15-10-2002 23:23									#91
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Certainly not the best, but it meets my basic computer needs: internet and writing. Civ2 runs smoothly on it as well. Civ3 don't though

	15-10-2002 23:47									#92
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Full specs for mine

Athlon XP 2200+ Not quite 2ghz but I got it on the cheap, so it doesn't matter.

Geforce4 ti4200, 128mb. Gainward Golden Sample is the best! I got it for free anyway; (review copy thats been hanging around for ages, one of the bonuses of freelancing for magazines).

256mbs of pc2700 DDR Ram (not the best, but ram is getting expensive again).

Audigy Platnium, cheaper than getting a hi-fi and just as good.

Ok, no doubt Asher will pick me up on the parts I got, but all I know is that at the moment I'm running two games of Europa Universalis 2, as well as winamp, IE and Empire Earth, without any slowdown.

	15-10-2002 23:58									#93
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Woot three RTS games and still time to post ...

Heil SUPERMAN on a Supercomputer

	16-10-2002 00:07									#94
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Show-off.

	16-10-2002 00:14									#95
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I'm not playing them, I'm helping make a scenario for EU2...
which reminds me I've got the editor running..

	16-10-2002 00:18									#96
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ah well I withdraw the "SUPERMAN" title than

	16-10-2002 01:14									#97
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Just bought 1.8aGH Celeron, because they are cheaper.
Old computer 500mH, still older computer use to be 200mH with upgrade processor, but it burned up or something, so stuck with the original AMD suppose to be 166mH, think its a 133mH, (bought used) but actually runs at 114mH. But its fine for games like old dos X-COM's and Ages of Empires which only require a 90mH computer in the first place. (or less in the case of X-COM original game - UFOefense).

Had to fix the fan on the old old computer, took around 8 hours to put Windows 98SE on it, sure is slow.

	16-10-2002 01:56									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Evil Knevil Full specs for mine Athlon XP 2200+ Not quite 2ghz but I got it on the cheap, so it doesn't matter. Geforce4 ti4200, 128mb. Gainward Golden Sample is the best! I got it for free anyway; (review copy thats been hanging around for ages, one of the bonuses of freelancing for magazines). 256mbs of pc2700 DDR Ram (not the best, but ram is getting expensive again). Audigy Platnium, cheaper than getting a hi-fi and just as good. Ok, no doubt Asher will pick me up on the parts I got, but all I know is that at the moment I'm running two games of Europa Universalis 2, as well as winamp, IE and Empire Earth, without any slowdown.

I actually think you did a very good job building that system. Very balanced and very good value for your money.

	16-10-2002 02:17									#99
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You're having a laugh right? Not even the teeniest amount of criticism?

	16-10-2002 02:18									#100
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Nope, looks good to me. It's actually extremely similar to my gaming rig.

	16-10-2002 02:41									#101
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2.8 GHz
1 GB of RAM

	16-10-2002 11:29									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Nope, looks good to me. It's actually extremely similar to my gaming rig.

Also Evil's comp is exactly like my friends who got 12k+ in 3dmark21se, so I think you should too Asher. But I dunno what mobo he has. You do have 40.xx dets right?

	16-10-2002 11:30									#103
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I benched that on 40.41, it's on 40.72 now.

Did your friend overclock anything? Video/systembus/proc/memory?

My results are above average from what I've seen on the ORB.

	16-10-2002 11:56									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I benched that on 40.41, it's on 40.72 now. Did your friend overclock anything? Video/systembus/proc/memory? My results are above average from what I've seen on the ORB.

I think most of the new results will be above average because the history with older dets. He had the ti4200 around 300/600.
I think he had the 2200+ @ 166xSomething=2200+. I have heard the mark likes fsb but you have ti4600 so that evens it out I guess. I asked some time ago him to run it 133xSomething=2200+ because I was interested in it too. He still hasn't

	16-10-2002 12:00									#105
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After 10K it seems 3DMark is VERY much CPU/memory bound. I overclocked my GF4 Ti4600 to 330 core/730 memory and I only gained like 200 points.

	16-10-2002 12:04									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Asher After 10K it seems 3DMark is VERY much CPU/memory bound. I overclocked my GF4 Ti4600 to 330 core/730 memory and I only gained like 200 points.

Well that could be it. When I oc my card from 250/513 (msi defaults) to 300/600 I get much more than 200 pts. And my high is 10300.

	16-10-2002 15:40									#107
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I've found the same as Asher, overclocking my Golden Sample only gave me a 350 point bonus. I'm getting just under 12k with out o/c 12.2K at the edge of the safety limit.

Asher, if you want to try new equipment and get stuff cheap, like we, I recomment writing for a PC magazine, you seem to be a good enough writer....

	16-10-2002 19:39									#108
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I got my stuff for dirt cheap back when I worked for a high end computer shop in the summer.

I don't think many PC Magazines are interested in a 19 year old kid's writing, especially when they've never taken a journalism course in their life.