19-09-2002 23:20									#61
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Could you make it so the extra chat stuf is only in the forums and not the threads, it slows it down to much even with a fast conection.

	19-09-2002 23:40									#62
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Weird. I chatted a bit, exited, ran through a couple Poly forums, then was hitting the back button. Very surprised I dropped back into Chat - in real time - and moreso to see that it was in a much bigger typeface. Strange. Then I was suddenly dumped to the "please register" page. Strange.

I guess there's a bug or two.

	19-09-2002 23:54									#63
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Is this silly chat the thing that has slowed the forums? Get rid of it.

	20-09-2002 00:54									#64
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Yay! All the bugs of chat, but in the forums now.

I've noticed a slow down as well.


The chat also bumps threads an extra page when the page limit is reached so when you click on the last page of a certain thread, you see no responses but the unrelated chat.

	20-09-2002 01:40									#65
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quote: The chat also bumps threads an extra page when the page limit is reached....

not exactly but it has been fixed

as any developer will tell you, bugs happen

	20-09-2002 01:42									#66
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How much is this affecting load times today? Or is that have more to do with the MOO3 contest and extra people on ACS?

I just see it being abused too much without a big gain in having the chat rooms last words posted on the top of the site. But it has led to more people in the chat room and if Markos thinks that will help income., good luck.

	20-09-2002 01:50									#67
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if you notice the "users online" numbers on the front forums page todat we have constantly 70-100 more people than usually

Last edited by MarkG on 20-09-2002 at 01:59

	20-09-2002 02:47									#68
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Opera 6.04: an empty box...
IE 6: can read the conversation but can't send replies...

Any chance we'll get an IRC chat channel again?

	20-09-2002 03:13									#69
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Lol, the insightful comment at the top of this page is:

quote: [19/09|18:10] i

But I'm willing to give this thing a try.

	20-09-2002 03:27									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij Opera 6.04: an empty box...

check to see if opera has any javascript options...

quote: IE 6: can read the conversation but can't send replies...

again see if you have anything related to javascript disabled

ie5.5 works fine...

quote: Any chance we'll get an IRC chat channel again?

the irc channel is NOT replaced (yet)

	20-09-2002 04:38									#71
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chat archive
http://apolyton.net/forums/shoutbox.php?page_shout=chat

	20-09-2002 15:38									#72
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Good feature.

Drop in. Post something vaguely salacious. Watch attendance level soar.

	20-09-2002 17:23									#73
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bug causing you to loose some of the messages, is now squashed

	20-09-2002 17:39									#74
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Login to site, notice sluggishness. Read thread where Mark denies new chat is culprit. Not surprised.

	20-09-2002 20:03									#75
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In the chat archive why are there pages -1, -2, -3?

	20-09-2002 21:01									#76
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG check to see if opera has any javascript options...

Read my last post Markos. Just wonder how it should me give java error messages if Opera does not have java. (Shure there is also a version witout java IIRC.)

-Martin

	20-09-2002 21:26									#77
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martin

1) java != javascript
2) there have been lots of code changes since your last post

i have the handy javascript console of mozilla open and i get no errors from the chat.
please re-check and let me now

	20-09-2002 21:41									#78
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hi ,

Mark , thanks man

is nice to see that yesterday you improved it also

what about "private" , one on one rooms ?

have a nice day

	20-09-2002 22:03									#79
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG 1) java != javascript

You are right. To be precise I got JavaScript error messages.

quote: Originally posted by MarkG 2) there have been lots of code changes since your last post i have the handy javascript console of mozilla open and i get no errors from the chat. please re-check and let me now

Rechecked and the same problem is there, java is enabled, java script is enabled and java script error messages are enabled and I use the option pretend as Opera. Still the same picture.

-Martin

	20-09-2002 22:53									#80
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martin i'll look into


quick list of features

- complete user integration with Apolyton user accounts database
- no issue with user names with apostrophes
- vbcode and smilies
- automated archive
- admins, moderators, "celebrities" and... lurkers indentification
- ban, unban and auto-unban from chat features
- /pm command opens pm window

	21-09-2002 00:46									#81
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It seems you did something, but still a blank screen, but now I get two errors, with javascript in Opera 6.04:

Error:
name: TypeError
message: Value on left hand side of '.' is not convertible to Object: window.parent.frames["chat"]


Syntax error while loading (line 0)

-^

But another question will it be compartible with Netscape 4.78. So far I have just an empty page without the chat window in Netscape 4.78.

And again another question, if you still plan to allow to read the chat for non logged in members or for guest then it would be helpful if there would be a quick log in form on the chat page, two.

By the way the quick regristration form screw up the whole page on Netscape 4.78.

-Martin

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	21-09-2002 02:08									#82
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Hmm, currently the chat display doesn't say who's in the room, although the most recently posted IM is still showing up. ('Course, avatars and pictures aren't displaying either, so no telling if the chat is really screwed up or if the server is hiccupping.)

	21-09-2002 02:13									#83
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loin,

the problem is that Settler is very heavily loaded right now. Markos had to disable avatars in order to ease the load. I hope we're back to normal tomorrow.

	21-09-2002 05:42									#84
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Ah, gotcha. I'd noticed that there were about forty people in chat when I popped in, and usually there are at most four people.

	21-09-2002 20:31									#85
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by MarkG
check to see if opera has any javascript options...
It has. It also gave the following error message:

Error:
name: TypeError
message: Value on left hand side of '.' is not convertible to Object:

	21-09-2002 23:05									#86
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yes, there is still a bug that comes up some times and is related to the rooms

i hope to have it fixed tomorrow...

	22-09-2002 01:57									#87
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OK finally I found me on the user list of the chat room, afterwards I enabled cookies in my profile. Would it be at least possible to set in the profile cookies just for the chat room if it is impossible to keep me logged in in the chat room without cookies.

Another problem is with non standart letters like German umlaute (Ü,Ö,Ä,ü,ö,ä). I have one in my name. My name is displayed correctly on the user list of the chat but if I click on that it inserts this one: Martin GÃŒhmann

-Martin

	22-09-2002 02:05									#88
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question: why can't you use quotation marks in the chat?

	22-09-2002 02:07									#89
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again, the new chats appears to render the forums nearly unusable.....

	22-09-2002 02:08									#90
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hi ,

Mark , can we please have the "refresh button" back , ...?

have a nice day