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The True Demosthenes is offline The True Demosthenes
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Turn 242 ==> Sophix

Environmental catastrophe has occured, and will do so again in another 32 turns should the stench ridden communist nations do not change their ways.

Minor flooding and climate change are widespread.

If the Communists are intent on peace then the Fascists of Wales have yet to see this. As a gesture of goodwill, Wales declined the opportunity to seize Brundisum this turn, and awaits a similiar response from Rome, in addition to her lowering her emissions of noxious fumes.

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Hmm No turn recieved. I'll email ya.

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I recieved a mail delivery failure notification, but have since resent the turn.

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Sophix, I'm still getting mail delivery faiure notification warnings, so I guess that you haven't recieved the turn still.

Do you have another email address that I can send the gamefile to?

Also, and this applies to all, I got an email from somebody who claims to be a long time reader of this thread, and would greatly appreciate a copy of the before and after disaster gamefiles, however, I do not have any pre-disaster gamefiles on my harddrive, as I've deleted them all. I think that you guys probably do have the right gamefile, and so when we've figured out the next turn, and if you're so inclined, could you mail a copy of each to Ursakra@aol.com as I'm sure that they'd greatly appreciate it.

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(Before and After gamefiles sent)

Rome respects Wales' generous offer not to capture Brundisium, but sitting on it's city limits vandalising road and rail connections just isn't conducive to the kind of peace we had in mind...

Wales will find that these 7 tanks have been removed from harm's way! The Roman Empire has always had historical problems dealing with Vandals - not so with Communist Rome!

In further preparation for peace, Rome has finally extinguished Wales' northern enclave with brilliant victories over Lampeter and Llandybie and an easy walkover against Llandarcy!

Rome is glad to say that the Welsh Empire is not longer split into two halves - it's just a little smaller...

This action was deemed necessary in the pursuit of peace when considering Wales' somewhat dubious definitions of peaceful actions. This security hazard could not in this instance be allowed to remain!

Perhaps Wales is mistaken - Rome is not pleading for peace from a position of weakness, as has been proved by the destruction of 24 Welsh units on this turn alone!

Our previous offer remains on the table...

PAX


Comrade MOBIUS

The Hammer of PEACE


[This message has been edited by MOBIUS (edited May 07, 2001).]

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Turn 243 ==> Sophix

The WISE report devastating losses this turn, with our northern annex being completely occupied. However, it is widely believed that due to the constant attacks and occupation of nearby territories, that the citizens of these cities had been polluted by the degenerate and impure disease that is Communism.

The WISE notes that the newly revised territory of the Fatherland should suffer little because of this disease.

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Much has changed since last I visited these lands. Boundaries have shifted. The earth has been tortured by the production of man until scorched blemishes now mar her beauty. New rivers have sprung forth. And Egypt has (ahem) become more svelt....perhaps she has been on a reduction diet?

But that just means that she is leaner and meaner! How shall her considerable might now be utilized? Stay tuned!

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Rome welcomes the change of governments in Egypt - perhaps now finally we can all have peace and avert an environmental catastrophe?

We are eager to cast down the shackles of Communist pollution, but need assurances that any peace is lasting and no advantage will be taken of Rome's weakened transitional state...

Comrade MOBIUS

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The WISE are glad to hear of a change in Egyptian government, have the people of Egypt finally managed to overthrow the shackles of degenerate Communism?

People of Egypt, purge your souls and assimilate into the Fascist nation. Become one with the Fatherland.

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Aaargh! Now the degenerate Roma-Communist leader is subjecting us all to his image.

You are most definitely an impure leader

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Turn 244--> Comrade MOBIUS

So, the Welsh have unleashed that most henious object of torture upon the Egyptian nation: the lawyer? Are we to assume from this act of hostility that you have no interest in being poker buddies with us?

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Rome is still concerned about the lack of progress vis a vis peace...

Although she suffered no attacks this turn, a force has entered the city limits of Colwyn Bay and a Roman Spy was stumbled across...

Rome has already moved much of her army from the front line and is currently working on increasing the happiness her citizens followed by a clear commitment to the reduction of pollution, assuming the other nations allow her.

For the good of the planet, Rome suggests a global peace proposal as outlined below...

PROPOSED PEACE TREATY

All sides must cease hostilities henceforth...

1) As a gesture of goodwill, Rome with relinquish control of Colwyn Bay willingly
2) opposing units outside of cities must be stationed no closer than 6MP’s to foreign cities
3) After a period of 5 turns Rome and Egypt to revert from Communism

Further concessions etc are subject to negotiation, however we must cease-fire now in order to progress this accord...

Rome’s part in the Great War

As an ally of the then ruler of Egypt, Rome was duty bound to help her ally. Rome and Egypt were rapidly falling behind in the technology stakes. At a time of increased tensions between Egypt and Wales, Wales turned to an historically aggressive form of government in the name of Fascism. Afraid of the widening technology gap and the very real possibility of not being able to defend herself in the future, Egypt launched a pre-emptive attack on Wales which caused the other two nations to become involved.

The Leadership of Rome and Egypt regrets that this action had to be taken, but given the aggressive stance of Wales at that time – it was felt that there was no other alternative!

However now that technological parity appears to have been regained, the future of our World is at stake and requires a Herculean effort from all nations working in unison to avoid future environmental catastrophes!

Signed,

Comrade MOBIUS

(P.S. mocking the visage of the workers leader of Rome, is hardly conducive to brokering a peace deal!)

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The WISE are considering the words of Comrade Mobius and will report back on them after deliberation and consultation.

However, to lay blame for this bloody conflict at the doorstep of the Welsh is both wrong and inciteful. Egypt was to attack Wales regardless, hence our patriotic nationalism being transformed into the purity that is Fascism.

This was merely a reaction to Egyptian actions, that being placing numerous hordes of troops outside our cities and repeatedly sending spies into our territory.

Do not expect the Welsh to swallow your propaganda, for it will not happen.

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Whilst being in the midst of deliberating the words of Comrade Mobius on the subject of how to achieve peace in the world, The WISE recieved a shocking report, proving once and for the impurity of all that is Communist.

Rome and Egypt have gone to war!

Finally the pollution that has been vomiting forth from the nations of Communism has seeped into their relationship, and war has broken out. First showings indicate that Rome has occupied at least one Egyptian city, the already isolated Edfu.

Compounding the poor situation for the Communists of Egypt was the Fascist Liberation of Dendera. In a swift operation, battalions from the Welsh Fascist Regiment and Cmyru Tank Corps swept into the town, wiping out not only the degenerate armed forces, but also the corrupt legal and political infrastructure.

The WISe now realised that the words of Comrade Mobius could never be trusted, and knowing now that the prospect of peace with Communist Rome could only lead to deciet and treachery, the city of Colwyn Bay was also liberated, rather than handed back as had been offered.

Both Rome and Egypt are now at war with every other race on the planet, aswell as the planet itself. In times such as this, it is glad to know that the Fascist nation still remains strong and true.

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Turn 244--> Comrade MOBIUS

Shocked and disappointed, Egypt finds that her Communist brother in Rome has forcibly taken one of her cities. More predictably, the Welsh have done the same.

It is clear that Egypt is alone in the world, without friends to turn to.
But the nation that created the pyramids will not let these grim odds weaken
our resolve to defend our homeland from any thugs who come bent on mindless destruction.

Already, the brave but oppressed citizens of Dendura have restored the
freedom and honour that they had enjoyed there until the Barbarian Welsh
came to pillage the city. Working from within, they helped pave the way for
the Egyptian army, who came to their rescue. All Welsh who were captured
have been sent home, hopefully to tell their tale of Egyptian mercy. They
also bring a message that we still wish to halt this war to try and save the
earth from the ravages of pollution.

Should our offer be scorned, then Egypt will fight on. Let all nations know
that while they might gang up on Egypt, we will not go quietly. We will
fight you on the tundra, we will fight you in the swamps...we have only just
begun to fight!!

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Rome was merely saving the isolated city of Edfu from the evil Fascists - the attack on Colwyn Bay and Dendera merely prove to reinforce the fact that the Roman policy was the right one at the time!

Should any other Egyptian cities be attacked, Rome will have no choice but to protect further Egyptian cities from the loathesome Nazis!

For the final time - World polution has to be curbed or we will all suffer! If Rome cannot secure a peaceful solution - she will have no alternative but to turn to the conquest of the Fascist nations...

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The loss of Colwyn Bay was keenly felt by the Politburo, but this was somewhat tempered by the execution of a Welsh Spy detected by a roving Roman counterspy!

Espionage does not further the cause of peace!


Comrade MOBIUS

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Turn 246 ==> Sophix / Rick

THe Fascist nation has been calling for an end to pollution for some time now, but the Communists have ignored our pleas.

Only now that you are suffering the harvest of the foulness that you have sown, with the destruction of land and the rioting of your unhappy people, do you choose to take up our cause.

This is not for the good of the planet, but for your own selfish reasons.

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The invaders of Bubastis have been driven from the city by the valiant Egyptian Army, aided by the Egyptian Air Force. Citizens of the city told of cruelty and torture at the hands of the Australians.

But Egypt has had enough of this defensive situation. As new Egyptian divisions are now mobilized, the Welsh and Australians will soon know what it feels like to be on the defensive! Onward!!

General Rick

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After yet another callous attack by the Welsh/Australian Fascist Alliance on a weak but apparently by no means defenceless Egypt, Roman forces have been mobilised once more!

Although Roman forces have not launched any offensives for several years, after a catalogue of trespass, espionage, vandalism and attempted conquest during these years that Rome has been suing for peace - the workers wanted action!

Commencement of hostilities against Australia...

The massed tank armies of Rome's southern armoured group scored an impressive victory by overrunning Indooroophilly, fabled city of Galileo's Telescope - resistance was lighter than expected and people's army casualties were relatively light!

Rome now stands poised to cut the Australian Empire in two, unless Australia can recover from what seems to have been a complete surprise to Steve Waugh and his minions!

Liberation of the Egyptian city of Lisht...

Given Wales' self serving agenda, including capturing a city that would have voluntarily been ceded to her if she had seen fit to agree to Roman peace entreaties, and her continuing persecution of the Egyptian peoples - there was no option but to recommence operations!

After taking Edfu under protective custody from the Egyptians earlier, the city was used as a springboard for an air and land attack against Welsh military targets. Resistance was strong - but the resolve and belief of the Romans was stronger!

You wanted War instead of Peace - now you have it!

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However, to lay blame for this bloody conflict at the doorstep of the Welsh is both wrong and inciteful. Egypt was to attack Wales regardless, hence our patriotic nationalism being transformed into the purity that is Fascism.

This was merely a reaction to Egyptian actions, that being placing numerous hordes of troops outside our cities and repeatedly sending spies into our territory.


No blame was attached in this manner - it is true that both Egypt and Wales were playing a cat and mouse game...

However, Wales appeared more than happy to play it - what was to stop an advanced Wales from attacking when it became invincible due to winning the technology race!!? Especially when it converted to a fascist government!

As it was Egypt and Rome only barely managed to claw their way back when the advances of Explosives and Mass Production were 'acquired' through daring lightening raids! Without the capture of these advances, we would have been lost, the timing of our attacks was touch and go - a few turns more and Wales would already have had the Fascists that it so successfully used against the Egyptian Musketeers!

It really was that close! Now however, we appear to have gained a technological parity!

We do not blame Wales for beginning the War - but whenever there is inequality, there are winners and losers and there was rapidly coming to a point where Rome and Egypt would have had no choice in the matter!

Comrade MOBIUS

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Now where have I seen and heard this before...... facists used against more or less defendless musketeers.

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As it was Egypt and Rome only barely managed to claw their way back when the advances of Explosives and Mass Production were 'acquired' through daring lightening raids!



As they resulted in the aquisition of new knowledge, perhaps they should be referred to as "enlightening" raids?

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Turn 247 ==> Rick / Sophix

The WISE had anticipated an attack on Lisht, however, the outcome was not. We believe that the same result will not happen in Tresaith.....

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Sorry I've been a little slow of late, I've been snowed under at work. I'm now in the process of moving house, and I will be offline until probably the end of next week.

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Egyptian cartographers complain of overwork, as they prepare to once again change the map, with Bubastis to Australian rule. But they are cheered by offcial word that they should go home and enjoy the weekend. Apparantly, Egyptian forces have formulated a response that will reclaim the city, making any changes to the map unnecessary!

Meanwhile the Australian army should be wary, as there was an ancient curse implanted in the walls of Bubastis to be inflicted upon any murderous thugs who came to harm the city. Do not forget, Egypt is an ancient civilization with secrets that are thousands of years old! Grave tidings await thee!

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Roman Intelligence thanks the WISE for it's forewarning of troop concentrations in Tresaith and attacked Llandow instead!

As for Welsh complaints about Rome not reducing her pollution - it was decided that a start would be made by dismantling Llandow's Oil Refinery!

Rome condemns the cowardly destruction of a strategic bridge into Australian territory, greatly delaying the liberation of Australian cities...

Comrade MOBIUS

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House moving nightmare. Am presently without abode, with all possessions in a lock up.

Hope to be in a new home by this Friday coming, so expect me back online by the weekend.

Many apologies.

Demosthenes the Homeless.

Got any change guv'nor?!

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Huh, well if you could post a message, why can't you play the turn!!?

Get your priorities right, man!



Thanks for keeping us in the picture - hope it all goes well...

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Turn 248 ==> Sophix / Rick

After a brief (ahem) absence, Fuhrer Demosthenes returns to lead the Fatherland to victory over the insipid and degenerate Communists.

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Again I apologise for my absence, but now at last I have a home and I am fully moved in and ready to go again.

Mobius, my computer has been in storage for the past three weeks whilst I've been squatting in a house with some friends, and so I could only inform you through the virtues of EASYeverything.com, my thanks to the boys in orange.

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Hey Demos,

Glad to hear your move worked out, even if it took longer than you anticipated. Hope you enjoy the new place!

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