23-09-2002 00:17									#1
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Coming from an upcoming review by UGO, here are 3 new screenshots of Civilization 3: Play the World. Thanks to Jonah Falcon of UGO. We look forward to view of the game, which is expected some time next month(although an exact release date has not been officially announced.

	23-09-2002 01:11									#2
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oops ... sorry.

	23-09-2002 01:12									#3
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Did we know this info before? I've been away for a while, and so could easily have missed it, but it looks like news to me...

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	23-09-2002 03:39									#4
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i dont think we had seen the face of the korean leader....

	23-09-2002 04:20									#5
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I'd however have chosen Kim Il sung instead of him...

	23-09-2002 04:41									#6
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG i dont think we had seen the face of the korean leader....

we saw him in a diplomacy screen, some people thought he didn't look korean and I tried looking for his picture to compare but couldn't find one.

	23-09-2002 05:28									#7
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The only 'missing' face is Hannibal. Hence, Speedy's "I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of Hannibal in any of our products" reply to my question in the chat.

	23-09-2002 07:23									#8
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm The only 'missing' face is Hannibal. Hence, Speedy's "I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of Hannibal in any of our products" reply to my question in the chat.

Hannibal is in CivIII PtW, as per the preview from Gamesman.co.nz

quote: * Eight new Leaders including: Genghis Khan Temujin, King Hannibal, Queen Isabella and King Brennus will challenge your diplomatic and combat skills * Eight new Civilizations: Represented in four eras, each Civilization features new units for even more strategic depth * Multiplayer: Face off against the best Civilization players worldwide with multiplayer modes like Elimination, Domination, Regicide and King of the Mountain * Multiplayer Modes: Includes Turn-Based and Simultaneous game types and appearing for the first time in a Civilization game, a Turnless mode * Complete Scenario Support: Create scenarios from any time period, including those outside earth's history

Civ III PtW can be pre-ordered there for NZ$64.95 (only shipped to Australia +NZ)

	23-09-2002 15:54									#9
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But have you seen a picture?

	23-09-2002 20:00									#10
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The Korean stats seem to have been switched from Sci/Com to Rel/Com. Or perhaps the other way, if the pictures are from an older release.

	24-09-2002 08:10									#11
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Was the cannon replacement UU already known? I hadn't heard about anyone with a vanilla bombardment unit UU. Frankly, I never use any bombard units up until artillery, and even then, sparingly. Cannon are probably the worst- they show up at exactly the wrong time to be of any use. (Running down cavalry with your cannon? Yeah right.) Using them for defense is mostly a waste, as they'll only do damage to the first certain amount of units on the stack. About the only way you could make a cannon replacement useful is giving it a move of four with multiple attacks and boosting the bombard rate until it could take off two bars per hit. That would be rather scary, actually, but it'd be a nice change from the cannon as the useless unit that even the AI is hardly ever stupid enough to build.

	24-09-2002 09:44									#12
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm But have you seen a picture?

No picture of Hannibal has been seen yet. If there was, he'd be in my leaders thread.

	24-09-2002 12:22									#13
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Okay, I'm sending Mark and Dan a picture of Hannibal from Civ3:PTW then.

	24-09-2002 13:41									#14
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many thanks Jonah!

	24-09-2002 16:29									#15
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Well, I haven't checked a historical picture, so I can't judge the realism, but I like the Hannibal head. Thanks!

What a pity I usually can't see any leader smiling at me: they usually are furious at me, or annoyed at the best.

	24-09-2002 17:08									#16
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Thanks, Jonah! Interesting pic. I like the way Hannibal was depicted. That's roughly how I imagined him to be.

	24-09-2002 19:31									#17
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I'm a big fan of the A-team and hannibal looks nothing like that

	24-09-2002 23:18									#18
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Just so you know, Mass Regicide, you have a bunch of kings, instead of just one.

	25-09-2002 00:33									#19
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quote: Originally posted by JonahFalcon Just so you know, Mass Regicide, you have a bunch of kings, instead of just one.

:drool:

thanks for the info

TheStinger: yeah! where's the cigar?
* Hannibal loves it when a plan comes together

	25-09-2002 01:55									#20
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Hannibal looks splendid, and hey, he's General Hannibal! I'm very very very very very pleased indeed.

	25-09-2002 02:38									#21
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I'll also be discussing the editor, new scenarios, etc.

	25-09-2002 02:39									#22
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So what do the Dino's look like in game?

(I know there was one that looked like an artist's rendering)

	25-09-2002 02:44									#23
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...and the WW2 units...and the Japanese Units...and the new terrain...and the user interface changes...and how well MP works...and...and...and...

	25-09-2002 02:48									#24
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Hannibal looks very nice. This will please all the people who requested a picture of Hannibal.

	25-09-2002 02:54									#25
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He looks like a nice guy, okay, a guy whose had a few drinks.

	25-09-2002 03:07									#26
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And a few cleaved skulls, too.

	25-09-2002 17:08									#27
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A portrait of GENERAL Hannibal!!!

Have they been reading my "Carthaginians" thread, i wonder?

	26-09-2002 09:06									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Sonic I'd however have chosen Kim Il sung instead of him...

Kim Il sung is the leader of north korea and does not have to do with anything about the era of korean civilization portrayed by civ3 PTW....


ex: "it's like saying, why is queen elizabeth the leader of england? I want Churchill".... same country, different era (and civ3 represents the first english civ) in ur case its even different country cause north korea and south korea obviously broke up.

	26-09-2002 09:13									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Patriqvium The Korean stats seem to have been switched from Sci/Com to Rel/Com. Or perhaps the other way, if the pictures are from an older release.

again, this change is probably to reflect more of the civ era chosen by firaxis

modern korea is different from ancient korea. So this is my guess... firaxis looking at korea said to themselves, "ah korea, its that country where there's like alot of doctors and scientists(forgot which movie but they had trivia that S.Korea has the most M.D grads each year in any nation or seomthing) crawling around and playing pc games and everyone has cell phone etc (or what ever their reason is)... lets make them sci and comm". Then mayeb when they researched korean history a little bit for civlopedia they felt religious and commercial fit more well for that era of korean civlization... (although if you tell that to my family memeber them being nationalistic will bust out that we built first ironclad and printing press in the world, had influence in chinese breakthru in science etc.)

Im not quite sure if they changed from rel/comm to sci/comm or vice versa but my guesses are it went from sci/comm to rel/comm for the reason stated above. (Damn I would have played them if they were sci/comm, a good combo for being scientific partner in multiplayer but I guess religious is better trait in itself IMO so thats not too bad.)

	27-09-2002 09:44									#30
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Hannibal is no more "king!" Excellent! And I must say he cuts an imposing figure. Should be interesting to see him in industrial suits and modern outfits.