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of my princess Anastasia!
Mar 1999
time: 15:23
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Originally posted by Ned
To everyone else in Australia, who do not share Morbius’ world view on right and wrong or good and evil, I know, if you ask, that the US will stand behind you in its upcoming war against al Qaida in Indonesia. I hope that the government of Indonesia will cooperate. If they don’t, they should fall like the Taliban. |
Oh, wouldn't that be wonderful  Soeharto was a complete bastard, Wahid was senile, and Megawati is a *****, but could you imagine an Islamic fundamentalist (i.e. wacko) government in Indonesia?  
Al Qaeda is beyond reasoning with, as the core of their hatred of everyone else is due to no more than everyone else being different. They should all be hunted down and shot. The problem is in limiting such actions to those responsible, as when innocents get caught in the witchhunt, the hatred expands beyond the fanatics to more moderate peoples. This is why any action must be specific, but of course the real problem is finding those responsible. That said, an all-out attack on Iraq is likely to give reason to those who otherwise have none.
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:23
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Lung, there will be no war in Iraq if Saddam complies with the UN. If he fails to comply, the UN will authorize the use of force - this means the whole world will have declared war on Iraq, not just the US.
The war on Iraq, if it comes, is not about fundamentalist Islam. It is about a ruthless dictator who has conducted aggressive war and who had defied the UN.
When the war is concluded, a moderate coalition Muslim government will emerge in Iraq. This government will be decidedly pro-West, and give the lie to those Muslims who seek to analogize the attack to some Western anti-Islam crusade.
Because of it losses, Australia deserves to lead the attack on al Qaida in Indonesia. As I said, the United States and probably the UK will support you.
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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:23
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Originally posted by Frogger
That's an interesting crystal ball you've got there. |
Just my prediction on what will happen. My reasoning is as follows:
France, China and Russia know that if they do not support a new, "tough," resolution, the United States will declare war on Iraq without the UN. This will have been the second time this has happend in the last three years - first Kosovo and then Iraq. Whether the UN SC will have any credibilty after that is doubtful. It can issue resolutions to anyone and everyone without effect because when push comes to shove, the UN simply will not authorize force. Thus, the three have no real choice but to enforce the sanctions in a meaningful way.
This brings us to Saddam. Will he comply or will he defy?
I for one, predict he will comply, or at least, appear to comply. He is like a cat. He always seems to land on his feet despite being in the most dire predicaments.
But if he defies the UN, the UN will then authorize force. This seems a forgone conclusion once the first resolution concerning a new inspection regime is passed.
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Dr Strangelove
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The freaky thing is that the latest eyewitness of the Washington are sniper describes him as middle eastern.
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Alexander's Horse
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Panmunjon, hands up!
Jan 1970
time: 15:23
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War-like injuries use up skin-graft stocks
By Ruth Pollard, Health Writer
October 16 2002
The "war-like" injuries suffered in the Bali bombings have exhausted Australia's supply of bio-engineered skin used to treat badly burned patients.
Peter Haertsch, the director of Concord Hospital's burn injury unit, said two "horribly injured young people" had arrived yesterday. One of them, a young woman from Victoria, had burns to 80 per cent of her body.
"When the first two arrived ... it was evident we were dealing with burn injuries the likes of which we have never seen here before," Dr Haertsch said. "They were the sort of thing you would only see in a war-like situation."
The second patient, a Brisbane man, was operated on yesterday and a third patient with less serious injuries was also treated.
A hospital spokesman said six more people were admitted after arriving on a RAAF Hercules in Sydney last night. Their condition was unknown.
It was obvious the two seriously injured patients had not received medical treatment in "the golden hour" - the first hour after injury, Dr Haertsch said.
During this time "there is a tremendous outpouring of body fluid ... unless they received treatment in that hour the kidneys start to shut down and they go into renal failure", he said.
The two young patients at Concord had experienced blast injuries and "horrible, penetrating wounds" from wood, shrapnel and tin. These wounds were contaminated, and their thermo-regulatory system had shut down.
"I've not seen this combination of injuries - it's something you wouldn't see in civilian life and something I haven't seen in 22 years of burns surgery," Dr Haertsch said.
The Concord team hopes to complete most of the burns surgery by Friday, although for some patients this will go on for weeks.
"Because of the extent of the injuries with at least one of the patients, we will not be able to graft with their own skin," Dr Haertsch said.
Instead, the team will use a revolutionary form of bio-engineered skin, made from neo-natal foreskins, which provides coverage of the wound after the burned skin has been excised.
"We have ordered a significant number of sets - I am told we have exhausted the Australian supply, some of which has also gone to Perth and Adelaide."
They will also use available unburned skin for grafting, and will grow patients' skin in a lab. Dr Haertsch rated the patients' chances of survival as "hopeful".
Of the six people admitted to St George Hospital in Sydney on Monday, a 23-year-old woman from Victoria with serious burns and shrapnel injuries was released yesterday and flown to Melbourne for treatment.
Those remaining in hospital are: a 15-year-old female from NSW; a 23-year male from Queensland; a 22-year-old male, an 18-year-old female and a 23-year-old male from Victoria. A hospital spokeswoman said all were in a satisfactory condition.
A 32-year-old woman from Sydney's southern suburbs is still in Royal North Shore Hospital in a serious but stable condition.
In total, 86 injured people had been airlifted from Bali by last night. Only seven remained in Darwin, with the rest sent on to other capital city hospitals.
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Dr Strangelove
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Why are there still so many missing? Do they think that there are alot of unidentifiable bodies or is there a problem with communications?
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15-10-2002 05:12
I just hope it all works out for the Afghanis in the end 
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