4 turn and the next desaster will be flood I think

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Actually all the disaster after the second are "dead zone" ones. I examined the file for this event. Only the second disaster is a flood, and mainly effects swamps. I do think the rain of black gets greater as we go along.

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Turn 214 to Don.

I'm getting 'Dead' Tiles every Turn anyway so how can it be worse?

Is this a quirk of CD's Mod or have I just been incredibly unlucky in this game for I have never experienced anything like this before?

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"And I declared that the dead who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. But better than both is he who has not yet been, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun."

	25-01-2001 06:01									#71
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Any city with pollution over 100 will generate dead tiles in regular CTP, I think CD's mod lowers that to 90.

	26-01-2001 07:05									#72
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Turn 215 to Slamp

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216 to Slamp

Hmm, all the sudden it says disaster in two turns. Better start working on some beter sunscreen.

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turn 216 to Jon

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Turn 216 to Don

	01-02-2001 11:50									#76
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To the leaders of this world.

I fear a great disaster is upon us. I ended my turn and the following happened:

1) A noise unlike any I have heard from this game; very loud, very frieghtening.

2) The pollution messageicon appeared followed by a bunch of skull icons.

3) The city of Tula, which was centered on the screen, appeared to vanish. I could not tell for certain as the save bar flashed over it as the end of turn completed.

Perhaps it is well that APQS2 will be starting soon. All but four of my cities were island or coastal, and I do not look forward to opening my next turn.

Turn 217 to Slamp
[This message has been edited by Swissy (edited February 01, 2001).]

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Swissy you're right it's a big deasaster:
I lost 12 cities because of flood and 22 cities to Barbarians The 12 cities were major one with wonders and good production. So I lost a lot of gold and cities revolted

I have in fact only 3 cities left...
I'm on vacation next week so put me on AI. I think AI will be enougth intelligent to manage 3 cities.

See u

	02-02-2001 02:17									#78
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Fellow Polluters.

Whilst I have escaped with my Captol, and therefore any Barbarians, I have lost countless cities and in two Turns will be bankrupt. It looks like just about every wonder in the world has been destroyed and from being a continental landmass I am now an island group!

Never ever have I witnessed something as bad as this!

	02-02-2001 15:14									#79
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Jon I think you're more lucky than me..

Who are the most polluters ????

	02-02-2001 17:47									#80
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Wow! Sounds cool!

Would anyone care to send me a turn, so I can inspect the wreckage!!?

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218 to Jon

Lost 7 cities.

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Turn 218 to Don.

It gets even worse!

	06-02-2001 17:49									#83
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219 to Jon

It gets worse here to. The Barbarians paratrooped over to my island and took one city(retaken(n and destryoing another. I cannot afford to go to war. Seeing how aggressive these Barbarians are, I think Slamp may not have a civ to come back to.

	07-02-2001 03:52									#84
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Swissy, please resend Turn as I have received nothing.

I dread to think of what I will see!

	07-02-2001 04:56									#85
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Remember this post awhile back?

...

" quinns
Prince
California, USA
Oct 2000

posted November 30, 2000 12:47

This game is quite interesting! Someone nukes someone's entire nation because they stole some advance off
the internet (pretty serious offense! ) ... now nuclear winter rears it's ugly head to possibly destroy the whole earth! Quite educational."

...

Maybe the nuke attacks started it, then the pollution from factories, gov type, and population accelerated it. Just my two cents worth.

Mobius you sick puppy! You want to see the death and destruction of an entire world ... yeah you're right... that would be cool... send me a copy too if you please!

	07-02-2001 11:00									#86
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Quinns, I'll send you a copy of a turn. You'll need Slamps 10 settler Quick Start for the Apolyton Pak, and of course the Apolyton Pak itself, installed to open the file. The turns will be my Slamps turn before the disater and his turn after the disater, for comparison.

As far as the effects and cause of pollution, I have found CD mods to put more severity into the effects of pollution. My typical game has me racing to get communism so I out produce my opponent(AI or Human). The first time I tried that in an Apolyton Pak game, against AI, I found myself getting severe pollution effects very rapidly. I was use to seeing my cities produce about 30 units of pollution under communism. In the Apolyton Pak game, I was putting out over 70 units and my cities were not as large as I usually get them in an unmodified game.

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Turn to Don.

And things still get worse!

Bombarded from space! How come the Barbarians have got Space Bombers?

Never again will I under-estimate the value of a Recycling Centre.

	08-02-2001 00:34									#88
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Thanks Swissy!

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Turn 220 to Don.

Disaster heaped upon disaster!

Barbarians with War Walkers and Space Bombers attacking Cities garrisoned by Machine Gunners!

This is almost biblical in scale! Fire, Flood, Famine have all happened so when am I going to be hit by the Barbarian Infectors to complete the set with a good dose of Pestilence as well?

	08-02-2001 23:14									#90
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Are there any BLACK SWARMS OF LOCUSTS yet! Probably not, there's nothing left for them to feed upon!