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SpencerH
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Co-Ruler of my patch of land south of Birmingham Alabama
Feb 2002
time: 23:22
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Further reading of the link provides
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The congressional testimony from 1994 cites an American Type shipment in 1985 to the Iraq Ministry of Higher Education of a substance that resembles tuberculosis and influenza and causes enlargement of the liver and spleen. It can also infect the brain, lungs, heart and spinal column. The substance is called histoplasma capsulatum.
American Type also provided clones used in the development of germs that would kill plants. The material went to the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission, which the U.S. government says is a front for Saddam's military.
An organization called the State Company for Drug Industries received a pneumonia virus, and E. coli, salmonella and staphylcoccus in August 1987 under U.S. license, according to the Senate testimony. The country's Ministry of Trade got 33 batches of deadly germs, including anthrax and botulism in 1988.
Ten months after the first President Bush was inaugurated in 1988, an unnamed U.S. firm sent eight substances, including the germ that causes strep throat, to Iraq's University of Basrah.
An unnamed office in Basrah, Iraq, got "West Nile Fever Virus" from an unnamed U.S. company in 1985, the Senate testimony shows.
While there is no proof that the recent outbreak of West Nile virus in the United States stemmed from anything Iraq did, Riegle said, "You have to ask yourself, might there be a connection?" |
While it may seem foolish in retrospect to have sent anything. All of these bugs with the exception of the H. capsulatum (which is a fungus) could have easily been isolated from patients with the diseases in Iraq.
Oh my god we sent strep to Iraq 
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OneFootInTheGrave
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Kuzelj
Nov 2000
time: 05:22
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Originally posted by Ned
Reasonable question. What is the alternative? |
First of all 
Noone asks what is the alternative for Pakistan having nuclear capability, in the hands of a dictator ("albeit friendly one" - hey Saddam was our friend 15 years ago  )
And what do we know about US and western undercover capabilities.
One thing I know is that little Israel streched out and destroyed Saddams nuclear facility early on in the eighties at the time when US wouldn't bother to lift a finger so they had to do it themselves, a true militaty feat. But if they could do it , surely there are other ways with all the espionage/ satelite tech that US/Europe has - to find out where the bases are and to destory them without an out right war, if the threat is so real.
And do you really think that Bush Sr, could not take Saddam down last time, if he really wanted to, no they wanted him in power still, but he probably doesn't want to play their game so he is a good first target. As public really see him as a monster and are most likely to support the action againt him first.
And if the war is againt terrorism, why aren't you fighting them on their ground, but insted creating more of them. Not to mention true humanitarian help, organisation of educations, and the like... a lot of good can be done for 100 billion USD that will be spent on the war, in US only.
Furthermore - it is obvious that some other EU countries who are closer geographically to Irak do not have anything to gain (fear) from Iraq to prompt an invasion.
For Kuvait they all agreed, obviously the reasons are different now.
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OneFootInTheGrave
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Kuzelj
Nov 2000
time: 05:22
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Another thing I get tired of is "The USA did this and that and used to be friendly with so-and-so".
Big damned deal.
I'd be willing to bet that there's not 1 person here that has had an individual friendship in the past, and helped that past friend out, only to later not be friends, and perhaps even regret the favor. |
While this is true... this is about governmental policy and not friendship. There is no real friends there there is interest.
And US gov interest , and the UK on should be its citizens - and they know it. And they pretend that they are. They tell you that they are - obviously. And they want to make you think that what they want to do - for some other reasons -is what you want to do.
They pick the reason that the public is most likely to accept and than they serve it to us.
And at the end you think they are doing it for you. Well that is the nature of SPIN  ... corporational, governmental... any...
What I would like to know is what is the real reason first, and than - what are the real risks.
And how that everyone is so tuned in on treating terrorism with guns, shooting , and creating more of the same, and not asking themselves what is the cause of the whole thing. Not even asking publicly. Just some minor outsiders dare to ask that question as if it not in the national interest.
Not to mention that Iraq war doesn't have to do anything with terrorism at all, it is WOMD threat. While Afganistan is getting worse, and anyway most of Al Quaeda in in Pakistan now. - Pakistan with nukes don't forget - and a secret service which created Taliban.
Noone mentiones that on CNN lately.
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24-09-2002 18:06
. The point is they werent sent there as biochem weapons but as transfers from the CDC for biomedical research. It doesnt change the stupidity of it though.
are you getting the truth channeled down to you trough CNN and the like. At least someone in the know had guts to ask them.
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