18-10-2002 21:53									#1
	release date moved UP? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

ebgames.com used to say 10/29/02.

then firaxis said "early november".

now, ebgames.com says MONDAY.

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categori...sp?pf_id=222945

	18-10-2002 22:05									#2
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Pretty sure ebgames is wrong. Wouldn't we have heard that it went gold before now if it was going to be in stores by Monday?

	18-10-2002 22:25									#3
	Re: release date moved UP? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote: Originally posted by UberKruX ebgames.com used to say 10/29/02. then firaxis said "early november". now, ebgames.com says MONDAY. http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categori...sp?pf_id=222945

Holy Frijoles!! You're right. EBgames says that it ships 10/21/02!!

It's probably a misprint, but technically that's false advertising. I say: Let's SUE 'EM!

	19-10-2002 05:01									#4
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email i just got:


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	19-10-2002 06:28									#5
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Well, let us know if it ships Monday.

	19-10-2002 09:31									#6
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The release date for PTW has always been pretty ambigious. I wouldn't trust that EB date too much.

	19-10-2002 11:40									#7
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Both Sid and Jeff Morris have said early November in separate interviews; I would trust that to be the earliest date, and until I hear from someone at Firaxis/Infogrames that it has gone gold, I won't even trust the early November date. I have heard that it typically takes a minimum of 2 weeks from gold to market. I would hope the testers are doing what it takes to get a quality product to us.

Personally, I would rather wait a little longer for a quality product than get a buggy one quicker.

	20-10-2002 00:32									#8
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I just pre-ordered it from EB also, and it definitely says 10/21. I doubt that's correct, but who knows.

	20-10-2002 02:20									#9
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To ship on the 21st, they would have to have product in-house now. Infogrames has been very tight lipped on the GOLD status of all their games. So much so that the product has been released before anyone knew it was gold on some titles. Infogrames has shut-off the infomation leaks so well that most gamesites don't even bother making predictions on release dates anymore.

Also, if the game is ready to go and all the beta testing is basically a bug hunt; the packaging and manual can be printed right after beta is done. Then it is a matter of three days from gold to distribution. Any delay from gold to distribution would be due to re-printing the packaging and manual; and this would only be done for a game-killer bug. Since the framework of Civ3 has been used, I doubt any killer bugs would be found.

	20-10-2002 04:18									#10
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I have it on good authority that it takes 2 weeks to get a game from gold master to stores. If it seems like it was less, the company hid the fact that it went gold (a common practice for AAA titles).

	20-10-2002 05:31									#11
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They do that sometimes with music titles to prevent people from getting them off the internet. Also didn't they change FF X from January something to like mid december right before releasing it? I can't remember exaclty but I remember my brother got it before christmas and I remember looking at gamepros december issue or something and seeing it say Q1 2002 or jan 2002 or something.

Last edited by Cidifer on 20-10-2002 at 05:56

	20-10-2002 06:10									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Yes, the release date of some games can be quite fluid, depending on a few circumstances. While I still doubt it'll be shipped as early as the 21st, it wouldn't boggle my mind if it did. Stuff like that happens from time to time (though usually the release date goes backwards, not forwards).

	21-10-2002 03:45									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I called my local EB store, and they said thier computer still says the 30th. I guess we'll see if it shows up Tuesday, but I wouldn't count on it.

	21-10-2002 10:04									#14
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Did Civ 3's release come out earlier than expected? I seem to remember having the date practically circled on the calendar, and then walking into my local EB and finding it there already! *shrugs*

	21-10-2002 10:38									#15
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Well, someone on a thread a few days ago said, he already has the add-on (illegal, for sure) and that means it is finished and gold for some time now. If he didn't lie. But I don't think he did.
Meaning it is quite possible that it will be out today or very soon.


In the US only, that is.

	21-10-2002 17:31									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Todd Hawks Well, someone on a thread a few days ago said, he already has the add-on (illegal, for sure) and that means it is finished and gold for some time now.

That probably was a beta version "leaked" from a beta tester.
I don't want to play any unfinished game, if not may be a free demo from a magazine CD.

So I usually wait for the first patch anyway.

	21-10-2002 18:38									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Just a quick note to say that EB's web site now shows PTW shipping October 29 again, and the Civ 3 GOTY edition shipping today. That was probably the source of the confusion over there.

	21-10-2002 22:52									#18
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Hm. PTW will probably be on shelves here in Brazil only by mid-November.

The bad side: I won't be playing it as soon as some of you.

The good side: I'll escape the first wave of bugs.

	21-10-2002 23:27									#19
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edit: never mind

	22-10-2002 10:14									#20
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quote: That probably was a beta version "leaked" from a beta tester. I don't want to play any unfinished game, if not may be a free demo from a magazine CD.

Possibly. Is/was there an open beta test going on?

	22-10-2002 10:23									#21
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I work at Best Buy and last time I checked the green screens said it would be in the store November 6th. However This was as of months ago, and it still has not showed up on BestBuy.com :s

	22-10-2002 14:38									#22
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: Originally posted by Todd Hawks Possibly. Is/was there an open beta test going on?

There was a closed beta. In addition, most of the magazines and major game websites got a review copy.

	23-10-2002 02:11									#23
	Tired of ads?

So its not yet... bottom line?

	23-10-2002 02:12									#24
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Nope. Like Sid and Jeff said, expect November.

	23-10-2002 15:20									#25
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so any one wants to predict. my guess is 1st Nov and in singpore by 3rd Nov i hope

	23-10-2002 16:54									#26
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If we're doing a pool, put me down for the 29th. It's a Tuesday and for some stupid reason everything ships on a Tuesday.

	24-10-2002 00:01									#27
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I would probably wager on the 29th too. Like Warp said, it's new game Tuesday.

	24-10-2002 03:00									#28
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November 5th.

	24-10-2002 03:44									#29
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Alright, I got the illegal copy of play the world. I'm going to buy it, but for now I'm using this version.

It's not quite finished in my opinion. But if they wanted to they could probably hammer out the remaining bugs pretty easily. There is nothing wrong with the gameplay IMO, it's just a couple of glinches on menu screens.

I bet they could release it within a couple days, but they probly wont.

Nov. 1 is probly my best guess.

	24-10-2002 04:08									#30
	Tired of ads?

What version is it?