03-10-2002 00:25									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Clinton/Gore broke the law in the 1996 elections... funding scandals... etc...

So why didn't the Republicans try and impeach him on this? Oh, that's right, because they were just as guilty.

	03-10-2002 00:25									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You want MORE people subjected to Mississippi rule?!

Absolutely. Someone must bring order to chaos and that burden falls to us. Don't worry. We'll be coming to Georgia soon enough.

	03-10-2002 00:27									#63
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Bah! Name one Republican president that Europe has liked!

Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, shall I go on?

	03-10-2002 00:30									#64
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, shall I go on?

Yes, and confine your answers to the 20th century for the sake my convenience.

	03-10-2002 00:32									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You'd think we'd learn about electing Governors to President, eh? None of them can figure out foreign policy. We should let states declare war on each other for 'experience' .

Governor Ryan of Illinois certainly seems to be pretty good on foreign policy. Hell, I'd even vote for the man if I still lived in Illinois. Okay, so he's probably in it up to the eyeballs in the payola for license scandal, but he's done a lot of good for Illinois. Definately better than Edgar, maybe better than 'Big Gay' Jim Tompson.

Ryan for President!

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Yes, and confine your answers to the 20th century for the sake my convenience.

Well now I can't. That just leaves Ike and Teddy (and maybe Taft, he wasn't so bad).

	03-10-2002 01:17									#67
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Everybody likes Ike.

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Saint Marcus, He did a good job, I agree. Bravo Clinton.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Governor Ryan of Illinois certainly seems to be pretty good on foreign policy. Hell, I'd even vote for the man if I still lived in Illinois. Okay, so he's probably in it up to the eyeballs in the payola for license scandal, but he's done a lot of good for Illinois.

I did vote for him, and don't regret it.

What I find humorous is all the Democrats tying desperately to nail him on the license scandal... considering all the Chicago Democrats have been living on kick backs for years...

	03-10-2002 01:40									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Yeah, I miss him, too. I miss the prosperity of the Clinton Era.

The economic downturn started during his term, April of 2000, and was a (samll) factor in Gores loss.

	03-10-2002 01:40									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus About what? About him having an affair? Nobody should have asked him for an answer in the first place, it's his own private life. And if he is asked, he has a right to lie about things like that. which god is that (you writing it with a lower case letter and all) Anyway, it's funny how the rest of the world misses Clinton, and the Americans don't. Then again, it's also funny that Clinton had high popularity ratings in the US when he was in office, but low ones when he got out. Bizarre. (well not bizarre, just right wing indoctrination )

Saint Marcus, Clinton always had good job performance ratings but very poor "character" ratings. While a lot of his poor ratings were because of the sex scandals, a lot of it also had to do with out-and-out political corruption and lying while under oath.

Had Clinton been honest, he would have had a very successful presidency.

	03-10-2002 01:42									#72
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Edit: Sorry, I lost my temper. I am sick of this Marcus character... quite an attitude... and he is a hypocrit too. Always trying to attack the right when his beliefs are very weak.

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	03-10-2002 01:46									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Had Clinton been honest, he would have had a very successful presidency.

But he never would have been elected, his worst lying was during campaigns.

	03-10-2002 01:52									#74
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Fez... I'm get a little sick of your personal insults... One more out of you and you are toast. Argue all you want, but stop calling people idiots...

And by the way, I saw it BEFORE you edited it!

	03-10-2002 01:55									#75
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Ming, that is the reason why I edited it. I am basically sick and tired of being burned by several people who don't have a clue about what I think.

	03-10-2002 02:01									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Edit: Sorry, I lost my temper. I am sick of this Marcus character... quite an attitude... and he is a hypocrit too. Always trying to attack the right when his beliefs are very weak.

FEZ... and many people think the same of you... Deal with it. Everybody is welcome to their own opinions.

Just express them... don't insult people!

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Bad Fez! Down boy!

	03-10-2002 02:03									#78
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Fine, fine... sorry Ming.

	03-10-2002 02:08									#79
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in your face giancarlo

thanks for the comic relief, I needed it after this long and boring day

	03-10-2002 02:09									#80
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In your face, Marc.

No no, thank you. I needed a laugh after hearing your rhetoric.

	03-10-2002 02:14									#81
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quote: I am basically sick and tired of being burned by several people who don't have a clue about what I think.

gee, I wonder why people do that all the time?

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quote: In your face, Marc.

it's Mark, mind you.

quote: your rhetoric.

all I said was that I missed Bill. What rethoric have I used in this thread?

of course, you can't answer that one

	03-10-2002 02:17									#83
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Mark: Fine... miss Bill... that is what makes me laugh....

	03-10-2002 02:28									#84
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I miss 'ol Bill too.

I think the big difference between Bill and Jorge Dubya, is that Bill tried to act like the "Leader of the Free World", whereas Jorge seems to think he is the "Boss of the Free World". Small wonder, then, that few outside the USA like Jorge.

If Bill can't be Prez again, I invite him up here to attempt to unseat Chretien... we obviously have No restriction on the number of terms for a PM, and I can guarantee better looking interns.

	03-10-2002 02:39									#85
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quote: Fine... miss Bill... that is what makes me laugh....

that isn't rethoric.

	03-10-2002 02:51									#86
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SM, Do you approve of what Bill said? According to reports of his speech, he was highly grateful for Blair's support of the US on Iraq. He thanked him profusely. This puts Clinton squarely on the side of Gephardt and others of his party in supporting the effort for Saddam to obey the UN or else.

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Clinton could have used the whole 2000 election fiasco as an excuse to declare the American electoral process immoral and corrupt and declare himself president for life.

	03-10-2002 03:19									#88
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Ned:

Yes, but Clinton did say:

A. go through the UN
B. push for inspections
C. push for regime change through non-military ways

Bush is doing A reluctantly, and B not at all, and C also reluctantly.

I am all for going after Saddam...but I have just 2 demands. First, try to get the inspectors back in, second, find other ways to get rid of Saddam, and lastly to get the Security Council to approve of the attack.

Anyways, Clinton talked about way more than Iraq. He also talked about how bad conservatives suck.

	03-10-2002 03:22									#89
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Replace a 'c' wish an 's' and you just might have something there…
But he never would have done it because he believes in democracy too much, and just has too many moral scruples.

	03-10-2002 03:32									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus all I said was that I missed Bill.

I'm still here. How can you miss me?