15-09-2002 01:32									#61
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Why, thank you everyone.

And Paiktis, can you remember what it was you said about England that pissed everyone off? Frankly, it must have been something pretty bad, because we English don't get pissed off too easily when it comes to jibes about our country.

	15-09-2002 01:32									#62
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	15-09-2002 01:34									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson Why, thank you everyone. And Paiktis, can you remember what it was you said about England that pissed everyone off? Frankly, it must have been something pretty bad, because we English don't get pissed off too easily when it comes to jibes about our country.

I just said that Greece is better than England. That was enough apparently.

	15-09-2002 01:34									#64
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Don't ever remove that Carmina Burana link. That song is genius

	15-09-2002 01:35									#65
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Isn't it?

It takes over your mind!

	15-09-2002 01:36									#66
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I just said that Greece is better than England. That was enough apparently.

How odd. Usually it takes some comment about our theft of the Elgin Marbles for trouble to start.

	15-09-2002 01:38									#67
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Apparently not.

	15-09-2002 01:42									#68
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I'm going to assume it was an isolated incident.

	15-09-2002 01:44									#69
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It would be a comforting thought.

	15-09-2002 01:47									#70
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I should imagine that's all it will be, knowing my luck.

	15-09-2002 01:51									#71
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Refering to the trolling or to the offended?

	15-09-2002 01:54									#72
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The trolling. I think. This exchange has been so devoid of emotion that my brain has practically shut down. I don't think I'm actually in control of what I type any more.

	15-09-2002 02:00									#73
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It is called excessive use of innouendos coupled with a slight cover of irony. Pretty widely used in my parts of the woods. I apologize for the confusion.

	15-09-2002 02:17									#74
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The problem many "Eurotrash" have with Americans is that we suspect there's a big hidden propaganda machine that tells you or brainwashes you into always saying something like:

We are great!

What you are not saying is that "we are not so great". In not so many words that is...

Also the Euros get a little sick of hearing this all the time and how PROUD you always seem to be.

It is also difficult for us to understand that a country like the USA with so many christians.... are so PROUD. Where are the fruits of the Spirit - like humility? Or are you immature christians? That would explain it...

Now, if this description fits many GREAT Americans... That would be all of you. right??... Who would be the dufuses? You?

Would it be ok to call you GREAT dufuses then? Just curious...

	15-09-2002 02:26									#75
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Why do you have a problem with other people feeling good about themselves?

	15-09-2002 02:36									#76
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Oh, is that what it is? I guess Europeans don't feel good about themselves.

	15-09-2002 02:48									#77
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Why do you have a problem with other people feeling good about themselves?

Misery loves company.

	15-09-2002 03:40									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Lars-E Oh, is that what it is? I guess Europeans don't feel good about themselves.

No, I asked why you object to the Yanks feeling good about themselves. I doubt all Euros feel that way.

	15-09-2002 03:52									#79
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I didn't even read this thread. I am just awed at the fact that a thread titled, "Why are Non-Americans such Gay *****?" could NOT be shut down, even after 77 posts. And the people at CivFanatics call you sheep who mod everything????

	15-09-2002 03:57									#80
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Live and learn, so is said.
Cross the line too far though and MtG, Ming, or Ming's ferret brother Rah will nail your hide to the wall.

	15-09-2002 04:00									#81
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Much less mod activity here than at CFC

	15-09-2002 04:07									#82
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Really Immortal? I never knew that, it seems to be almost nonexistent. The worst is at GameFAQs.com. If you go there and make a thread titled "I am C Jay C's Son" (NOTE: C Jay C created the site) you will be booted. IF you mention pirated games, you get suspended. Mention drugs, suspended. That place is a police state.

Still, I think the integrity of this thread is nonexistent. IT has a good point, but calling them all gay ***** makes you sound like an idiot

	15-09-2002 04:10									#83
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It's just that here they're free to prove that they are in fact, idiots.

	15-09-2002 04:15									#84
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I don't like our current administration. I don't agree with laissez-faire economics because sometimes the market needs to be controlled. I don't agree with rampant industrialization that pollutes the planets air and when floods, droughts, etc happen, can't figure out why the intensity of the natural disasters is happening--->duh, more pollutants in the air!

I don't agree with individuals who can buy 10 or more $500,000+ cars and other crap when our public education system seems to be cannibalizing itself just to keep itself standing.

Neither can I agree with some CEO's who make millions of dollars, make some back-door deals, get caught, and spend <5 years in a country-club prison when whole communities put together make less than what these guys are making......and I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

Now, I love this country and I wouldn't trade it for any other one (except maybe England or Japan for the cute babes! ) but sometimes the people we put into office to lead us seem to have their head up their a**.

	15-09-2002 05:03									#85
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england has hot babes
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	15-09-2002 05:43									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Odin I think the thread starter has listened to to much rightist propaganda.

I'm actually more libertarian, although not apparently to the extreme of David Floyd.

Also the thread isn't about politics. It's about Europeans who are far too interested in the United States. It's like they have an Amerophilia fetish.

And the title is strictly to draw people in. Don't take it so seriously. It worked.

	15-09-2002 22:11									#87
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The question is why are we bashing each other so much? Yes, the Euros like to tell us how we should run our country so much, and it can be annoying, but I highly respect them and they're no worse then Americans.

	15-09-2002 22:33									#88
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http://www.ceip.org/files/Publicati...olicyReview.asp

The article is verbose and repetative, but spot on regarding the major difference in international outlook.

	16-09-2002 01:21									#89
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That article is a very good summary of the current situation in Europe and America.

It is also easy to see that Europeans and Americans are partially blinded to the merits of the other's way of thinking by the success of their own methods in their primary goals in the last half-century - military might and an umcompromising attitude were a sucess for the US in defeating communism and the USSR whilst negociation and the pooling of sovereignty have been successful in building europe's amazing peace.

However the article only focuses on the medium term (the next 50 years or so) and America will not stay powerful forever.

Military power comes from economics power - although you can be an economic power but not a military one it is almost impossible to be a military power without an economy to back it up.

The US's share of global output has been falling for half a century - that means that eventually power will shift (I do not mean that the US will lose power itself, just it's current monopoly on it) and then the US will need either a militarily strong europe as it's ally or a strong system of international law in order to protect itself from erosion of it's global influence.

Ultimately this could mean a form of 'Transatlantic Union' of the entire west to counter the global power of China & India in the 22nd century.

Last edited by el freako on 16-09-2002 at 01:29

	16-09-2002 02:53									#90
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Another USA vs the world thread? Why oh why? Couldn't ming have closed it down before it got serious?

Anyway, I believe that the first posts in there were simply jewels of stupidity. Nothing like the one cent troll some of us are doing: these people feel from the bottom of their hearts that a big injustice is being made to their "GREAT" country. My heart is bleeding at the sight and I sometimes feel that we're too cruel on them. Someday I'm afraid they may not withstand our continuous criticism and vote to have their webspace censored, like it is in China now. It would be a pity, wouldn't it?