27-09-2002 17:28									#1
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We have now discovered the Republic, this is a poll asking when or if to change government over to republic.
We can go into revolution prior to hitting enter on this turn and we will change next turn 700 AD, the next oedo years are 780,860,940,1020 , 1100,1180,1260,1340,1420 ,1500

Please vote for your recomendation and post comments below (+1)

we have 17 cities, 8 have temples and 4 more will be completed next turn .

	27-09-2002 17:35									#2
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I hate republic, I always wait unilt Demo.

	27-09-2002 17:38									#3
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Production will slow down as happiness reigns. We'll need to complete our temples.

My thought is that we do this as soon as we have Mike's. Now, when might that be????

	27-09-2002 17:56									#4
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I'm not voting for any set length of time.

Like -Jrabbit, I think we should wait for Mike's, and also until we've built more temples before we go ahead with Republic.

	27-09-2002 18:32									#5
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we need to wait until the president feels that he has finished preparing the cities for switching to republic, i think that it should be a yes or no vote with the understanding that the pres switches when the country is ready

	27-09-2002 20:45									#6
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As I always say, we need at least more temples before switching. And the distance for Mike's is a relevant parameter.
So, as the majority of the posts, I think I cannot vote on a year, but on the situation allowing revolution.

	27-09-2002 21:43									#7
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Lets give ourselves a challenge and revolt asap

	28-09-2002 02:22									#8
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We can't go Republic yet. At least 2 of our cities currently have more units than shields, and will go negative. A couple others will go zero. We need to improve production in some cities and complete our temples before revolting.

	28-09-2002 02:37									#9
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Yes let's wait a little bit till all our temples are finished or we will face more or less chaos in our cities after this is secured let's head for Rep.

	28-09-2002 04:38									#10
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear We can't go Republic yet. At least 2 of our cities currently have more units than shields, and will go negative. A couple others will go zero. We need to improve production in some cities and complete our temples before revolting.

perhaps I am the only person who retrains military units into trade caravans.

	28-09-2002 06:34									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey perhaps I am the only person who retrains military units into trade caravans.

No, I change warriors into shields regularly. It's just one of those obvious things that need to be done when preparing for Republic, something I often do when I feel like playing a representative deity game. Which I do when I feel I need a challenge.

	28-09-2002 15:54									#12
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losing ourself in a republic no thanks, rather go commi evolve and then go demo.

Republic=

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	29-09-2002 01:31									#13
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This shows that the people have already chosen representative government, and rejected communism. The question is just one of when.

	29-09-2002 04:16									#14
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I firmly believe that this Republicanism is thanks to the actions of the Apolyton Capitalist Party (ACP), who campaigned in the Old Apolytonia for Capitalist Republicanism (well, Democracy, but whos counting?) - even though we're about 15 million million years late.. we claim this as.. VICTORY!!!

However, the fact that more people voted for the banana option shows how the Communist right-wingers have corrupted the minds of our citizens!


Right guys? You agree with me, right? Yes? Right? Erm.. I'll start the car.

	29-09-2002 16:56									#16
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quote: Originally posted by CannonFodder This shows that the people have already chosen representative government, and rejected communism. The question is just one of when.

I know, but personally I reject Republic...it is far inferior,in my opinion.
(corruption vs NO corruption)
(shields needed for troops vs 3 free troops)
(IIRC both have the same max%)
(unhappiness due to troops vs no unhappiness)
(extra trade arrows vs no extra trade-arrows)
(at least 20 or 30% lux needed to keep ppl happy vs ?what are luxuries?)
I think the last time I played as a republic was in Civ1.

But I am only one in a crowd...so if I'm wrong you don't need to be affraid.

Shade

	29-09-2002 19:18									#17
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i voted banana because i don't think we can set a specific date for switching. we need a poll that says should we switch to republic when our president feels we are ready?

	29-09-2002 21:41									#18
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I also voted "banana" as the only way to prevent our forcing ourselves into changing to Republic and a possibly disasterous moment. I encourage any remaining or (heretofore) abstaining voters to choose the "banana" option for that reason.

As to exactly when we *do* change, perhaps the President should decide during game play, but I would rather he (whoever that turns out to be) stop a session at an Oedo Year and poll the citizens first. It seems vaguely illogical for Reublic to be imposed on the citizenry.

	30-09-2002 03:39									#19
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear but I would rather he (whoever that turns out to be) stop a session at an Oedo Year and poll the citizens first.

Just what I did.

	30-09-2002 04:31									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey Just what I did.

Great minds think alike... I understood that you stopped at a point to let the citizens decide. I respect that. It was the right thing to do. You've done a great job as President.

A change of administration isn't a rejection of the previous administration, just a desire for a regular change at the top. If I end up winning this election, I won't be seeking a 2nd straight term. Please tell us that you will stay a part of our game. You are valued, you've done a wonderful job.

Our world is better with Peter Hyde in it that out of it....

	30-09-2002 10:17									#21
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Republic isn't a bad government if you have big, close cities with large industries. In fact, for waging war, if you have women's suffrage it is not bad at all, so long as your industry is strong. It is great if you need technology but also need to fight. Just take a look at the included ww2 scenario and you'll see how well it works for the Axis.

	30-09-2002 13:04									#22
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower i voted banana because i don't think we can set a specific date for switching. we need a poll that says should we switch to republic when our president feels we are ready?

quote: Originally posted by cavebear I also voted "banana" as the only way to prevent our forcing ourselves into changing to Republic and a possibly disasterous moment. I encourage any remaining or (heretofore) abstaining voters to choose the "banana" option for that reason.

It was the meaning of my early vote !

	30-09-2002 18:15									#23
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quote: Originally posted by CannonFodder Republic isn't a bad government if you have big, close cities with large industries. In fact, for waging war, if you have women's suffrage it is not bad at all, so long as your industry is strong. It is great if you need technology but also need to fight. Just take a look at the included ww2 scenario and you'll see how well it works for the Axis.

problem is that by the time you get to such a situation you can also go for democracy wich has the of 0 corruption and bribe-protection.

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	02-10-2002 11:30									#24
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Anyone know when the next Oedo year is? :doitthen:

	02-10-2002 16:46									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Ren Anyone know when the next Oedo year is? :doitthen:

The years listed in the poll *are* the upcoming Oedo Years.