07-10-2002 17:10									#61
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quote: Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave When we are talking support than it would be the best to take a Battleship on nuclear power with the crew. Well than... you could rule that is for sure as long as you are there, not just Europe but everywhere and there is no need for a laptop either you have all you need on board....

But i want my tank

i'm not going back if can't have it

	07-10-2002 18:53									#62
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I'd bring a solar-powered laptop with satellite Internet connection and sit wherever I land endlessly refreshing at the Poly URL and staring glumly at the "server not found" message.

	07-10-2002 21:23									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Al'Kimiya I would invade the holy land from the infidels, ending the jewish diaspora and build the third temple as Messiah.

	07-10-2002 21:26									#64
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Oh and to avoid backstabbers.....

Before you go, research kings of the time who were dying of them incurable diseases, bring back medicines and cure them, perform a few other miraculous life saving favors for them. Saving peoples lives goes a long way to loyalty .

	07-10-2002 21:59									#65
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AD 1402...

I would go to Greenland and check out how the Norse colony there was doing, try and find out why it disappeared 100 years later.

And I would take a trip to Vinland of course. With my modern weapons I would massacre the skraelings and establish a permanent Viking empire there.

	08-10-2002 00:07									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen Oh and to avoid backstabbers..... Before you go, research kings of the time who were dying of them incurable diseases, bring back medicines and cure them, perform a few other miraculous life saving favors for them. Saving peoples lives goes a long way to loyalty .

Yah, look at how people treated Jesus...

It's human nature to envy. Putting yourself in a position of power will almost always lead to someone wanting what you have, willing to do what it takes to displace you. Some sort of alarm/surveilance system would be a good idea for any megalomaniacs. Just make sure to set up a reliable electrical source before making your move... and even then you'd be vulnerable to sabotage of that electrical source.

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Mike got my picks exactly. I'd take loads of antibiotics and steroids, plus as much saffron and nutmeg as I could carry. Then I'd set up shop as an apothecary and make a small fortune.

	08-10-2002 00:12									#68
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Actually, I'd take loads of viagra too.

	08-10-2002 00:15									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Aeson Yah, look at how people treated Jesus... It's human nature to envy. Putting yourself in a position of power will almost always lead to someone wanting what you have, willing to do what it takes to displace you. Some sort of alarm/surveilance system would be a good idea for any megalomaniacs. Just make sure to set up a reliable electrical source before making your move... and even then you'd be vulnerable to sabotage of that electrical source.

Did Jesus save the life of the king of France, that of his some of his ailing familly members, then wipe out the British to show how much I like em?

	08-10-2002 00:53									#70
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I'm just saying, you'd make enemies no matter how you came to power. I'd think if you showed that much power (wiping out a nationality) even the king of France would be after your head secretly. Too much risk in leaving you alive. So be prepared to kill anyone and everyone... which doesn't seem like a fun existance to me.

Besides, no one wants to be Hitler.

	08-10-2002 00:58									#71
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Are you sure about that?

quote: Besides, no one wants to be Hitler.

I would rather say there are steps to becoming Hitler, and many if given the right environment would behave in the same manner given the opportunity. There are plenty of madman running around just the society stops them fulfilling their potential most of the time. (after it creates them first of course)...

	08-10-2002 01:08									#72
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I'm giving people the benefit of the doubt.

I'd agree that given the proper environment, most people could be warped into doing atrocious things.

	08-10-2002 01:47									#73
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I'd want ot help a modern civilization. Some one who believes in human rights (at least for their own people; outsiders can go to hell), has a history of R&D, and has the potential to change the world.

1400: The Doge of Venice receives an offer he can't refuse.

1401: The Arsenal (think skunkworks of medieval era; it was the place where the venetians developed new weaposn and occasionally ships. The place turned out warships in HOURS) develops a steam powered machine gun, and takes it against g gian galeazzo.

1402: Venice annexes the duchy of milan, and by 1450 rules over a federation of italy.

1453: Turkish cannons at constantinople face the Venetian army. Hot air ballons let venetian artilleryman use pintpoint accuracy, saving the city for christendom.

	08-10-2002 01:54									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Sonic That's why I'd go to Lithuanian Great Duchy - we were pagan at a time, so, no inquisition/which burnings. And Wizards were respected much.

Not in 1400 it wasn't. It was a Catholic Duchy with tolerance for the Orothodox Church.

	08-10-2002 02:04									#75
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I'd take a list of where each of you was going, then show up and kill you and hide your body before you could do any damage to history. Then I'd fling all of the corpses in Stromboli and pitch myself in aftwards.

BTW, I'm wondering how any of youn could carry a tank in your arms, let alone a battleship.

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quote: Originally posted by boann you know if you take with you all that way out stuff they would just burn you at the stake thinking you a witch or wizard. folks back in that time were very supersitious.

That was my first thought -- I'd end up getting killed pretty quickly.

	08-10-2002 02:11									#77
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I'd take a list of where each of you was going, then show up and kill you and hide your body before you could do any damage to history. Then I'd fling all of the corpses in Stromboli and pitch myself in aftwards. BTW, I'm wondering how any of youn could carry a tank in your arms, let alone a battleship.

You could always go with the fixed path view of time:
Whatever you try to do to change history is doomed to fail, as your actions merely help along the events that have already occured.

	08-10-2002 02:20									#78
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Hmm, I'd go back to Uni to get my medical degree. Then, in an act of unspeakable blasphemy I'd claim I was Jesus Christ, come to liberate mankind. I'd heal the sick and order the pope about. Form another crusade to liberate the Holy Land, kick turkish butt, then ascend heaven...

fair?

	08-10-2002 02:39									#79
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I'd take a list of where each of you was going, then show up and kill you and hide your body before you could do any damage to history. Then I'd fling all of the corpses in Stromboli and pitch myself in aftwards. BTW, I'm wondering how any of youn could carry a tank in your arms, let alone a battleship.

No when he went to "tank with supplies" I upped the ante to something really able to control the world for the time to come.

Maybe that would be the latest US secret instant-inflattable nuclear battleship project where you have all the ingredients for a full battleship with the crew in the special carry pack, that you only add some ORMUS white gold dust , leave it on overnight in the deep water and when you come back you have the whole thing floating.

And than you go around, come to Venice and say listen to me or else

However being a Croat I would probably choose the center of the world to be Dubrovnik, and sink pesky Venetians anyway

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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Nuke Baghdad?? You dont need to go back anywhere. Just wait a couple more weeks.... (yes in 1400 Bagdad was considered the most advanced city in the world)

Note: Not so. Venice was considered the best city in the world in 1400, by Europeans. Muslims happened to agree.

The claim was true in 1000, but by 1400, Europe was leaps and bounds ahead of the muslim world.

	08-10-2002 05:39									#81
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I wouldn't want to go back in time - no internet.

	08-10-2002 06:01									#82
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger A tank and supplies for it. I could take over in the space of a few weeks

Watch out for spearmen!!!!!!

	08-10-2002 06:08									#83
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First I'd take a way to come back.

I'd take medicine, science, math and medical texts. I'd give those to somebody from that era that could possibly understand them. Or several such people.

I'd do a little partying with the maidens, steal a bunch of things and press the way back button to the present.

Then I'd see what had changed.