22-09-2002 02:51									#1
	Saves, Reports and Times Get a bigger avatar today!

Do not post replies

The next set of turns will be a turnchat taken by apoc on Friday I don;t know what time

PST 1100
PDT 1200
MST 1200
MDT 1300
CST 1300
CDT 1400
EST 1400
EDT 1500
ARO 1600
GMT 1900
BST 2000
MWIA 0700

What time is that where I live

How to access the irc chat

Link to discussion thread

Ministers orders for the next turns.

Here are some fine maps of our empire updated regularily curtesy of aro (sp).

Report: 580 AD - 640 AD

The chat was taken by apoc and this report is by him too.

580 AD
Only one major thing here. The Holeinwall problem was fixed just just rushed a settler and then starting a harbor. This seems to work for everyone.

590 AD
This is when the first major trade took place. We were able to aquire Banking then trade it for Gunpowder fairly cheaply - it cost quite a bit less than expected. We found two Saltpeter resources inside our border. One by New York and the other by my favorite city - GeoFront. France also has two Saltpeter resources very close to the border.

600 AD
San Cortes was founded on the incense. I hope everyone likes the name. Cortes really isn't a Saint, but he will seem like one if he is able to flip a couple Aztec cities and allow us to make some more good incense deals.

610 AD
Holeinwall wasconnected to the Romans. This basically allows it to grow more. Corruption still won't allow it to be that productive though.

620 AD
This was a great decade. We got Astronomy for cheap - Banking, WM, 93L. The Aztecs actually seem a little afraid of us right now. They may just be waiting to be connected to Iron so they can build some Pikemen in the US cities. Saltpeter was connected to New York too. I sent some workers to start a road to the GeoFront SP.

630 AD
A temple was rushed in San Cortes to start the road to culture flipping. The Harbor in AGC was also rushed to connect Uber with the rest of our territory.

640 AD
Not much done. San Cortes grew its borders out by means of the Aztec cities. I am confident they will be flipped.

Attachment: banana of the egyptians, 640 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 20 time(s).

Last edited by OPD on 16-10-2002 at 17:10

	23-09-2002 03:36									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Report (Originally posted by MWIA)
170 AD-260 AD Summary (preceding the boring full report)

Enemy units lost

Archers:7
Spearmen:2

Enemy units captured
Catapults: 1 (Gordium)
Workers (SLAVES, dammit!): 3 Persian (3 Gordium)

Friendly unit losses
Swordmen: 1

Cities gained
City between Timeline and Rheims (settler from Port Rouge - just edging out France!) - to be renamed
Gordium (Persian - we CONQUERED it. )

Settler ready to found city at "New Munich", from Banana HQ

We build Sun Tzu's in Ubergorsk with Ramses.

Trades made
Wines to France: 230 AD for 19L and WM
Chivalry from Rome: 230 AD 6LPT, 130L and one worker

Persia offering for peace

Theology or Engineering + 24L (all their gold) +7LPT OR
Sardis + 24L + 7LPT OR
Sidon + 6L + 3LPT.

170 AD

SMC
Pikeman W of Tyre moves to hills to SE
Horseman(4/4) in uber n,n,ne,e
Pikeman s,se of napolitan nw,n,fortify
Sword in Gaia put on goto to tyre
Spear in Del Monte se,s,se(on way to timeline)
Spear in Timeline goto where settler in Port Rouge will go. when he gets there fortify and wait
Sword in Nap can't be rushed - needs 32L, we have 31L

Tyre changes to Settler
A1
A2
A3
A4
A6
BHQ to settler, rush for 72g

Worker near Chiquita has orders CANCELLED

Cherbourg left as it is

END
YESSS - Romans pass Cherbourg by

Poly builds Library, change to settler
BHQ builds settler, change to Pike
AGC builds Granary, changes to worker
Termina builds WC, Uber builds Sword

190 AD

CP
A2
A6
Cherbourg changes to entertainer, keeps building SP
Temple in Geo can be rushed for 48L - do it?
make entertainer into taxman in tyre

PW completed

SMC
Spearman between Delmonte and Gaia se,s,sw
all swords near tyre into tyre, since the spear moved out of range, workers on mountain start roading
gl into uber, sword in uber to tyre
fortify swords that are in tyre
sword by itelf s,sw tyre ne
elite horse 2/5 west
spear between gaia and delmonte goto timeline
galley near uber Island sw,s - unload wc on wheat - galley s
fortify wc in termina
Settler in BHQ goto Loveshack
skip horse turn in tyre
rush sword in napolitan this turn - 24L
Ramses changes into Sun Tzu and settles down to teach Military tactics in Ubergorsk.

END

Babs have stack s of Cherbourg, French settler stack reaches Rheims, Amers want to talk
Amers want ROP and Alliance against the Aztecs who are killing them (I guess that confirms who took Philadelphia)
I refuse.
Greek settler stack into Delphi, Roman stack at Cherbourg keeps going N
Gaia builds Horse
OH GLOOOOOOORY! Sun Tzu's in Uber
Uber changed to Catapult
Geo builds temple
Nap builds Sword, Cher builds Sp, Cher starves to 1.

210 AD

A2
Cher Changes to Settler

PW
chiquita worker builds mine

SMC
elite 5/5 sword in tyr attacks persians - lose 2HP but WIN
3/3 sword in tyre attacks arher - lose 1HP but WIN - no upgrade
4/4 horse in tyreattack 2/3 spear- lose 1HP but WIN - upgrade to Elite
move elite pike to cover elite horse
2/5 horse to uber for recovery
All units near Tyre into Tyre
pike and sword from napolitans,se
All units in Tyre fortify
Galley sw,s,s
wc on uber se,se - ALL grass
Sp in Cher fortifies
Sp in Gaia fortifies
Horse in Gaia to Tyre
fortify galley

End turn
Persia offers a peace if we give them a worker!They will give a tech and that's it - I throw sand in the eyes of their representative
Tyre starves. Macross' radius increases, Roman stack heading home (phew!)

230 AD

CP PW done

SMC
reg sword 3/3 attacks archer - 2HP lost but VICTORY
4/5 elite horse attacks archer - loses 3HP and disengages
attack the archer with 4/4 sword w of tyre, 1 HP lost but VICTORY
All healthy sword and 1 pike from tyre ----e,e - stack is 3 vets, 3 elites, 1 Pike
workers w of tyre e,e,e(under army)
2/3 sword into tyre and move 1/5 vet horse under 3/4 sword
healthy horse fron tyre to army
move pike and sword se of napolitan s
wc on uber s,s -cows and lotsa shielded grass.
Horse in Uber forts
elite pikeman e,se of tyre moves south
Sp between Rheims and Timeline fortifies (in place for the city)
galley sw of poly ne

FAM
Wines sold to France for 19L + WM
Buy Chivalry from Rome from 6 LPT, 130L and a worker

END
Poly builds Settler, Tass builds Pike, AGC builds Worker

250 AD
A1
A2
A3
A4
change tass to knight

Settler builds city betweem Timeline and Rheims, Building Temple for now
Settler at New Munich stops (no harm in doing so)
PW done
Worker in AGC to cows

SMC
army goes e,then s to 1 north of gordium
fortify pike/sword between nap and geo
1 Elite Sword, 1 Pike from Tyre E, E
move pikeman by himslef se
wc on uber e,s
galley near poly fortify
Galley moves to S of hut, waits
pike intass to gaia
Settler in Poly forts

END
English have settler stack next to Persians E of Tyre
Jerusalem builds Temple, change to worker

260 AD - LAST TURN OF 3rd ADMINISTRATION

CP - completed
PW - all done

SMC
elite sword n of gordium attacks - GAH! Catapult! We lose, their reg Sp loses 1 HP
attack with next elite - no HP loss, we take Gordium, 3 workers and 1L and a Catapult
4 resisters!
Elite kills archer in stack, no HP loss
attack archer e,ne of tyre with 3/3 sword - VICTORY no HP loss
upgrade horse 5/5 to knight - 80L!
the 3/3 swords in tyre e,e
pike w of gordium into gordium
Pike N of Gordium fortifies
workeres in gordium sw,s
attack the archer near neo/geo with 4/4 sword -2HP loss but VICTORY
wc goes sw,nw
Workers N of Gordium build road

And that's all she wrote. So long, palace. Goodbye, Presidential goons. Au revoir, position of power. Bye bye, official drinks cabinet. I may miss you the most.

Attachment: demo.sav
This has been downloaded 15 time(s).

	26-09-2002 05:57									#3
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Report beging 260 ad

A really eventful chat. Although unfortunately my attempt to log it was a disapointing failure. I think some one else may have posted a log of the earlier stuff somewhere but I think the undernet stuff may be lost. Which is a shame as that was the most interesting.

A general report for now and a full one tommorrow.

A few presidential slip ups but everything worked out ok (we were lucky).

Units lost 2 elite swords, 2 vet swords and 1 reg sword.

We renegotiated peace with a lot of civs and made some money. Russia is now paying us 7lpt.

We built new mew munich and a new city on uber isle.
Alot of our borders expanded and we started building alot of city improvements.

Horses were upgraded to knights and an english stlr was blocked before rush building a stlr in willsbury.

Chivalry was traded to the ironquios and mono to the US.

We lost an elite sword to reg archer near willsbury in an attempt to et a GL.

The attack on Pasgaladae wasn't a complete disaster. We lost alot of units, (1 elite sword, 2 vets and a reg) before our elite horse rushed through to take the city. Units were left in pasgal to prevent a flip and end resistance which they did in 1 turn.

We have a decent force in pas and a couple of knights near Willsbury for the attack on perperiose.

The one serious mistake was the attacking of an archer outside Willsbury with a pikeman instead of a sword but the pike won with only 1 hp lost.

The persians then landed another archer nearby which we attacked with the right unit, an elite sword which to everyones amazment produced a GL named Cheops.

People may say we were very lucky to get this GL but we were ridiculously unlucky at the attack on pasgal and when we lost the elite sword near Willsbury so overall perhaps things have evened out.

We lost alot of units and should use this Gl wisely.


Full report
260 AD
SMC
Pike in Uber n,n,ne
For force N of Willsbury
1 pike, 2 vet sword, 1elite sword move north
1 horse and 1vet sword s into willsbury
3/3 horse e of tyre skip turn
Fortify pike 2e of tyre
Catapult in Willsbury skip turn
Galley near uber isle sw,s,e

CP
Tass- wkr, Cherb-temp, Geo pike, Wills-temp

FM
Renegtiated our peace deals with alot of civs inparticular Russinas give us 7 GPT others just give us lump sum of about 10l. Mono sold to US for wkr, WM and 10l.

270 AD
Build Oakridge on old Munich

SMC
Sword in wills attacks archer kills with 2hp lost.
Sword 2/4 3se of napolitan w
Pike 1s of geo e,e to Tyre fortify
WC on uber nw,nw
Galley near uber isle s,n
Knight, sword, in Tyre e,e
Forces e,e of tyre and eee of tyre are hereby designated Persian Punishment Force PPF
Move 3/3 sword e,ne of tyre se

CP
Tass-knight

FM
renegotiated with Germans they now give us 7gpt and 14 lump sum.

280 AD
Build Opiadom

SMC
sword 3/5 near Wills attacks archer. Dies archer down
PPF moves to spot 2w of pasargadae
Sword (2/4) s,s,s
WC pops goodie Hut- deserted

CP
Timeline-cathedral

290 AD
SMC
Vet sword attacsk archer near Wills wins and becomes elite. (Important for later.)
Sword 1s of geo e,e to Tyre fortify
PPF moves e to hill overlooking Pasargadae

CP
Termina- library

300 AD
Build Thebes on Uber isle.

SMC
PPF attacks pasgal
Knight attacks wins with 2 hp lost. Elite sword attacks dies. Vet sword attacks dies. Vet sword attacks dies. Reg sword attacks dies. Elite horse attacks wins wth no HP lost. Pas taken. Remaining units move in.
Pike (yes pike) in Wills attacks archer wins with 1hp lost.

CP
Poly- aqua
Uber- wkr

FM
Chivalry sold to Ironquios for WM and 11l

310 AD
Decide to attack archer near Wills with recently promoted sword that recoverd while pike(yes pike) attacked previous archer, before ending chat.
Leet sword attacks and kills archer great leader produced cheops.

The full story goes something like this. The recoently promoted sword was in Wills in 300 ad with 2 hp damage. There is much discussion with Aro, Shiber and myself over whether to attack the archer outside with it. I don't want to cos it's got 2 damage and we lost another elite the same way earlier. In the end I am convinced to attack by ARO n Shib. Then the wrong unit is used to attack and the pike attacks. Surprisingly the pike wins with 1 hp lost and every thing is ok. The archer is gone and the elite sword gets repaired. Next turn another archer turns up and the rested sword attacks it giving a great leader, fate or what.

Chat ended W/O completing orders or ending turn

The server crashed half way through and after about 20 mins of faff we regrouped in undernet.
In the end me shob and aro were left with ada dropping in and out and a few others on the fringes.

And so ends the first set of turns of term 4.

opd

Attachment: banana of the egyptians, 310 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 12 time(s).

	29-09-2002 19:32									#4
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

310 - 380

Things went well. We did a few trades renewed the ivory deal.
We bought theology from the babs. We built a couple of new cities, I didn't know what to call them so I just gave them random names. Cheops the great built the chapel for us although we don't have a single catherdral lol. We built up to an attack on persepolis which happened at the end. We lost alot of units. all our knights were ok but most of our swords are dead. Our catapults managed to kill some persian citizens and we broke through and took the city and the pyramids. Something that aggie and co have been dreaming about for a long time.

opd

Full report 310 - 380 AD

310 AD
AGC gets tax collecter
termina and BHQ build knights
Hereitis builds courthouse
love and Gaia - WC's
sci rate to 0% 1 sci and taxes in Pas
tyre- WC
catapult west
horse to pas
WC to love
knight onto catapult
sword onto catapult too
WC in termina eastward
WC in poly to BHQ
pike pillages
WC on uber NE,NE
pike 1e of wills fortifies
pike near nap goes to nap
spear in nap goes to geo
pike near BHQ NE,N
stlr goto 4 NW of tass
stlr moves SW
cheops moves n,w.sw.sw.w
wkr onto hill

320 AD
gaia builds pike
france get dyes for 27
WC in love E,E
Wc in bhq to 2e of loveshack
Wc sw of BHQ to 2e of loveshack
catapult bombards immor on tyre road fails
knight attacks immortal on tyre road rtreats
sword attacks immortal wins
knight to tyre to recover
pike onto mountain
pike into wills
catapult to pas
cheops WW.
galley north
WC in gaia goto uber
knight in wills to pas
newburg built
knight attacks
pike and horse onto tile se,se,s
wills sword NW

330 AD
cathrine told to suck a lemon
cheops moves into ubver
pike into pas
sword into wills
horse pillages
horse and units on it move north
knight in pas attacks archer to the north wins
2 new knights in tyre upgraded
leader in uber skips

340 AD
New city built
stlr hopped
stlr in AGC onto galley too
catapult and sword onto hill outside pas
cheops skips
pike horse and knight into pas
sword in wills 2e
wkrs bought 4 47 gold

350 AD
immortal onto mountain se,se,e of pas
galley goes south
sword attacks immortal wins 4 HP lost
cheops skips
catapults move to s,s of pas
all knights in pas bar elite knight move to 2 s
all swords and 1 pike move to 2 s of pas
leet horse to 2 s of pas
leet knight skips
vet sword near pas skips

360 AD
Army South
sword into wills
galley goes south
WC on uber faffs about
spear in poly to tass
trading dyes, 14 g and 10 pt for ivory to rome
Trading chivalry,dyes and 262 gold to babs for theo, wkr and WM
uber builds the chapel
leet knight attacks immortal near pas dies
sword attacks immortal wins
WC's in wills skip

370 AD
one stlr now on wheat in uber
catapult bombards perp fails
catapult bombards perp peolple killed
galley goes south
stlr drops south
WC on uber faffs about
vet knight attacks perp retreats
vet knight attacks perp wins
vet knight attacks perp wins
reg knight attacks dies
vet sword attacks dies
vet sword attacks dies
elite sword attacks wins
leet horse attacks dies
regt sword attacks wins and takes perp. last unit too.
knights into persp
sword to pas
pike to 2 s of pas
1/5 sword in wills skips
temp in opiad rushed

380 AD
chat ended

Attachment: banana of the egyptians, 380 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 9 time(s).

	11-10-2002 20:02									#5
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

380 - 430

We took 3 more persian cities w/o any losses, built a few more cities and rose to be the number one civ in the world. I can't remember which turn it was but we connected a few more dyes and on the last turn connected inscence from the new persian cities. There was no disorder in any cities although del monte and a few others are quite big now and need entertainers.

For what we technically did please look at the minister orders. here is what happened.
(when I say army I just mean stack of units)

380
One WC upgraded to knight in willsbury.
Our pikeman in persepolis was attacked by 2 immortals and an archer. He defeated them all and was promoted to elite.
Our armies remained stationed in ex persian cities.

390
Greeks and aztecs declared peace.
Gaia finished building a courthouse.
Three knights from Pers moved on the persian city of bactra and attakced. Bactra was only defended by reg spearmen.
Vet knight vs reg spear, victory with 1 hp lost
Vet knight vs reg spear, victory with 1 hp lost again
This knight took the city and destroyed a galley on the way.
BActra was tehn starved.
We traded dyes 8 gpt and 280l to the germans for engineering. As a result we can now cross rivers w/o out the time delay, which through off alot of the following orders

400
A couple of russian horses lingered near hole in wall.
Romans offered us a trade of WM for WM.
Here it is finished building a courthouse
Our army of 2 knights and an elite sword gathered 2 nw of susa.
The knights that had taken bactra rested there.

410
We became the number one civ.
A russian horse fortified on teh border of hole in wall.
Del monte finished building a courthouse
The resistance in bactra ended
!!Moscow built leonardos workshop!!
We upgraded one knight in pasgarde
New city built on uber isle
The army 2 nw of susa moved to 1 nw
The decision to attack with the 2 knights this turn was made as it was only defended by reg spears.
vet knight vs reg spear victory with 3 hp lost.
vet knight vs reg spear victory with 2 hp lost but promoted to leet.
Susa captured and 2 workers taken.
An second army of one elite sword and 3 knights made their way towards tarsus.

420
Persian archer moves to hills off napoliton.
BHQ finishes knight
AGC finfishes stlr.
New ghengis town built 2 ne of ghengistown
Opiadom culturally expands but it is too late and chartes already has the land and alot of the other land around it too.
!!Germans start building copernicus and Bachs!!
Elite sword and vet knight move to 1 w of tarsus.
2 knights from bactra move to 2 w of tarsus

430
Persian longbowman surfaces near pasgal
Timeline build catherdral
!!Berlin finished building copernicus!!
Napolitan fnished building a catapult
!!Romans and greeks start building bachs!!
With the approval of aggie we decided to take tarsus then end the chat rather than end here.
Apoc took control but I think the following things happened.
Elite sword vs reg spear victory
vet knight vs reg spear victory
vet knight vs reg spear victory and tarsus (the new persian capital) is taken.
Capital moves to arabela.
Road conecting persepolis with rest of empire is finished giving us insence.
A few cities are renamed.

Chat ended.
opd

Attachment: banana of the egyptians, 430 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 1 time(s).

	11-10-2002 20:05									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

GAME REPORT 440-490 AD
Sunday, October 6th, 2002, 18:30 GMT

General
We conquer the Persian Capital (again…) and then we kick them out of their original homeland alltogether. Then we make peace. The Aztecs seem too fast for us in their conquest of America. We re-negotiate some peace deals. Then, the chat froze up around 490 AD...

Analysis: We're considering switching to Republic.

Military
460 Persian city of Arbela conquered. Their Capital moves to Hamadan.
460 Persian city of Antioch conquered.
460 The Persians accept our Peace Terms (Education, Invention and their World Map)
470 Peace re-negotiated with several Civs.

Analysis: There is a general discussion on when to build ships, and which type. Discovering the Lost Civs first could give us financial and/or technological advantages. First though, we'll have to acquire the appriopriate techs.

Cities
440 The French city of Chartres decides to join the Apolytonian Empire.
450 Colony Founded (Incense) (near Susa)
460 New City Founded: "Hole in Wall" (1 tile south of the 'old' city of Hole in Wall)
460 New City Founded: "Thebes" (on the west coast of Uber Isle)
470 Tombstone is abandoned by building a settler. Tombstone Pizzas Football Team are looking for a new home ground.
490 A Temple was rushed in Arbela.

Analysis: The Government is concerned about possible 'Culture Flipping' of the city of Arbela. This would mean the loss of our three Spice Resources, two of which we are currently trading. It would mean damage to our repuation.

Trades
450 (We give) Incense; (Romans give) 6 g, 10 gpt and their World Map.
460 (Persians give) Education, Invention and their World Map; (We give) Peace.
470 We re-negotiate peace with Germany: (We give) Peace (Germany gives) 15 g and 7 gpt
470 We re-negotiate peace with Greece: (We give) Peace (Greece gives) World Map
470 Spice deal. (We give) Spices; (Germany gives) 8g and 7 gpt.
470 We re-negotiate peace with the Aztecs: (We give) Peace (Aztecs give) 23 g.
470 We re-negotiate peace with the Babylonians: (We give) Peace (Babylonians give) 2g, a Worker and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with the Iroquois: (We give) Peace (Iroquois give) 2g and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with France: (We give) Peace (France gives) 18g and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with England: (We give) Peace, Spices (England gives) 19g, Music Theory and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with Russia: (We give) Peace (Russia gives) World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with Rome: (We give) Peace (Rome gives) 5g, 3 gpt and World Map.

Science
460 Education and Invention gained from Persians.
470 Music Theory acquired from the English.

Analysis: Rome, Greece and Germany have Astronomy.

Foreign
450 The Aztecs take the American city of Chicago
490 Rome and Germany now have Gunpowder (cost: at least 1033 g). It is unknown if they have access to Saltpeter.

Attachment: banana of the egyptians, 490 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	13-10-2002 17:53									#7
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

490 - 530
I only took half the first turn which is why the report is missing so much

Don't know exactly what happened this time. We declared an alliance with the aztecs agianst the US who were wiped out before the end of the chat. We took New york and the Aztecs took boston.

We rushed a temple in BFM and a cathedrael in Arabela. We ahve a city size ten. We are now completely at peace.

When taking NY I think we on;y lost one knight and the aztec army was beaten.

Thats all I can see for now perhaps someone could help us out?

Build queues 4 long were set up between chats by ET and are included in the save below.

Attachment: banana of the egyptians,cp,530 ad et.sav
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).

	16-10-2002 17:03									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

530 -580

Temple rushed in NY,
Worker rushed in boom town,
Courthouse rushed in seeburg,
Pike rushed in Ghengistown,
WC rushed in poly.
Our millitary forces where distributed this time so as to begin the set up of 4 rapid reaction forces.
One in the west in Macross,
One in the east in Arabela,
One east central in NY,
One west central in Chiquita.
Eventually each will have 5 knights but atm the ones which actually have units are mostly WC's waiting to be upgraded.
The babs asked for a trade of WM's but we told them no chance.
The french are building up forces in and around Rhiems.
The ironquios also asked for a map trade but were told to get lost.
A temple was rsuhed in Antioch after the english expanded to take the nearby iron.
The city of chartes was abandoned by building a stlr and moved 1 square sw.
Tass rushed an aqua and thebes rushed a temple.
Dyes were given back to the ironquois for a small amount of money and a WM and to the aztecs aswell.
The deal getting ivory from the Romans was allowed to end. The loss of the ivory was unexpected and resulted in the cities of Gaia, Hereitis and Delmonte going into disorder.
Dyes were also given to the babs for a small amount of money and a WM and wkr. Dyes were also given to persia for money, WM and wkr.
The road network in uberisle is well underway and should be completed by the time we have a harbour there.

Attachment: banana of the egyptians, 580 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 6 time(s).