11-10-2002 18:27									#1
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Put them here and make them good.

The next chat will be on saturday if everything is ready. 1900 GMT

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	11-10-2002 19:54									#2
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The CP Orders are FINALIZED!!!!

General stuff:
The orders are based on changing to Republic at the end of Turn 0. All Rushes MUST be done before we decend into Anarchy.
Inthe Orders, WF refers to Work force allocation/placement. See this image:

For further explanation on this, see this post.

All Rushes are listed in the order of priority! Please do them as I have them listed.

If during the turnchat, any workers finish tasks that would benifit Production, Trade or Food (in that order of priority, with corruption/waste in mind) increase in a city (cleared jungle, mine or road built, etc.), please change WF allocation to fit the situation. Please, also keep in mind, that some cities (Uber Island mostly) are having to maintain a delicate balance between growth & time of build completions. We will be rushing things somewhat, but Some items I don't want to have to rush too soon (because of impending Disorder because a city grew too fast).

Pre Turn Zero: Initiated build queues and changed production & Workforce allocations. The save and list of changes are here.

Turn 0 (530 AD)
New York - Rush Temple for 116 Lytons
Boom Town - Rush Worker for 24 Lytons
Seeburg - Rush Courthouse for 8 Lytons

If the MoE approves, Aggie already has (these are highly recommended):
Gheingistown - Rush Pikeman for 24 Lytons
Apolyton - Rush WC for 52 Lytons
[EDIT] Reddawg just approved these. All Rushed Have been approved.

At this point, because of the effects of Anarchy, some city growths might be off by a turn or two, so I'll have the first anticipated time and new size, it will be up to the Prez to check and adjust for a possible change. I'll try to be as accurate as possible.

Turn 1 (540AD)
New York - Change WF to 1-4-8 + 1 Ent
Thebes - Change WF to 5.
Boom Town - WF to 6-8.
Seeburg - WF to 6-8-18-20.
If Bacteria grows to size 2, change WF to 3-8.
If Tarsus grows to size 4, change WF to 2-6-7-8.
If Oak Ridge grows to size 3, change WF to 4-5-14.

Rush settler in Chartres for 40 Lytons. Change the WF 15-17 at the same time. When the new city is built next turn, have it producing Temple.


Turn 2 (550 AD)
If Gaia grows to size 9, change WF to 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-11 + 1 Ent.
If Port Rouge grows to size 6, change WF to 1-5-6-7-18-19. It will have Zero growth, but is at max size now, so is no bother.
If Seeburg grows to size 5, change WF to 3-6-8-18-20.

BFM's borders expand, WF to 9-15.

Rush worker in AGC for 24 Lytons.
Rush Temple in Antioch for 88 Lytons.
Rush Pikeman in Ubergorsk for 28 Lytons. If not enough funds to Rush this, do not rush the next turn!



Turn 3 (560 AD)
If Muncie grows to size 4, change WF to 2-3-4-5.
If Apolyton grows to Size 6, change WF to 1-2-6-7-13-15.
If Loveshack grows to size 4, change WF to 3-4-7-10. There will be Zero growth until some more Jungle is cleared.
If Antioch grows to size 2, change WF to 2-8.

AGC's borders expand. WF to 5. If it Grows back to size 2, WF to 2-5.
Port of Malignance Borders expand, WF to 1-10-17-18.
Boom Towns Borders expand, WF to 6-8.
Tarsus borders expand, WF to 6-7-13-16.
Termina borders expand, WF to 2-3-8-11-12-19.

Rush Pike in Oakridge for 8 Lytons.

Turn 4 (570 AD)
If Susa grows to size 3, change WF to 1-6-8.
If Willsbury grows to size 6, change WF to 1-2-3-5-6-8.
If Port of Malignance grows to size 5, change WF to 1-5-10-17-18.

Rush Temple in Thebes for about 80 lytons.
Rush Temple in Bacteria for about 52 Lytons.
Rush Aquaduct in Tessagrad for about 48 Lytons.


E_T


[EDIT] slowly as my brain turns to mush. I am done!!!!

Last edited by E_T on 12-10-2002 at 22:35

	12-10-2002 00:18									#3
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This spot reserved for the SMC order.
General orders
1. Knights/WC go in such a way so we have 5east/5Central/5West, once this is done send the next 5 wc to chiquita(that will be the homebase of the west central Rapid Reaction force). when based the forces will be so labeled
In arbela 5knights form East Rapid Reaction Force,ERRF
In New york 4knights 1wc form ECRRF
In Macross 5 wc for WRRF
In chiquita 5wc(to be built) form WCRRF
All catpults got Gaia, since catpults move slowly we will put them in a central location.
Ultimately all wc(11) will need to be upgraded so please plan accordingly. I request that this be done within 20 turns.
The set up is this 5 knight on the sides and 10 in the middle, this way they can quickly move to support in case of an attack.
As we get nearer our next war I will redisitribute the forces as necessary.

2.Pikes that are built, are to stay where they are if no pike in city. If pike already there move to cities in this order.
1. Seeberg
2. City to be founded with settler between wash/Boston
3. Chiquita
4. Delmonte

3. Most Wc/Knights are on goto, when they get to there destination fortify
Specific orders to be forth coming

530 AD(Turn 0)
Knights e of loveshack goto Arbela
Wc in BHQ goto Macross
Pike s of Opiadom goto Opiadom and Fortify
Galley moves ne,se,sw

540 AD(Turn 1)
Galley e,s,w

550 AD(Turn 2)
Galley se,se,w
New Pike in Ghengis town Fortifies

560 AD(Turn 3)
New Pike in Uber Goto Seeberg
Galley se,s,sw

570 AD(Turn 4)
New Pike in Oak Ridge fortifies
Galley se,s,s

580 Ad (Turn 5)
Galley e,se,w

Aggie

Last edited by Aggie on 12-10-2002 at 08:37

	12-10-2002 01:20									#4
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E_T has asked to do the orders for this weekend so he can see what being CP is like. I have obliged as I am currently swamped in RL and would have to do them about 2am the night before the action....

Hope all worked well with Zeit subbing for me last time. If anything is needed, please feel free to contact. Thanks.

GK

	12-10-2002 03:03									#5
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(These orders are a work in progress. They are not final)

Specific Orders:

THIS TURN 530:
none

540
550
560
This turn our dyes + 10gpt to Rome for Ivory deal will run out. Renegotiate the deal whereby we sell trade dyes for ivory. Pay gpt if necessary.

On this turn the Babylonian Dye deal also runs out. Renegotiate the deal with them for the best price.

570


General Orders:

Lux Trading:
Sell dyes to Aztecs if they ever get their act together and link up.

Sell dyes to Persia if they ever offer a price > 20g.

Tech Trades:
Check on the Aztecs, France, and Babylon occasionally to see if they have any techs to trade with us. Currently we have techs they do not. If they aquire a tech we do not have, trade with them.

Tech aquisition priority = Astronomy, Gunpowder, Banking, Navigation.

Buy any tech if the price is < 500g

Other Trades
Do not trade our World or Territory Maps until the final settlement sites are secure on Uber Isle.

Should our world map be traded during any turn, we need to sell it to as many nations as will pay, for max profit.

Treaties:
none at this time

Do not sign any ROPs or alliances.

Demands: (Give in only if demand is semi-reasonable)
E. Give in: Rome.
F. Refuse: Greece, England, Persia, Germany, France, Aztecs, America, Russia, Babylon, Iroquois.


All things left unstated in turnthreads/chats are for Presidential or Public decision. All things specified must be followed unless surprise events have made the orders illogical, harmful, or inappropriate. In that situation the President should end turnthread/chat if any major decision needs to be taken and no representative from the Ministry is present to make the decision. If only a minor decision, the President may use his discretion to change the orders so that they are logical, beneficial, and appropriate.

--Togas.

Last edited by Togas on 12-10-2002 at 23:13

	12-10-2002 06:07									#6
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Still alot of orders needed.

I don't want to have to rely on my magic 8 ball to make decisions again.

	12-10-2002 08:53									#7
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Opd the magic eight ball is how I make most of my decisions and of course my magic coin.
Aggie

	12-10-2002 11:19									#8
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Orders for Public Works



Here are the orders for public works for 530 AD. I think I
nailed everyone, but down the line there might be some missing orders for
certain workers. I don't want to play ahead to find out! If there are any
workers missing, please go ahead and just make them clear any jungle available.





530 AD

• Seeburg: Worker stack NW waiting for orders, Irrigate (should
  be completed immediately) then build road, will also be completed immediately.
• Port of Malignance: Workers N waiting for orders. Move SE, clear jungle.


• Geofront: Worker N waiting for orders, move S, SE


• Willsbury: Workers W waiting for orders. Move SE, clear jungle.


• Muncie: Workers waiting for orders. Move SE, S, S (onto Incense).


• Apolyton: Worker N, move N, NW, NW (join worker stack)


• Boom Town: Worker SW,  build road.


• Port Rogue: Worker SW, build road.
  
  

Last edited by WhiteBandit on 12-10-2002 at 21:29

	12-10-2002 15:32									#9
	New save that Incorperates Build Queues Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I have gotten Permission from OPD to implement build queues and make some production & workforce changes to the save. I have NOT moved any units, rushed any Improvements, spent money in any way or done anything that will change the random seed.

I didn't have the time to pretty this up. GRW means the number of turns (Pre-Anarchy/Republic) ontil the city Grows. EXP is the number of turns before the culture borders expand. What is being built is listed as a full nume or abbeviation with the number of sheilds left to build; sheilds per turn produced & number of turns left to build in the parenthasise. Example: Market (66L, 6/T, 11T0 means that the city is building a marketplace, it has 55 sheilds left to build, the city is producing 6 sheilds per turn & it has 11 turns left to build. Working (or WF for WorkForce) is the city tiles that are being worked and any specialist by type & number. Example WF 1-8 + 1Tax + 1 Ent means that tiles 1 & 8 are being worked with 1 taxman and 1 entertainer present. See this post for more information and examples. Queue is exactly that, the next 4 builds for that city in order from left to right. And lastly, any changes that I made from the original save.

Here are the changes:

Del Monte - GRW 26; Market (66L, 6/T. 11T) > Working 3-4-7-8-14-15-19 > Queue Pike-Lib-Wrk-Cath
Apolyton - GRW 3; WC (13L, 7/T, 2T) > Working 1-2-6-13-15 > Queue Mkt-Knt-Cath-Knt Changed WF
Banana HQ - GRW Zero, Market (100L, 5/T, 20T) > Working 1-2-5-6-7-8 > Queue WC-Lib-Pike-Cath Changed from WC to Market, Changed Workforce.
Contaginon - GRW 6, EXP 4, Courthouse (80L, 1/T, 80T) > WF 2-4-5-7-8 > Queue Cath-Lib-Wrk-Mkt Changed from Lib to Court, Changed WF
Gaia - GRW 2, Market (68L, 4/T, 17T) > WF 2-3-4-5-7-8-10 + 1Tax > Queue WC-Lib-Wrk-Court Changed WF
Port Rouge - GRW 2, Market (95L, 5/T, 19T) > WF 1-5-6-7-19 > Queue Aqu-Cath-Pike-Court Changed from Pike to Market
Termina - GRW Zero (limit), EXP 2, Market (51L, 8/T, 7T) > WF 2-3-8-11-12-19 > Queue Wrk-Lib-Wrk-Aqu Changed WF
Susa - GRW 4, Temple (24L, 1/T, 18T) > WF 6-8 > Queue Court-Harb-Lib-Mark Changed from Pike to Tem,
Arbela - GRW 5 (limit), Court (75L, 2/T, 38T), > WF 1-2-3-5-7-16 > Queue Lib-Aqu-Wrk-Mrk Changed from Lib to Court
Timeline - GRW 9, Market (51L, 7/T, 8T) > WF 1-2-3-4-5-6-20 > Queue Wrk-Uni-Knt-Court
Tessagrad - GRW Zero (limit), Aquaduct (36L, 8/T, 5T) > WF 1-4-5-6-15-17 > Queue Galley-Mkt-Galley-Lib
Antiock - GRW 3, Temple (23L, 1/T, 23T) > WF 6 > Queue Court-Wall-Lib-Mrk Changed from Knt to Tem
Tarsus - GRW 1, EXP 2, Court (78L, 1/T, 78T) > WF 2-6-7 > Queue Lib-Mrk-Harbor-Cath Changed from Cath to Court, Changed WF
Macross City - GRW 5, EXP 1, Court (39L, 5/T, 8T) > WF 1-2-3-4-6-7-8-16-17 + 1Sci > Queue Wrk-Mrk-Wrk-Lib
Willsbury - GRW 4, EXP 4, Court (80L, 1/T, 80T) > WF 1-2-5-6-8 > Queue Wrk- Mrk-Wrk-Lib Changed from Cath to Court
Chartres - SPECIAL, MOVING South, Stlr (10L, 4/T, 3T) > WF 4-8 > NO QUEUE
Bacteria - GRW 1, Temple (16L, 1/T, 16T) > WF 12 > Queue Court-lib-mrk-Harbor Changed Pike to Tem
Seeburg - GRW 2, Court (2L, 2/T, 1T) > WF 3-6-10-20 > Queue Lib-Mrk-Cath-WC Changed WF
Ubergorsk - GRW 7, Pike (11L, 4/T, 3T) > WF 3-8-12-20 > Queue Mrk-WC-Lib-WC
Jerusalem - GRW 5, Cath (52L, 3/T, 18T) > WF 1-2-8-19 > Queue Mrk-Lib-Court-WC Changed Court to Cath
Geofront - GRW 18, Court (78L, 1/T, 78T) > WF 1-11 > Queue Lib-Mrk-Wrk-Cath Changed Wrk to Court
Napoleton - GRW 9, Wrk (9L, 1/T, 9T) > WF 6-7-9-17 > Queue Court-Lib-Wrk-Mrk
Loveshack - GRW 3, EXP 7, Harbor (64L, 2/T, 33T) > WF 3-7-10 > Queue Wrk-Lib-Wrk-Mrk
Thebes - GRW 3, Temple (23L, 1/T, 23T) > WF 2 > Queue Barr-Wrk-Spear-Wrk
Chiquita - GRW Zero (limit), Cathedral (70L, 5/T, 14T) > WF 4-5-6-12-13-14 > Queue Wrk-Wall-Wrk-Lib
New York - GRW Zero, Temple (29L, 1/T, 29T) > WF 1-8 + 1Taz + 1 Ent > Queue Wrk-Court-Wrk-Lib Changed WF
Another Glorious City - GRW 3, EXP 2, Wrk (10L, 4/T, 3T) > WF 2-5 > Queue Harbor-Wrk-Barr-Wrk
Opiadom - GRW 9, Lib (65L, 1/T. 65T) > WF 3-4-8 > Queue Mrk-Wall-Court-Wrk Changed WF
Oak Ridge - GRW 1, Pike (4L, 1/T, 4T) > WF 4-5 > Queue Tem-Mrk-Lib-Court
BFM - GRW Zero, EXP 1, Gran (57L, 1/T, 57T) > WF 2-8 > Queue Wrk-Court-Wrk-Barr Changed Harbor to Granary
Port of Malignance - GRW 4, EXP 2, Market (95L, 3/T, 32T) > WF 1-10-17-18 > Queue Lib-Court-Harbor-Cath
Ghengistown - GRW 4, Pike (6L, 3/T, 2T) > WF 5-6 > Queue Tem-Mrk-Lib-WC
Boom Town - GRW 5, EXP 2, Wrk (6L, 1/T, 6T) > WF 2-8 + 1Tax > Queue Stlr-Gran-Wrk-Court Changed WF
City on a Hill - GRW 9, Temple (19L, 1/T, 19T) > WF 2-5 > Queue Lib-Mrk-Court-Wrk
Site E - GRW 10, EXP 4, Wrk (10L, 1/T, 10T) > WF 6-7 > Queue Gran-Wrk-Court-Wrk Changed WF
Hole in Wall - GRW 5, EXP 4, Wrk (10L, 1/T, 10T) > WF 3-7 > Queue Spear-Wrk-Court-Cath Changed Cath to Wrk
Muncie - GRW 3, Temple (14L, 1/T, 14T) > WF 2-3-5 > Queue Court-Lib-Pike-Wall(placer for something else) Changed Pike to Temple, Changed WF
Here It Is - GRW 20, Market (58L, 6/T, 10 T) > WF 1-2-3-4-9-11-20 + 1Tax > Queue Wrk-Lib-Wrk-Cath Changed WF


The save is attached. The long list of changes will be coming in an edit that I'm still working on (all night at that).

E_T

Attachment: banana of the egyptians,cp,530 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 9 time(s).

Last edited by E_T on 12-10-2002 at 16:14

	12-10-2002 15:58									#10
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A welcome change!
OPD, I have time this weekend so I can format the orders into a president-friendly list if you'd just ask.

	12-10-2002 22:29									#11
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Good job, Et, Along time ago I cam e up with this idea, each minister does his thing and then sends save to the next. Leaving the big debatebale decisions to the Prez.
Aggie

	12-10-2002 23:40									#12
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Orders for this turnchat:
1. Rush temple, as requested by the CP, for 116 gold (I don't know where this is at).
2. Rush worker, as requested by the CP, for 24 gold (I don't know where this is at).
3. Rush pikeman, as requested by both the CP and the SMC, for 24 gold, in Ghengistown.
4. Rush war chariot, as requested by both the CP and the SMC, for 52 gold, in Apolyton.

THE BUDGET POSTED HERE: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=64137 still applies!!!
(Note that the above rush requests total more than the allotted to the CP and the SMC, so some of the emergency funds ( 33 gold, to be exact) MUST BE AUTHORIZED BY AN EXECUTIVE!!!

	15-10-2002 00:59									#13
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Ministry of Economy orders:

1. Regarding the joint Foreign Ministry/ City Planner plan:
Due to the necessity of this plan, which will obtain for us two techs, and at a much lower cost than if we simply bought them, the full amount will be awarded in the amount of 900 gold, to be taken from direct treasury funds or through per/turn deals, as needed.

2. Regarding the SMC plan:
Due to the promptness of the plan, and the desire to maintain our military despite peace time, the full amount is to be awarded in the amount of exactly 500 gold for the upgrading of 5 war chariots, to be taken straight out of the treasury.

3. Regarding the City Planner plan:
Due to the fact that the above plan #1 has been given to me as a join plan along with the Foreign Minister, and the fact that this request came last, it is impossible to meet the demands at this time. The 316 gold requested for various rushes during this turnchat will have to rollover to a later date.