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Vesayen is offline Vesayen
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Heres a wierd hypothetical I was thinking about, its a serious question though, so answer it as such.

Your about to go back in time to say the year 1400 AD, somewhere in europe(you can change the location if you want), you can only bring back with you the clothes on your back, and what you can easily carry in both hands.

What do you bring with you?

What do you do?

Knowing this forum, its knowledge/opinions of politics history and science, I think the responses will be interesting to say the least.


Edit: I thought it was obvious but its not . What would you do/bring to allow yourself to rise to a position of power?

Vesayen is offline Vesayen
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By the way just curious, who else here has thought about this before lol?

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I'd take a submachine gun and plenty of ammo, then become . I'd join the cossacks and stay away from feudal states.

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What do you bring with you?


gun

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What do you do?


kill christopher columbus, you know, the curious bastard

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I was going to post that I'd catch a ride with Columbus and stake out some land in the States.

I guess I'll go with look for Joan of Arc.

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I would take back as much Viagra as I could carry. It would be more valuable than gold and would promote love, not war.

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I'd take some movies and a solar powered television (you msut be able to get one of those small ones solar powered...) and become a famous sooth sayer and magician. (or an infamous sorcerer and burned at the stake...)

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I'd bring a laptop, and if it exists, a solar-powered charger. On the laptop would be every great piece of literature, including important science essays (relativity, quantom, and the like). Shakespeare didn't write R&J, I did

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Well, I'll answer this seriously...

I would take two huge bags full of things to both hands. The following would be inside:
Machine-gun with much ammo (because people already used to change metal forms at a time, I think someone would make me more ammo if needed)
Gunpowder, some blueprints of cannons - would try to build ones
Geological maps of locations from current world
Some food and drink to use until I'll found a shelter
Many pictures from current days
A laptop and lots of batteries
Probably many blueprints of hydroplants - I doubt I would be able to build one, but with the help of people - probably.
Obviously many science books about creation/working of now "simple" things like pistol, lightbulb, etc.

I'd join Lithuanian Great Duchy with a hope of becoming a general and probably conquering many lands.

Vesayen is offline Vesayen
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I'd bring a laptop, and if it exists, a solar-powered charger. On the laptop would be every great piece of literature, including important science essays (relativity, quantom, and the like). Shakespeare didn't write R&J, I did


I was going to say as many technical manuals in engineering, mechanics and chemistry as I could carry, but thats a MUCH better idea

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what good would a television do you?

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What I'd seriously do, though, is just go to peru/inca empire and not take much of anything, I'd just like to see the incan empire at it's height. (hrm.... but I wish I knew the language...)

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I'd bring paper and a pencil, and write a breif history of the world from 1400-2000, and go down in history as a great prophet

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what good would a television do you?

It'd entertain people, and maybe get me burned at the stake.

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what shows ya gonna watch, dear?

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Seinfeudal? All in the Monarchy?

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I'd bring a laptop, and if it exists, a solar-powered charger.


http://www.cetsolar.com/notepower20.htm

Best idea, and they do exist. You could probably carry a few more things as well.

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He said he'd take along some movies as well.

Vesayen is offline Vesayen
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What I would do.........

Bring a laptop and a solar charger for it, you could easily fill a lap top with enough info for most of our modern technology, how to build it etc.........120 gigs and more is possible to fit into a laptop, and if its just word documents, you could fit millions of them........

The laptop would also hold the entire history of the world(from before then and after).


I'd take a semi automatic weapon, a sniper rifle. I'd go in full bullet proof, armor piercing round resistant body armor.

I'd go to portugal, fill the king in on who I am etc...and offer to take over the world, and cut him in on it with his help.

(Pick Portugal because it had a huge fleet, the best explorers in the world, and also scientifcally advanced compared to its european neighbors)

We'd impliment stolanistic 5 year programs to bring portugal technolgocically up to where we are today, I think a semi automatic and a sniper rifle taking out a 100 people would be enough to convince the king.

Conquer my way up the western coast of europe, hop to England. Now the heavy duty manufacturing starts. England has more natural metals then any other western European country. Before we'd just be using firearms which were more advanced then the 1400's, but nothing like what we have today. With the excess of metal that could be gotten from britain we'd start making heavy duty armored vehicles, tanks etc...also start working on modern day rifles.

Sweep east, taking the middle east(oil).

All these conquests so far would be pretty easy, most would be surrenders, as when the enemy can shoot 10x as far as you, and 100x more acuratley you really cant fight them.

Expand the armored divisions, roll over the rest of europe, eurasia and russia.

When I get to Africa and Aisa the casualties would increase alot, they'd proboally resist a hell of alot more then the europeans/middle eastern people.

Hop over to America, help the tribes which made up the irquio(sp?) nation take over the hemisphere and set them up to govern it for us.

On every step on the conquest I'd give the conquered land medicines, agriculture and sanitation techniques and other technologies to make them WANT to be in my empire.

Some ancient empire builders did their best to make their new vassals actually like them, to ensure their loyalty. Antibotics and refrigeration would go a long way to help.

I figure I could have the entire world conquered in 40 years or so.

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I'd bring a crate full of condoms, and **** all the hookers without getting any diseases.

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don't you think they'd look at you a bit funny when you gloved up?

Aeson - well then he'd need a solar powered VCR as well

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don't you think they'd look at you a bit funny when you gloved up?

Aeson - well then he'd need a solar powered VCR as well


Some TVs have VCRs built into them, so

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you know if you take with you all that way out stuff
they would just burn you at the stake thinking you a witch or wizard.
folks back in that time were very supersitious.

i would just take some gold and silver
enough to make me wealthy during that time..


but to be honest im not sure i would even go......

a woman was only a thing to own .
a wealthy woman alone would be something
to take and try to own.......
hummm ...well maybe for a little while...
as long as i could have someone like
Antonio Banderas pursuing me

and i could come back any time i wanted

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That's why I'd go to Lithuanian Great Duchy - we were pagan at a time, so, no inquisition/which burnings. And Wizards were respected much.

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There are also portable DVD players with built in screens as well. Of course having a laptop with a DVD drive would be a more useful option.

I don't think even with modern knowlege that taking over the world would be a possibility in a lifetime. To get to the point where manufacture of modern equipment is possible would take a long time, even knowing exactly what you were doing and with the unquestioned support of a nation. A better idea (for personal gain) would be to set yourself up as some sort of God (playing off a given culture's mythology), and then just reap the rewards of having a nation worship you. Who would choose to spend the next 40 years upgrading manufacturing processes and out on the warpath when they could be pampered and spoiled to their hearts content with much less work.

A more selfless goal could be achieved by just spreading your knowlege and expertise freely. This would probably lead to more recognition than through warfare even. You'd be every author and every scientist... instead of a slightly more successful Alexander.

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I would take notes of this thread and go few years earlier than you guys. Then I could plan the major asskicking and remove the threat of you coming into my way All i need is a guns and ammo and traps since I can loot all your stuff.

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cd-player and small speakers and batteries. I'd make a cd with deep voice saying I was sent by God to rule the continent, and I'd get all the chicks I wanted.

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What would I do? I'd throw myself back!

Oh - you mean what would I BRING?
In that case, I'd bring blueprints for various scientific objects.

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Heres a wierd hypothetical I was thinking about, its a serious question though, so answer it as such.

Your about to go back in time to say the year 1400 AD, somewhere in europe(you can change the location if you want), you can only bring back with you the clothes on your back, and what you can easily carry in both hands.

What do you bring with you?



Rambo gear. and the blueprints to build more of them, on a laptop, with the entire current internet stored on the HD. a solar powered battery charger.

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What do you do?



start my own kingdom (preferibly in the Americas) with my magical boomsticks. Prepare my minions for the oncomming armies, and send Europa packing.

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Knowing this forum, its knowledge/opinions of politics history and science, I think the responses will be interesting to say the least.


Edit: I thought it was obvious but its not . What would you do/bring to allow yourself to rise to a position of power?

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I'd bring a crate full of condoms, and **** all the hookers without getting any diseases.


You'd probably catch smallpox anyway...

 
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