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ATHENS, Greece - Demonstrators at an anarchist march Tuesday chanted slogans in support of Greece's deadly November 17 terrorist group but avoided confrontation with police.
More than a thousand people joined the central Athens rally, held to protest the police's alleged abuse of power since it cracked down on the once-elusive terrorist group and arrested 17 suspected members.
The far-left organization killed 23 people — including officials from Britain, Turkey and the United States — between 1975 and 2000.
Members of anarchist groups and supporters took part in the march which ended without incident. The city's main streets were closed to traffic for more than an hour, while more than 400 police officers in riot gear stood by.
Youths wearing black hoods and crash helmets sprayed slogans on the walls of Athens University and other downtown buildings. One said: "Respect for November 17," while another read: "Freedom for the fighters who never give up."
Police said the French companion of Alexandros Giotopoulos, the alleged November 17 leader, who is in prison custody, joined Tuesday's rally.
The arrests of November 17 suspects were triggered by a bungled bomb attack on June 29.
Anarchists groups have voiced protest against police Greece's news media since the crackdown started and have on several occasions attacked journalists and TV camera crews.
Government, political parties condemn pro-terrorist demonstration
Wed Oct 2,12:19 PM ET
ATHENS, Greece - The Socialist government and political parties on Wednesday condemned a demonstration by about 1,500 people who marched through Athens in support of Greece's deadliest terrorist group and chanted insults about some of its victims.
"We disagree ideologically and politically and ... felt some particularly bad feelings from some of the slogans that were heard," said government spokesman Christos Protopappas.
But he conceded the marchers had the right to voice their support for the November 17 group, which is blamed for killing 23 people — including 4 American officials — since 1975. The group's latest victim was British defense attache Stephen Saunders, gunned down in June 2000.
Although there have been some small gatherings in support of November 17, it was the first such rally to be held in Greece. Many demonstrators in Tuesday's march chanted slogans in favor of November 17 suspects in jail pending trial.
The group carried a mix of Marxists and ultra-nationalist outlooks. It is named for the day in 1973 when military rulers crushed a student-led protest.
Demonstrators also spray-painted pro-November 17 messages on the walls of Athens University and chanted slogans ridiculing November 17 victims.
"What is right is that Saunders is alone and needs another two," some of the demonstrators chanted.
Conservative deputy Dora Bakoyianni, a leading candidate for mayor of Athens in Oct. 13 elections, condemned the march. She is the widow of Pavlos Bakoyiannis, a popular conservative deputy, was killed by the group in 1989.
"It causes me rage, rage and repugnance," Bakoyianni said. "I must say that it is inconceivable for the birthplace of civilization to present such an image ... With the desecration of innocent victims and monuments of this city."
A public prosecutor ordered police to examine video tapes of the demonstration in an effort to identify the people who spray-painted the university. He asked for their arrest on charges of "celebrating criminal activity."
Now I am disgusted by these people but in a democracy averyone has the right to let his voice be heard.
I wonder if this would be allowed in other allegded "democratic" countries like the UK and the US.
We are really the best.
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Bereta_Eder
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Cato and Cicero read Plato and Aristotle.
In anycase to compare your country with Rome is ridiculous to say the least.
you have a crimerate that makes you equal to latin america. no social security and around 38 million living below poverty homeless and dying.
you are the hell Europe tries not to be and has succeded so far.
to state that america is a well organized and civilized no less society is laughable at best.
unless you compare yourself with uganda.
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Bereta_Eder
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and you had the facts about marches in the US wrong as well. figures.
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Bereta_Eder
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Doesnt LA ring a bell when it comes to vandalism? or the riots at seattle?
dont you have laws for that?
or do you compare them with writing slogans on some walls?
you americans sure aint very fast witted.
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Felch
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Germantown, Maryland
Sep 2001
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Originally posted by paiktis22
Cato and Cicero read Plato and Aristotle.
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True, but they had their own views. Early Americans viewed Rome as more stable and a better model than Athens (Bear in mind most of Greece was never democratic)
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In anycase to compare your country with Rome is ridiculous to say the least.
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Why? Our legions prop up regimes we like (hence November 17) and overthrow ones we don't like (Too many to count). Our culture permeates virtually every other country in the world (You are communicating in English, on a website about an American product, using Internet protocols developed by Americans). We are the new Rome, a modern republic where the rule of law is superior to the whims of the mob.
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you have a crimerate that makes you equal to latin america. no social security and around 38 million living below poverty homeless and dying.
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Okay, how about this? Crimes are committed by people around the world, it's hardly an American problem. Social Security is one of the largest items on the American budget, in spite of the fact that it's not in the Constitution. And the poverty line is changed routinely, moving up to reflect that Americans have very high standards of living, even among the poor (hence, cg and Albert Speer for example is able to use technology that the majority of people in the world would never conceive of using.)
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you are the hell Europe tries not to be and has succeded so far.
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Europe? You mean that place where the Balkans are? Oh yes, because I remember just a couple years ago all that ethnic cleansing that was taking place out in Indiana between different nationalist ethnic groups that had to be cut stopped by the use of European air power. Right, sure, whatever.
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to state that america is a well organized and civilized no less society is laughable at best.
unless you compare yourself with uganda. |
Wow, a well reasoned and rational argument supported by impeachable evidence. I just can't argue with your astounding logic, my dear little Hellene.
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Bereta_Eder
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yes america does prop up murderous regimes. that why people are amuzed when you cry about osama and the payback you received.
crime at your tortured country is inhumane and there is no comparison with europe
your "culture" is regarded as trash everywhere and is good just for passing 2 hours when you have nothing else to do
to compare yourself with rome is laughable and testimony to your incredible sillyness.
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Bereta_Eder
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and apparebntly you had teh facts about the marches in US wrong. being in one doesn automatically endow you with complete knowledge of the laws, nomatter how suprising this must seem to you.
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Bereta_Eder
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then you should not complain when terrorists kill your people since you obviously regard it as just punishment.
there is no ethnic cleansing in the US but there are more dead from its inhuman violence over the years. besides the balkans isnt my country (another surprise maybe) the amount of violence in the US is simply breathtaking, yet you seem to have been accustomed to it not to make such a big impression.
i'm glad you acknowledge your "culture" is trash. ours isnt the fact that you dont see more of our films is a matter that concerns you, solely
america cannot compared with rome unless by dumb witted americans to explain why would be a waste of internet space
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02-10-2002 22:57
(like he can tell the difference)
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