16-11-2002 06:46									#421
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

yeah i'm ****ed. i should have concentrated on organgutang...and finbar you moron, well...what can i say. Move your partisans before ending your turn.

	16-11-2002 07:19									#422
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Ah I see - a new strat emerges - if deity stops makeo's ss - blame finbar

	16-11-2002 07:54									#424
	Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by Makeo yeah i'm ****ed. i should have concentrated on organgutang...and finbar you moron, well...what can i say. Move your partisans before ending your turn.

organgutang = something on Makeo's mind

and finbar you moron = you didn't follow orders but you better from now on

It's not over yet though. Are we playing on if I down Makeo's SS? I think the game will go forever if so... but I don't mind. I've got most of the planet

	16-11-2002 08:00									#425
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

finbar could give his cities to the player of his choice, presumably makeo since deity attacked him, and you 2 could slug it out.

Being the spare pr*ck at a wedding isn't much fun.


And I'd like to see a screenshot of deity's rep please.

	16-11-2002 08:02									#426
	Full PM-box? Change here!

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Ah I see - a new strat emerges - if deity stops makeo's ss - blame finbar

Don't worry, I'll sheet the blame back to you

The amazing thing I learned here was that after Horsies invasion my whole precious psychology changed. After I lost so many improvements, even after getting my cities back, I found that I more easily threw caution to the wind and played more risky sand courageously. I didn't worry about losing pop, losing units or selling more improvements. I just put everything into a war machine - rush buying on a mega basis - and just going for it.
I wasn't going to declare war on finbar, with whom I HAD a peace Treaty, but was gouing to build my own cities nearby. But when I saw him actively pillaging road and rail of his that I needed I changed my mind. I haven't looked at the Foreign Advisor to check out my spotlessness lately... But I'm still in anarchy after the oedo year came round in 1844. So what gives with the oedo years during spaceflight turns?

	16-11-2002 08:07									#427
	AD1844 Support Apolyton

DEITIAN press release...

Attachment: spotless1844.jpg
This has been downloaded 27 time(s).

	16-11-2002 08:11									#428
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse finbar could give his cities to the player of his choice, presumably makeo since deity attacked him, and you 2 could slug it out. Being the spare pr*ck at a wedding isn't much fun. ...

I think you are seriously under-estimating finbar's ability to do damage

Better to be at the Wedding than in the graveyard

---

PS That is an absurd idea btw Horsie. MP = MP

	16-11-2002 08:33									#429
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Not absurd at all. You don't play with us very often. Its something we've done before.

finbar can't win - why should he have to sit through your interminable turns?

	16-11-2002 09:08									#430
	Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by Makeo yeah i'm ****ed. i should have concentrated on organgutang...and finbar you moron, well...what can i say. Move your partisans before ending your turn.

The fact is, I celebrated about 29 birthdays during the length of Deity's turn and senility had set in. I gather you turned 56 during that turn too, Makeo. Many happies!

	16-11-2002 09:15									#431
	Tired of ads?

quote: Originally posted by deity Don't worry, I'll sheet the blame back to you The amazing thing I learned here was that after Horsies invasion my whole precious psychology changed. After I lost so many improvements, even after getting my cities back, I found that I more easily threw caution to the wind and played more risky sand courageously. I didn't worry about losing pop, losing units or selling more improvements. I just put everything into a war machine - rush buying on a mega basis - and just going for it. I wasn't going to declare war on finbar, with whom I HAD a peace Treaty, but was gouing to build my own cities nearby. But when I saw him actively pillaging road and rail of his that I needed I changed my mind. I haven't looked at the Foreign Advisor to check out my spotlessness lately... But I'm still in anarchy after the oedo year came round in 1844. So what gives with the oedo years during spaceflight turns?

Walter Mitty anyone?

Maybe deity's turns take so long because he diarises while he plays.

"Dear diary, today I showed incredible courage........"

	16-11-2002 09:27									#432
	Inflate your Upload Space

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Not absurd at all. You don't play with us very often. Its something we've done before. finbar can't win - why should he have to sit through your interminable turns?

Instead of interferring with your 'Horse' rules paradigm why don't you let the players in the game speak for themselves?

After all, you are now irrelevant Horsie

finbar can't win? You've been saying that about me for some time now and that I should have conceded ages ago... I think your credibility in assessing civ strategically has been shown for what it is

	16-11-2002 09:30									#433
	Suffering from ads?

quote: Originally posted by finbar The fact is, I celebrated about 29 birthdays during the length of Deity's turn and senility had set in. I gather you turned 56 during that turn too, Makeo. Many happies!

Oh, I get it! It's deity's fault that he's winning

---

It's lovely to see the three conspirators accusing each other as their schemes become unstuck...

	16-11-2002 09:32									#434
	Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by deity But when I saw him actively pillaging road and rail of his that I needed I changed my mind.

The road/rail you saw being pillaged was between two of my cities. One on the coast, one inland, about 5 squares apart. How were you going to use the road/rail? Build between the cities? An inland city? When you needed a coastal city to build your transport? I had partisans in place blocking your access to the only available coastal land anyway. It was evident what you were going to do - use my civ as a jumping-off point to get to Makeo - I just took the preventative measures in the wrong order, unfortunately.

	16-11-2002 09:37									#435
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Walter Mitty anyone? Maybe deity's turns take so long because he diarises while he plays. "Dear diary, today I showed incredible courage........"

At least I don't waste time DURING my turn in re-naming captured cities...

And my important game turns are no slower than yours.

Plus, I thought you might be interested in my planning and thougt processes. Just say if you're not.......

"Dear Diary,
Today I fired another dart into that target swinging from the belltower... it mutterred something quite irrelevant... must get around to burying it soon. The stench is appalling. AH* Year 1"

* After Horsie

	16-11-2002 09:38									#436
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by deity Oh, I get it! It's deity's fault that he's winning

In fact, I'm billing you for the last two or three sessions - 9 hours at $500 per hour for therapy for salving a bruised ego.

	16-11-2002 09:40									#437
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

"Dear diary,

My genius, sadly unrecognised by other players, who are all jealous of me, will once again be on display for all to see in this turn when I......."

	16-11-2002 09:45									#438
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote: Originally posted by finbar The road/rail you saw being pillaged was between two of my cities. One on the coast, one inland, about 5 squares apart. How were you going to use the road/rail? Build between the cities? An inland city? When you needed a coastal city to build your transport? I had partisans in place blocking your access to the only available coastal land anyway. It was evident what you were going to do - use my civ as a jumping-off point to get to Makeo - I just took the preventative measures in the wrong order, unfortunately.

If that partisan wasn't there pillaging roads I was going to storm through with a connected rail to the coastline between your cities... You knew what you were doing

I was NOT going to attack you unless I had no other choice, which you gave me. Any attempt by me to build cities or rail in two movement terrain and Makeo would have just killed them.

Instead of taking preventative measures you could have done that deal with me and taken out Makeo's cap yourself.

	16-11-2002 09:49									#439
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse "Dear diary, My genius, sadly unrecognised by other players, who are all jealous of me, will once again be on display for all to see in this turn when I......."

Why don't you post any specific strategy points like I do?

I'd be interested to see them

I owe much of my skill in playing to Makeo anyway. I learnt heaps off him. I've learnt bugger all of you!

	16-11-2002 09:51									#440
	Full PM-box? Change here!

I would have thought you'd have now learned not to leave your main cities undefended when the satellite is up

	16-11-2002 09:55									#441
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

LMAO @ Horsie!!

Well, yes, I sort of knew that

	16-11-2002 10:00									#442
	Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by deity Plus, I thought you might be interested in my planning and thougt processes. Just say if you're not.......

Very thoughtful of you

But what I'm more interested is how you managed to stay in democracy with huge pillaged cities, no happy wonders and units all over the place.

Some investigation of the saves might be in order in due course

	16-11-2002 10:07									#443
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by deity If that partisan wasn't there pillaging roads I was going to storm through with a connected rail to the coastline between your cities... You knew what you were doing

You missed my point that (a) there's very little coastline available to be built on; and (b) you would've had to attack to get access to it anyway.

quote: Instead of taking preventative measures you could have done that deal with me and taken out Makeo's cap yourself.

That wouldn't have won me the game.

	16-11-2002 10:10									#444
	Full PM-box? Change here!

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I would have thought you'd have now learned not to leave your main cities undefended when the satellite is up

Without resurrecting the old debate, although my decision was flawed at the time in 1836 it was much worse as a result of the double civ attack...

	16-11-2002 10:10									#445
	Inflate your Upload Space

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse But what I'm more interested is how you managed to stay in democracy with huge pillaged cities, no happy wonders and units all over the place.

That one intrigues me too.

Gee, we're zapping towards the 500 post mark. Makeo will have the - rare, I'm sure - privelege of starting a Part 2 of a thread.

	16-11-2002 10:11									#446
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by deity Without resurrecting the old debate, although my decision was flawed at the time in 1836 it was much worse as a result of the double civ attack...

Here we go ...

"I offered up a brick with which to clobber me, I turned my back and closed my eyes, and two people clobbered me!"

	16-11-2002 10:19									#447
	Full PM-box? Change here!

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Very thoughtful of you But what I'm more interested is how you managed to stay in democracy with huge pillaged cities, no happy wonders and units all over the place. Some investigation of the saves might be in order in due course

OK, check them out. But this is sore loser territory now

Very sad to start casting aspersions now.

With big cities it's very easy to have troops away and maintain happiness. I usually play without Wonders to strengthen my ability to fine tune happiness whilst waging a war and still achieving a high GNP.

BTW Even if you look at the saves, how is it possible to alter this situation? I'm not even the host!

Be very careful about crossing this line Horsie.

How about a bit of Aussie sportsmanship and trust here?

	16-11-2002 10:24									#448
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

I'm looking at your save now

	16-11-2002 10:29									#449
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: Originally posted by finbar That one intrigues me too. Gee, we're zapping towards the 500 post mark. Makeo will have the - rare, I'm sure - privelege of starting a Part 2 of a thread.

entitled..

Aztec SS crashes

	16-11-2002 10:34									#450
	Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by finbar You missed my point that (a) there's very little coastline available to be built on; and (b) you would've had to attack to get access to it anyway. That wouldn't have won me the game.

nor has this!

a) you have not studied the map carefully enough finbar...

b) I would only have attacked if you were in the way - this is the end game, three turns to D Day...

That may not have won you the game but at least your civ would still be in tact and still in the running - as it is you are stuffed! Unless you wish to form a "co-operative relationship"